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Jul 12, 2007 11:32:34 GMT
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I don't know if anyones thought about the tyre valves, but it must make pumping the tyre up a nightmare?
I can totally understand what slater is saying why over worry about wheels when over areas are just a critical are often over looked, but it is a bit weird that wheels are bolted to a car via such small amounts of metal! I know the science proves otherwise but its a bit of a headf**k.
As for nuts/bolts sheering under drifting it probably to be expected, your putting pressure on the nuts/bolts in an extreme way (probably in a way they were not designed to take) and if you swapping wheels every few hours its likely to increase failer rates possibly due to metal fatige? or is my science flawed?
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jul 12, 2007 11:46:10 GMT
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i know a guy who drives the lead car for stear from the rear. I'm yet to see his silvia, or indeed their old 300zx's, lose a wheel. they change them usually after each display session but it doesnt seem to have any effect on premature bolt failure. then again, they aren't running huge offset or reversed wheels. but id tend to think that standard parts on a high power RWD car will be designed to take some form of lateral abuse from stock. although the cars I'm talking about have been subject to full performance rebuilds so may not be 100% true to roadcar form.
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Jul 12, 2007 12:10:48 GMT
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The two i saw lose wheels were a sierra XR4i and a mk3 escort converted to rwd running a YB cossie engine, the sierra was probably running its original studs and maybe they were old and stressed anyway as its owner deleiberatly bought a cheap rough car for drifting, i suspect though that the owner of the escort wasnt running old knackered studs as he's not that kind of guy, maybe they were not torqued up right?
I lost a front wheel on a 1954 Standard ten hot rod i used to own, turned out the front studs had been bent out on a slight angle to get a set of wheels on it, luckily it was a low speed incident on a roundabout in billericay.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jul 12, 2007 12:19:12 GMT
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:Waves: lol if anyones on ed38 theres a 26 page build thread here from the last year of relentless modding www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72671good bumping into the mk1 astra lads at billing thanks for the comments and curse word guys - love it erm ye the wheels are 15x9" et -19 ats classics with 195-45 tyres. think at billing we decided they were off a firenza tourer or a chevette of some description. there a reli wierd wheel, pretty much one of a kind oh and there forsale.... as for wheels round the wrong way - anythings possible with a little know how
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Jul 12, 2007 12:48:56 GMT
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Cool car mate, love the stance and the yellow headlights plus bite to go with the bark!!!!!!!
Proper weapon, respect ;D
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jul 12, 2007 13:22:03 GMT
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nice find the man with the tasty golf! as he says, they are the real deal. reversing a single piece rim seems bloody stoopid to me. you know reversing split rims is a slightly different affair.. you dismantle the wheel, switch it, re-seal and bolt back together. However, I'm yet to see any that are actually good. You can see in the above, yes you get dish and a bonkers offset but, you also get to enjoy the sh*ty looking corroded part of the wheel.. race spec wheels of course can be bonkers.. it's the balance of fitting/looks/drivability/safety that you need to weigh up and decide what you can live with
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Jul 12, 2007 13:34:24 GMT
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with the #1 above can you not get them polished out to lose the rough finish? I've seen some right manky metal brought back to lustre.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 12, 2007 13:41:11 GMT
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like mr.k said polish up the rim and they would look the plums
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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slater
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Jul 12, 2007 20:05:32 GMT
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15x9? pufft thats pretty narrow in my book! ;D
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v8lee
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Jul 12, 2007 20:36:04 GMT
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Also some of the Weld wheels are magnesium(?) for drag racing only not for road use, that could be a race only wheel being used on the road. They can/do fail as they are far lighter and more fragile. Also some drag only wheels are not designed to take the latteral loads of cornering etc.
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No more old cars
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Jul 12, 2007 22:21:37 GMT
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That thing about weld wheels is pretty shocking! never expected that! I'm no engineer, though I think laterally, apply basic physics, and common sense, and would not like to chance it with wheels. Banding i'm kind of ok, but reversing rims could be scary, specially on an old rim or one thats specifically designed, metal does not like being bent about one way to the other. I too would apply caution unless you really know EXACTLY what you are doing. think about a bike a wheel gone at speed (any speed) would be disaterous, yes forks/stem/headtube also, seen/done that one but on a car you have two of these. so the wheels become vunerable energy carriers, and car carriers! a dislocation at 77MPH anything could happen All IMO of course. This thread has made me think about the condition of my nuts!!! ;D and to get a torque wrench though my muscle power is a good measure
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 13, 2007 13:06:08 GMT
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Jul 13, 2007 14:31:07 GMT
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^^^^^^ SECS!!!!!!!
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jul 13, 2007 14:33:55 GMT
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Yeah thats a great picture. You cant change that car again. its spot on as it is now!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 13, 2007 15:03:07 GMT
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haha cheers mate, needs more wide in the rear, skinnier tyres, more rear camber and lowwwww think its just a matter of refinement now
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Marc
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Jul 13, 2007 17:50:51 GMT
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That Golf is something else. Awesome, awesome looking.
So simple and yet brilliant. ;D
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