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oh i see , www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=163210&page=2looking at this ^^^^ the bottom arm is a fixed geo sort of thing , i wonder if the top arm could be assembled back to front , ,but if it were i would expect the steering to not centre if you let go of the wheel , and i assume it does self centre ? i suppose you could run a lower profile tyre ,but hey , not v 70's looking , a 205/60 might work . fascinating stuff , i must have a closer look at a scim chassis when i am down the scrap yard next ,i wonder if scimitar welded the crossmember on too far forward , or simply made the shell moulding too short . regards robert.
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the bottom arm is a fixed geo sort of thing , i wonder if the top arm could be assembled back to front , ,but if it were i would expect the steering to not centre if you let go of the wheel , and i assume it does self centre ? Ha, I went through all the possibilities of things being back to front, upside down, switched sides etc. None seemed to be. It all checked out. i suppose you could run a lower profile tyre ,but hey , not v 70's looking , a 205/60 might work I changed the tyres fairly recently and now have enough clearance that they no longer rub. I'm happy with the switch to a slightly lower profile tyre, although I did quite like it sat on four great big meats. It came to me with extreme budget tyres. They seemed to be a cheap Chinese hybrid car/van tyre . In some places listed for cars, in others for vans. The ride has improved greatly with the new tyres. i wonder if scimitar welded the crossmember on too far forward , or simply made the shell moulding too short . Something happened, I'm sure, or maybe it was deliberate as a styling thing to give the car more forward aggression or something back in an age where people were less likely to start messing with wheel offset, width and different tyres. For a long time it was suggested my body may have been been taken off and then put back incorrectly. But that can't be the case because there's no evidence of changes to the mounting positions. Others suggested it may have had a smash and had the front rebuilt incorrectly. There is absolutely no evidence of that underneath on the metalwork or the fibreglass. It ended up causing a fair amount of debate and disagreement over many months whenever it came up and in the end I felt a bit overwhelmed by the differences of opinion and decided that if I could resolve the rubbing with a tyre change, that would be sufficient. There are plenty of others with the same wheel position... ... why worry! = )
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exactly . looks like it my simply be a case of B.C.R.D.M syndrome . (BRITISH CAR RANDOM DESIGN MISTAKES) i have a 72 tvr , nuff said !
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Hahahaha yes. Having battled with many of this car's supposedly straight lines and apparently parallel features, I've long since concluded that the body mould was made of polythene and they used a trebuchet to toss in strips of wet fibreglass from the other side of the field on a windy day.
Nothing seems to be a decent line on these.
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and strong sunshine ,so it dried in mid air .
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Smiler
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I'm going to have to look at mine now to see how my front wheels line up. The nose support structure is out of my car so mine may have sagged a little as well.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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This was the NAUGHTY CORNERPhil H
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Mar 29, 2018 10:59:35 GMT
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A GRP Dolly spoiler for your delectation: The angle of dangle does make a lot of difference to both its appearance, fit (they're never perfect but it's amazing a few big bolts, or a heat gun on an original ABS one can do) and effectiveness.
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Mar 29, 2018 13:14:10 GMT
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^ Looks really nice Phil. As for mine. It's pretty tough stuff to cut with a scalpel but I finally got there (by using a fretsaw). and MING'S BEARD!!!! I have concluded, all by myself, that even with a lick of paint (not done yet) and a decal or two (not done yet) it's going to look ruddy stupid. So it will be going in the 'special parts' bin.
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Mar 29, 2018 13:26:20 GMT
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I'm going to have to look at mine now to see how my front wheels line up. The nose support structure is out of my car so mine may have sagged a little as well. This was possibly an initial contributor to my problem. First things I did with this car were to make some new radiator top cowling out of a single sheet of steel for added rigidity. I also had a bent plate at the top of the driver's side suspension turret that spreads the load for the body where it bolts down. So I took that out, hammered it flat, added a piece of support beneath it and stuck it all back on. Those things certainly helped a little bit and reduced the amount of rubbing to an acceptable amount, but they weren't the answer entirely. This support plate. It seemed to help to get it straightened... My home made nose support/radiator cowling... ^ Still looks like this except much dirtier and with shorter bolts the right way around. It's a ruddy PITA to get it in and out.
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Mar 29, 2018 17:55:54 GMT
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ooohh I really like that.....mings beard I mean, not the tvr.. (I actually rather like the tvr)
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Mar 29, 2018 19:24:10 GMT
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I love the TVR. Especially how the body's not quite big enough to stretch over the entire car . And dat zorst .... sad to say, and with due apologies to Herr Imperator @quatermass, I like the beard thing rather less I'd go for the Dolly full-width one were it me
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Mar 29, 2018 20:14:58 GMT
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Wow, Robert, that's a real beauty. I love it.
I'm a bit confused... it's easily done. It looks like a Rover V8... how come there are three exhausts?
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Mar 29, 2018 20:20:08 GMT
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I love the TVR. Especially how the body's not quite big enough to stretch over the entire car . And dat zorst .... sad to say, and with due apologies to Herr Imperator @quatermass, I like the beard thing rather less I'd go for the Dolly full-width one were it me Hey no apologies necessary. Whenever I do anything I do it knowing it's going to be disliked by at least 90% of my esteemed peers. On this occasion I agree that Ming's Beard isn't going to be a good look. BUT... I'm not throwing it away yet. I've had a rather novel idea and it may well end up back on my car for RR Goodwood, but quite different to how it looks now I've chopped it up. I'm going to go ahead and paint it and apply some graphics by hand, and then I'm going add to it. And THEN I'll probably throw it in the bin, but at least I'll have had some fun experimenting.
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Mar 29, 2018 20:20:26 GMT
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QM,
its because there's a big holset hx40 turbo with a 4 inch outlet ,and 3 pipes equalled the area. it used to run a small turbo sequentially with a much bigger holset hx50 , actually ran a best possible 12.32 1/4 in 1993 on treads. but i dragged it out of the shed where it had sat for 6 years ,and decided to try a single smaller one with a spool valve on it.
then i got all medusa y wiv it ,and it got left a bit.
REgards robert
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Mar 29, 2018 20:22:41 GMT
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QM, its because there's a big holset hx40 turbo with a 4 inch outlet ,and 3 pipes equalled the area. Ahhh right. Makes sense. It's a beaut. A proper beast. I love it. Will you be coming to RR Goodwood Robert? I assume the Medusa isn't likely to be ready but I wonder if you might be hooning down in that lovely TVR... *cough* we still have some spaces on the BNMAC club stand *cough cough* Also... edit: Ehhhh, it really feels like it might be time to sell the Scim soon now I've looked at your TVR. I have pangs of desire. I crave a new toy. I want a TVR.
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Smiler
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Mar 29, 2018 21:36:49 GMT
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Love the TVR! More engine than available space in there!
I am in the process of designing and fabricating an alternative frontal support frame with radiator mount. Mine won't have the spare wheel mounted there anymore so I can go for something a bit lighter.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Mar 29, 2018 22:08:33 GMT
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I cant fit a spare wheel there on account of my cowling panel being a flat panel. I had planned to add a wheel holder and have a deflated spare in there but even a deflated spare didn't go.
Edit: PS I remembered something after posting earlier and thought I should correct... Straightening the support mount didn't alter the wheel arch rubbing - my memory isn't too good - what it did seem to correct though was that one of front wheels appeared to be in a different position relative to the arch than the other one. The body was, so it seemed, sitting higher one side because of it. Whether it had been slammed down hard in a pothole at some point and that had forced the strut up to punch into the fiberglass support area, I don't know, but fixing that bent 1/4" chunk of plate and reinforcing the body contact point underneath sure helped even out the wheel-to-arch position.
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Smiler
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Mar 29, 2018 22:26:17 GMT
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The plates on my Scimitar are also curved. I haven't removed them yet but had put it down to corrossion on the underside of the plate.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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