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Whats the difference between the van and car wings?? Just curious? Like many austins of the 50s with commercial versions of passenger cars, commercials were fitted with bigger wheels, A40 devons had 17" commercial rims, 16s for the saloons, A30/35s have comercial wheels of 13"s and the saloons had 12s, the wings were given a bigger radius, nornally easy to spot if you look at the inside of the lip, saloons had a single return, commercials had a double lip, giving a bigger radius |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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I then wanted to start cleaning the interior as it stinks of wood (the material not the smell of a boner) best quote ever! |
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Like many austins of the 50s with commercial versions of passenger cars, commercials were fitted with bigger wheels, A40 devons had 17" commercial rims, 16s for the saloons, A30/35s have comercial wheels of 13"s and the saloons had 12s, I can imagine Commercials might have had different wings but all A30/A35s had 13" wheels.  |
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v8ian
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Must be mail taller tires then
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 19, 2016 17:48:49 GMT
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At last a short respite from work, so I embarked on rubbing down some of the copious amounts of surface rust, the van was rubbed down to bare metal in a few places and left for 10+ years to get a nice Ginger hue, mostly in the engine bay and all of the floors that have been replaced, there was a lot of floor replaced, rubbed down under the bonnet, and treated with rust killer, Just looked in the mirror and you would think I have a real spray tan....... Eeek Thought I would offer up the rear wheels, the pics were taken with the drums sitting on the rim, -----Yep, those Van springs are pretty stiff, I'm now wondering if airbagging is the right way to go as it sounds like I wont be able to get the ride as stiff as I want, to get these cars to handle the front spring rate seems to be in the area of 550-600lbs... I don't think airbags will cope with that sort of rating, unless somebody can enlighten me. Anybody got a spare 105e axle laying about,  ??   |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 19, 2016 19:14:58 GMT
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Message Ray on FaceBook doesn't take long for them to answer.
Air can handle if built right..
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v8ian
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Feb 19, 2016 19:29:09 GMT
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Message Ray on FaceBook doesn't take long for them to answer. Air can handle if built right.. Thats interesting. But Ray Who? ??  |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 20, 2016 18:27:53 GMT
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Bloody auto correct...
Rayvern,
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Feb 20, 2016 20:11:08 GMT
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Love it.
And all these bits are just lying around? Brill :-) Might as well use them eh?
The body is crying out to be left as is, with perhaps a matte lacquer?
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v8ian
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Feb 20, 2016 20:47:04 GMT
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Bloody auto correct... Rayvern, I had sort of guessed it was Rayvern, but I wanted to make sure, Thankyou |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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VIP
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Feb 20, 2016 21:08:36 GMT
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I'm now wondering if airbagging is the right way to go as it sounds like I wont be able to get the ride as stiff as I want, to get these cars to handle the front spring rate seems to be in the area of 550-600lbs... I don't think airbags will cope with that sort of rating, unless somebody can enlighten me. Much bigger vehicles than an A35 run airbags, in fact it's probably one of the smallest cars I'd have seen bagged. I certainly wouldn't worry about those spring rates in airbag form. |
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Last Edit: Feb 20, 2016 21:09:14 GMT by VIP
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Feb 22, 2016 17:57:17 GMT
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Restraining the air spring at your desired ride height will allow you to experiment with pressures.
Higher the pressure the stiffer the spring...
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v8ian
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Feb 22, 2016 18:46:31 GMT
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Restraining the air spring at your desired ride height will allow you to experiment with pressures. Higher the pressure the stiffer the spring... Ok, that little snippet has just told me lots, If I restrict the range of the bag at my desired ride height, I can then set the bags to a higher pressure, allowing me to get my desired spring rate, This now raises other questions in my mind, do I leave the restraints on the suspension, If thats the case i think it will open a can of worms with the handling, and possibly problems with actually getting the wheels on and off |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 22, 2016 19:40:08 GMT
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....like running suspension with no droop.
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Feb 22, 2016 21:22:32 GMT
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Restraining the air spring at your desired ride height will allow you to experiment with pressures. Higher the pressure the stiffer the spring... Ok, that little snippet has just told me lots, If I restrict the range of the bag at my desired ride height, I can then set the bags to a higher pressure, allowing me to get my desired spring rate, This now raises other questions in my mind, do I leave the restraints on the suspension, If thats the case i think it will open a can of worms with the handling, and possibly problems with actually getting the wheels on and off The restraint would be either physical or preferably engineered. Add a mechanical device which restricts suspension travel or calculate Psi to surface area,fulcrums and leverage points.. By reducing surface area you will increase the pressure required to gain ride height. All the big players in SUV's use air suspension and they all mix on and off road ability so its not a pipe dream............. I honestly think a phone call to Ray from Rayvern would help you loads..... |
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Feb 22, 2016 22:18:26 GMT
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I did have a quick message from ray on FB this morning
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Restraining the suspension is going to be an awful idea, as every time you go over a bump your going to 'max out' your suspension travel as it rebounds. It'll be like inverse of clattering over bumpstops.
Just find a bag with a shorter stroke or find a way of mounting it lower so that on full drop it isn't fully deflated, therefore limiting lift and keep your 'fully up' height lower.
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Last Edit: Feb 23, 2016 9:18:55 GMT by VIP
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A quick build......... Dez
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Restraining the suspension is going to be an awful idea, as every time you go over a bump your going to 'max out' your suspension travel as it rebounds. It'll be like inverse of clattering over bumpstops. Just find a bag with a shorter stroke or find a way of mounting it lower so that on full drop it isn't fully deflated, therefore limiting lift and keep your 'fully up' height lower. This. And to the OP, I'd also question why you're slating the handling characteristics of bags when you have no experience of them. The myth that bags can't or won't handle is just that, a myth. It's all down to the quality of products chosen and the skill of the person fitting them. And on that count, personally I wouldn't be taking any advice from Rayvern hydraulics...... |
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I'm now leaning away from the HD spring route, It does seem to be slightly excessive @600 lbs, I know I have a 2:1 leverage built into the springing hence the Excessive rating, I'm not keen on bone Jarring rides, too kin old for that, So, I'm now thinking keep the airbags at lower ratings, and control the car with a big front ARB, and dial the cornering in with a fully adjustable rear ARB?
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 23, 2016 10:07:59 GMT
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