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My personal philosophy is "never look too closely at the chassis"! It's my first, and it was a pure impulse buy with absolutely no prior knowledge of Scims at all aside from test driving a couple over the years. Mine is an unrepentant beater, but that's what I like as it gives me a certain freedom to compromise on perfection and avoid the anxiety of owning a pristine car in an unfriendly world. My chassis seems strong and good, but.... it does have a lot of surface rust, so it will need addressing if it's going to last more than a few years. The trouble, I gather, with scims is the hidden stuff. The roll cage bar encased in the resin of the pillars and roof. The rear hatch being hinged on a single rod that is encased in the roof work and has to be cut and chipped out if it breaks etc etc. The outriggers turn into crispy bacon and you have to take the body off to cry about them (although that sounds like it might be easy to remove). I think it's a car who's vulnerable areas are largely hidden away and impossible to get to without getting the gatling guns out.
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colc
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Is it still raining inside?
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On the flip side though the rollbar seems an easyish fix, the body doesn't visibly rust they are cheap and sound gorgeous. I thinkimayneedtodevelop some fibreglass skills though
For me it was between a mgb gt or the scim. the mg rots everywhere, the scim is more limited
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Last Edit: Oct 3, 2016 22:45:15 GMT by henspeed
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Colc, sadly the rain feature seems to have stopped working. I think I accidentally blocked up some of the delivery apertures when I renovated the windscreen rubber.
Until I am able to get it working again I keep a watering can on the passenger seat and manually wet my legs when it's raining.
That's the trouble with old cars, you fix one thing, and something else packs up.
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Henspeed, yes it us apparently easy to fix the roll bar from what I've been reading. I find I'm averse to any fixes that require me to cut/chop into surfaces though as I know from experience I never manage to finish the job without it looking like a pile of cottage cheese. So I'd rather have a rotten roll bar that I can't see than a fixed one that reminds me daily how curse word I am at fixing things and leaving no trace of my handy work.
I have no doubt I ought to look at fixing mine though.
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Funny, but as I found myself being lured back in to the crazy world of old cars, I too found myself considering Scims and MGBs.
I do love MGBs, but equally, I rarely see one and think WOW, AN MGBGT. I tend to just think... oh, yep, MGBGT.
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It was with great sadness that I un-bookmarked the Humber, but I'm sure this will make a more than adequate, and very different, replacement in my heart. Bookmarked!
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Henspeed, yes it us apparently easy to fix the roll bar from what I've been reading. I find I'm averse to any fixes that require me to cut/chop into surfaces though as I know from experience I never manage to finish the job without it looking like a pile of cottage cheese. So I'd rather have a rotten roll bar that I can't see than a fixed one that reminds me daily how curse word I am at fixing things and leaving no trace of my handy work. I have no doubt I ought to look at fixing mine though. I'm not so sure a rotten rollbar will do the business when the wheels are skyward though, but then again I doubt if a mint one would do a lot either.
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Aye, very true. I will get around to it eventually, but for now it remains above my skill grade.
The car isn't being used for anything other than local trundling to get the parts/materials/tools needed to work on it at the moment. Obviously the wheels can go skyward on even a short journey, but I drive with my door open and one foot on the ground ready to take evasive action should anything bad happen.
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Aye, very true. I will get around to it eventually, but for now it remains above my skill grade. The car isn't being used for anything other than local trundling to get the parts/materials/tools needed to work on it at the moment. Obviously the wheels can go skyward on even a short journey, but I drive with my door open and one foot on the ground ready to take evasive action should anything bad happen. With practice that can be developed into a very effective cornering technique...
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Tim your posts are hilarious. Pile of cottage cheese....priceless!! Hope all goes well with the car.
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the chances of couping it whilst trundling about is somewhat smaller then whilst hooning about.
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Tim your posts are hilarious. Pile of cottage cheese....priceless!! Hope all goes well with the car. Thanks, and thanks. I have VERY little to offer in the way of experience, advice or skill in terms of car stuff. I'm generally scrabbling around in the dark and taking advantage of the expertise of anyone kind enough to offer me guidance... so I try to compensate for any solid contributions by at least making my piffle vaguely entertaining to read where possible. If I make a massive mistake when fettling cars it tends to have a funny side once the pain and the rage has subsided...so I don't mind being the punchline. In the early 90's I did design work for Paul Smith... brochures and ad campaigns for fashion magazines and whatnot. Every Christmas he would do a Christmas gift brochure and to make it different to the uber-stylish seasonal stuff, he'd do something novel or silly. One year he asked for ideas and I knew a bloke who owned two Austin Maxis, so I suggested we produce a fake car brochure. He liked the idea, gave me the items he wanted to feature and a budget, and told me to get on with it. So I designed the brochure and art directed a photoshoot with models and the Maxis to be a deliberately bad pastiche of 1970's British car marketing - it was deliberately awful.The very best bit, by a very long measure, was the copywriting. I had free reign to write whatever amused me and I wrote about 30 pages of fake 70's copy, full of ridiculous bufoonery. That was in about 1994. Being Paul Smith, that brochure got sent out to a lot of people in media and TV and it got a lot of coverage. I really hoped like hell that somebody in media land would pick up on it and get in touch and invite me to write for a car magazine. It never happened sadly, but not long after that, Top Gear took a wild turn away from it's sincere motoring style and became something of a self parody and somewhat ridiculous in it's approach to motoring journalism. So although it's highly unlikely, I do like to entertain the notion that maybe my car brochure sowed a small seed in someone's mind to not take motoring journalism quite as seriously as it was in the 80's. I do realise how ridiculous that sounds, and I know it's a big stretch to imagine I might have been any kind of influence at all, but it keeps me warm at night on those occasions when my air filters are on fire, my carbs are full of sand and there are slinky springs at the bottom of my gear box. (I worked for Top Gear for a few years in the noughties, as a freelance illustrator and image retoucher, and did my very best to persuade them to let me write a column, but they weren't having any of it. Some dreams remain dreams I guess)
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Smiler
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Awesome car! Not that I'm biased either: You will have fun with the boot hinge, I had to do the same to my black SE6A. I reckon that when these were assembled at the factory the shell was lying on its roof when they bonded the tailgate hinge in place. It's a blumin orrible job to do with it the right way up. I can't find the rest of the photos at the moment but needless to say, lots of lying on my back getting showered in dust as I hacked away to release the hinge bar from its resin tomb. Then once fixed, trying to convince it and then the fibreglass matting to defy gravity and stay up in place! Not the neatest job in the world but it has stayed put ever since and all my sins are hidden from view. Enjoy!
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Smiler, sounds like hell! Thanks for the reference shots. Will be useful to have to hand... Although to be honest I'm going to attempt something of a workaround as I just don't fancy my chances doing it the right way.
Basically going to drill in the the metalwork/bar on the inner edge of the hinge hole, and then pack the big gap on the outer side of the hinge hole with something that will no move... Fitted with a short bar that I can wedge into the drilled hole on the other side, and add an additional plate to stop it falling out.
I haven't even got as far as properly scoping that out yet. The hatch remains locked and out of action until I do as I suspect the other hinge will also break if I keep wobbling that up and down.
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The other option I contemplated was TVR Segaris arc hinges fixed to the roof a few inches back... but then I decided that would probably be 5x more hassle than replacing the broken bar, plus the roof might change shape, plus I don't want bolts ruining the nice smooth roofline. Can't find a pic of the hinges in place, but this is the arm which kind of gives an idea...
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Meant to say as well... nice pair of Scims you've got there.
*A bit jealous*
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Smiler
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Cheers, but they're not that pretty close up. The yellow ones paint is flaking off all over the body, the overdrive is goosed, the clutch is slipping, the engine rattles, the electrics need refurbishing, the interior is largely missing and it's damp. The black one is covered in crazing and stress cracks, has a mouldy damp interior, also needs some electrical work, the wiper mechanisms need replacing and the exhaust leaks into the cabin. It does however benefit from a modern 3.0ltr V6 and 5 speed gearbox from an ex-police Omega motorway patrol car.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Are you describing your car there, or mine? My car has crazing. It's been painted by a gun not rattle cans, but it's not far off rattle can quality. Looks good in pics, but it's not good up close at all. It's a satin black and it's got pimples, dead spiders and greenfly trapped beneath it, plus big craters where the old paint flake holes weren't filled and smoothed out before re-painting. It's got loads missing from it. No rear bumper, no rear wiper, the rear lights are hanging on by the grace of the car gods, can't use the rear hatch yet, no interior to speak of, lots of worrying surface rust underneath, four rear wheels, the bonnet lock/catch is entirely absent and has to be locked with a padlock and chain, it has no choke, no dashboard lights, no carpets or headlining, the seats are Sports deckchairs from somewhere like Argos, it has race harnesses that simply do not work with the seats at all, the sunroof leaks, the electric windows took ages to get working and then I fitted weather strips to the outside (temporary to keep the rain out) and they stopped the windows going up and down again. I live in fear that my gear selectors are about to go but this might just be a haunting fear from my Humber experiences (same Type5 gearbox), it rattles like crazy when on the move (I've cured about 90% of the rattles but some I just can't locate), there's something amiss with the suspension which simultaneously feels as hard as nails - amplifying the texture of the road into a feeling like sitting on top of a road drill, and yet at the same time it wallows up and down like a cadillac and makes me feel sick (i've addressed this now, I hope), it also had some vital radiator cowling missing from the front end (top piece) so I've been making a new one the last two days. It has a sh*tload of trim missing, and some clown had fastened the alloy interior door window strips to the outside (why? WHY?) I'm slowly putting things straight, and enjoying myself with it far more than I enjoyed owning my last car. When I take it out for a run, it feels good and strong (aside from the weird suspension effects) so I cautiously feel it's a goodun and it just needs some dedicated tinkering to make it feel more complete. The thing is, despite all the faults, and despite the fact I told myself I'd take it on as a cheap clunker and sell it as a better car come spring and then get a better Scimitar... I think it's safe to say I'm loving the experience and might end up seeing this as a my long term car.
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Smiler
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Sounds like my kind of car! I suppose it depends on what you want from it. If you want a nicely finished four seater tourer for taking the family out on country jaunts then you'd be better off starting with a more sorted and so expensive car. If you want it as a toy then stick with it. That's the road (no pun intended) I've decided to take with my yellow Scimitar and I'm loving getting my teeth stuck in to it.
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Last Edit: Oct 6, 2016 15:15:53 GMT by Smiler
www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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