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Jul 10, 2007 17:03:15 GMT
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I frikkin' LOVE the wheels on this... ...but is it best just to use them for show, or can you rock 'em every day? Presumably the faces are TIG'd up and skimmed to give a nice flat area to fit to the hub. Would there be any other problems associated with running wheels like this? To my mind it'd have the same amount of stresses placed on the rim. The suspension components would be under more strain, and woking out what offset I would need would be a right nightmare as I have enough trouble getting my brain around offsets / inset / dish etc of regular rims! Any ideas?
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Jul 10, 2007 17:09:43 GMT
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i think the position of the centre of the wheel and the lack of decent weight distribution may be liable to shear off nuts/studs
plus tyre wear may be a problem. and the handling might be a bit of a joke
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SPLIT RIMS ARE FOR WINNERS
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markbognor
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Jul 10, 2007 17:14:10 GMT
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From what was said the other day these are not reversed, they are weird offset (massive positive??) Which could be right because if you look at the nuts/bolts there is no mouting face there which would be on the inside against the hub.
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Jul 10, 2007 17:23:22 GMT
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Not said this for a while but, that is a VW Golf that excites me, Lots! And to think i walked past it!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Odin
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Jul 10, 2007 17:36:24 GMT
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From what was said the other day these are not reversed, they are weird offset (massive positive??) Which could be right because if you look at the nuts/bolts there is no mouting face there which would be on the inside against the hub. Yeah, I suspected so on the thread and HoTWire later confirmed. They are a rare wierd offset version.
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Jul 10, 2007 17:58:52 GMT
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They look like ATS Classic with a huuuuuuuuuge dish!
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Jul 10, 2007 18:06:58 GMT
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I've been looking at reversed rims recently. It looks doable to me. I think the flat face plate would be the most important point. If you select a wheel with a massive offset and reverse it then you get massive dish but you also get a wheel that could stick out a lot. This may cause handling problems.
So you'd need to select something that has an easy to machine mountiing area, and reasonable offset.
Charlie
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Jul 10, 2007 18:08:29 GMT
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also the reverse of ats classics doesnt look like that
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SPLIT RIMS ARE FOR WINNERS
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markbognor
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Jul 10, 2007 18:09:38 GMT
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I seen to remember a slingshot featured in SM or CC some years ago that had five spoke revolutions reversed. They looked just like the hailbrands that would have been used in period.
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Jul 10, 2007 18:21:15 GMT
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also the reverse of ats classics doesnt look like that Sorry, I meant normal ATS Classics.... aka not reversed. Edited post cos I gots myself all confusled!
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Jul 10, 2007 19:06:43 GMT
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was experimenting today, flipping a wheel round etc. with totally wrong offset i can imagine the suspension being VERY strained. proper wheels FTW.
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Jul 10, 2007 19:39:36 GMT
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Bad and very dangerous. Terrific load on bearings. Also if countersunk wheel nuts they wouldn't seat properly.
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1960 Ford Thames 402e resto 1965 Ford Thames 400e van 5.7 ltr 1965 Ford 100e 2.1 Pinto power
It all takes time and money, why do I never have them both at the same time?
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sparko
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Jul 10, 2007 19:45:35 GMT
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Nah the bloke who owns it was at billing last weekend and they are from a old touring car type jobby. Some sort of car that was raced a while ago and to rub salt in the wound he picked them up for ridiculously cheap!
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Jul 10, 2007 20:29:16 GMT
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As with "banding wheels" and "welded diffs", I am sure it can be done and done safe. But it would probably be a mega pain and knacker your tyres and suspension quicker than normal!!!!
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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slater
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Jul 10, 2007 20:39:37 GMT
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The wheels on my mini are basicly reversed (about 5" of a 7" rim outside the flange).... I'm not dead yet.
Sure it puts more strain on the wheel bearings, ball joints and stuff just like fitting any wider/bigger wheels do but because its a little wider/bigger than normal dosent mean its instantly 'too wide'
As i allways say. Stop curse word worrying! and build cool cars!
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Jul 10, 2007 20:52:50 GMT
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cant do much about the load on the beauings but you can reduce the strain on the studs/nuts by machining the wheel so the centre is supporting the weight properly and the studs are only holding it on rather than holding it up. :S
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jul 10, 2007 21:08:33 GMT
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Ah, I must have missed the thread the first time around. So they're not reversed rims but crazy high performance rims. I see.
Very very cool. Is the guy a member of RR? If not, why not?! ;D
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slater
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Jul 10, 2007 21:19:09 GMT
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cant do much about the load on the beauings but you can reduce the strain on the studs/nuts by machining the wheel so the centre is supporting the weight properly and the studs are only holding it on rather than holding it up. :S The studs don't hold it up. Nore does the centre for that matter The friction between the wheel and hub is what holds it up.
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Jul 10, 2007 21:29:00 GMT
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I do believe thats Stanton`s car and yes he is a member on here... That car is constantly evolving too, like I thought it has a BBS bodykit on it recently ;D
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Jul 10, 2007 21:48:43 GMT
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That's Stanton's car? Fook me that thing changed rapidly! It had a full bodykit on it last time i saw it!
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1997 TVR Chimaera 2009 Westfield Megabusa
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