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Jan 31, 2016 12:31:36 GMT
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I don't really get all the anger over it. If you buy a house you pay the mortgage, if the rate goes up, you pay a bit more. We all know full well, the VED will go up every year (it nearly always does) you can either afford to pay it or you can't. If you can't, get a better job or do without, it's dead simple maths. I've got four 80's cars, they are all in the £245 a yr bracket cos they are all 2 litre or over (at least I think that's what they cost, I'm not sure, coz I don't care) & none do more than a few hundred mile a year each (as a general rule) so you can argue, I don't get my monies worth & I probably don't, but you either pay up or don't have/drive 'em! Your argument about getting a better job is valid however that isn't always possible for everybody. My son hasn't been able to find a job (doing anything even though he as a degree / previously a manager of a warehouse) since being laid off last October (doesn't claim any benefits as living on his saving - which were supposed to be toward a deposit on buying his first home) and I'm retired so live on a pension and therefore every penny counts.
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Jan 31, 2016 14:15:18 GMT
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I don't really get all the anger over it. If you buy a house you pay the mortgage, if the rate goes up, you pay a bit more. We all know full well, the VED will go up every year (it nearly always does) you can either afford to pay it or you can't. If you can't, get a better job or do without, it's dead simple maths. I've got four 80's cars, they are all in the £245 a yr bracket cos they are all 2 litre or over (at least I think that's what they cost, I'm not sure, coz I don't care) & none do more than a few hundred mile a year each (as a general rule) so you can argue, I don't get my monies worth & I probably don't, but you either pay up or don't have/drive 'em! Your argument about getting a better job is valid however that isn't always possible for everybody. My son hasn't been able to find a job (doing anything even though he as a degree / previously a manager of a warehouse) since being laid off last October (doesn't claim any benefits as living on his saving - which were supposed to be toward a deposit on buying his first home) and I'm retired so live on a pension and therefore every penny counts. Then as said you go without. Sympathy & all that, I would like a Lamborghini Countach, but guess what, I haven't & I'll live without, just in the same way that if I couldn't afford the cars I have they'd have to go
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Jan 31, 2016 18:46:36 GMT
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Some people can barely scrape a living together, working hard, looking after their kids who want the latest stuff or they will get bullied for 'being poor', some don't have a car because they cant afford to save enough to buy a licence let alone the lessons and cost of tests ect and cant get a decent paying job because they cant get there without relying on expensive unreliable buses but are happy that they do have a job and manage to scrape by day to day and then there are some moaning that they 'have' to pay £20 a month to drive their 26 year old car a car which is quite often a second car and therefore a luxury. This curse word about being priced out of the market because RFL isn't free is just people wanting something for nothing.
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to be pedenatic, the concrete sections of M25 on the south/west side are original 1970s (admitedly widened in early 90s)
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VED revenue annually was £32bn in 2009. In 2012 the UK sold 34bn litres of fuel. Getting rid of VED would add approx £1 to a litre of fuel for the government to generate the same revenue. This doesn't take into account money saved by job cuts in the dvla.
Its a much fairer system in my opinion but would have devastating consequences. Everyone gong out buying new lower emissions cars isn't the answer either. Building cars create loads of co2.
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Last Edit: Feb 3, 2016 11:35:39 GMT by rjbell78
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Ryannn
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I use my Jag as a daily and get through at least £70 worth of fuel a month, if £1 was added to a litre, my fuel cost would double. VED only costs me £20 a month so I'd have to sell it and my Shogun if the cost was moved to fuel duty and then, they'd probabaly be made worthless...
It seems to me that moving VED to fuel would only benefit 2nd car ownership or those of us using 25 year old cars daily would Only benefit if we lived in densely populated areas with efficient and plentiful public transport. Or buy something new... I think it creates more issues than solves.
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Last Edit: Feb 3, 2016 21:26:27 GMT by Ryannn
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