steveg
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Apr 12, 2016 23:17:17 GMT
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Not updated this for a while and I missed a comment. The old kart in the first picture is a bit of a mystery. It has been suggested that it was an early grass kart rather then a track one which explains the tyres ! I have been busy with my sons go-kart and have finally got it put back together after having it powder coated in the colour of his choice. It's a bit bright !     |
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Apr 14, 2016 18:05:49 GMT
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Bet he's well chuffed with that, looks mega
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steveg
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Apr 14, 2016 23:28:54 GMT
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Bet he's well chuffed with that, looks mega Thanks for that, he is. I would have loved to have just gone out and bought him a new one but I think this is better than a lot you can buy. It doesn't really owe me a lot. The most expensive single payout was the powder coating at £50. The tyres cost a bit but the seat was only £10. The rest was stuff I already had or made. I think the best bit is the brake and reverse mechanism which I wasn't completely sure would work. |
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slater
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Like the look of the Villiers kart. We had one very similar before I started karting properly. (So probably about 1995, Way before classic karts were a thing) it didn't have an engine so ended up with a 100cc suzuki unit but was supposed to have a Villiers. Guess my dad must have sold it when we started karting proper.
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steveg
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Sept 10, 2016 21:54:54 GMT
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Not been doing a lot recently. Car stuff has involved getting a couple MOT'd and then there was school holidays. I've got far too much stuff in my garage and I have finally got round to putting in some more benches for the machines I have to make it possible to actually use them ! This may then lead to doing some work on my historic karts and bit for my cars when I get to working on them. I've had a little lathe for a while and bought a pillar drill and milling machine which have been stored for a while. I've extended the original bench and have just about managed to clear the floor of all the stuff that got moved.  While I was up the tip getting rid of an old cooker I spotted this which is now sitting in the way.  Not sure exactly what I am going to do with it but it has nice steering and an axle with a diff. I'm not sure as yet if any of the remaining electrics work. I've seen people using cordless drills to drive things and wonder if I could do something similar with this and replace the motor it's already got. |
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Last Edit: Sept 10, 2016 21:56:05 GMT by steveg
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Sept 10, 2016 22:09:01 GMT
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I can't exactly see the motor, but I bet you could just use the existing motor and a 12v battery with a switch, it would be simple, really if you weren't bothered about proportional speed control,
- or even x2 12v batteries and x2 switches, one to make it go, and one to swap the batteries from parallel to series, then you would have two speeds,
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Last Edit: Sept 10, 2016 22:11:15 GMT by fuldatramp
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steveg
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Sept 10, 2016 22:22:15 GMT
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I've taken the motor out. I had thought that as there were two batteries it was 24 volt. I'm not sure if thats right or not.
The motor has lost one brush but still has the speed controller so it might work just need to figure out which wires do what.
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Sept 11, 2016 0:21:25 GMT
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Yeah I bet it is 24v they usually are, try replacing the brush, if you have carbon brush that's similar from a drill motor of Hoover motor, you can always file it down to fit in the holder of the mobility scooter motor, as long as it's about the right size the tail is connected and the tensator is holding it down you should be good to go,
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steveg
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Sept 12, 2016 16:32:09 GMT
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Had a few minutes and decided to fit my drill on it to see if it moved. It goes quite well not too fast and has reasonable grunt. Only slight problem is a lack of range ! I do have a very long extension lead so drag racing might be possible but fear the lead might get caught up going round corners. I don't have a battery drill and don't think unless I buy a really good one it will go anywhere near as well as a 240 volt one.  |
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Sept 12, 2016 23:23:02 GMT
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You'd be surprised at some drills. My mate has the Snap-On electric rattle gun, reckons it's just as powerful as his air powered one, but more portable. Alternatively, check aliexpress or similar for a DC motor.
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steveg
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Sept 12, 2016 23:35:04 GMT
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I was looking at impact wrenches as they seem to be listed as having higher speeds compared with drills as well as more power. That might be down to the way the mechanism for the impact side of things works more then motor spec though.
I will keep looking round to see whats about aliexpress is a good idea thanks.
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Sept 14, 2016 21:29:32 GMT
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Much cutting, welding and grinding over the last couple of days has resulted in this.  The buggy was originally made in two pieces so it could be transported easily. I've ended up welding it together and have lost all the bit's that help it previously. I've also tilted the steering mechanism back and made a colunm and boss to fit an old Mountney wheel I had laying about. You can just about make out the cable tie attached to a bit of blue string, that's the throttle !  Still running the mains electric drill at the moment so had to devise some sort of control. When the string gets pulled it tightens the cable tie around the switch. No room for anything better at the moment. I managed to wedge the extension lead reel on the back not shown in the picture which is the long one so my son had quite a range as long as I helped with the cable. One good thing is that there isn't a battery to go flat. |
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Sept 16, 2016 15:40:09 GMT
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It's that time of year when one of my local kart tracks has a special meeting to which Historic karts are invited along to blow out the cobwebs. I haven't taken part for a few years now so thought it was about time I dug my kart out again. It's been in the garage gathering dust and rust so first job was to give it a bit of a clean up and get the rust off the rear axle and brake disc.   This is a lot better. Removed the chain and chain ring so I could spin the axle over and it cleaned up quite well using some green production paper and a quick rub with some Scotchbrite.   The bit that makes it go ! It's a Hewland Arrow 100cc engine made from the mid 70's. I've only been on 4 stroke fun karts recently so it's going to be a bit of a shock driving this again. I'm just hoping the tyres haven't gone too hard. I've got to strip the carburettor down as they have rubber diaphragms in them which don't like being left unused. In fact last time I used it it was a bit of a paint to start first time and the guys who offered to help were running out of puff pushing. |
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steveg
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Sept 16, 2016 15:48:48 GMT
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I put a video of the kart at a previous event on youtube back in 2007 ! Not the last time I took mine out but it seems a long time ago now.
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steveg
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Sept 16, 2016 15:52:07 GMT
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Another one I did, not very exciting as it's all from the same corner !
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steveg
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Sept 26, 2016 10:27:13 GMT
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I ended up doing a few things to the kart last week to get it ready. I rebuilt the carb and then spotted the brake master cylinder was leaking. Having previously bodged it by cleaning up the bore as best I could and fitting a new seal kit I thought I ought to get a new one. The one on it was probably 30 years old anyway !
With the brakes fixed I decided to try and start it to make sure it would actually run at the kart track. I've always been a bit dubious about firing it up at home. One problem is the noise but being direct drive once they go it takes a bit to stop them ! I made up a block to lift the rear wheels off the ground that clamped onto the chassis, found an old seat belt and this happened.
It's a bit loud and smokey !
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samta22
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Sept 26, 2016 11:44:13 GMT
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Steve am interested in where you get to run these historic karts? I've an old TKM that I want to get out in having just finished its rebuild, trouble is finding somewhere to give it a good shakedown that allows these old (and loud) karts to run?
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Sept 26, 2016 12:16:47 GMT
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Steve am interested in where you get to run these historic karts? I've an old TKM that I want to get out in having just finished its rebuild, trouble is finding somewhere to give it a good shakedown that allows these old (and loud) karts to run? A lot depends on it's age. Fortunately mine is old enough it is classed a historic so I can run it in demonstrations and there is also a race series. Some clubs like Blackbushe will allow older karts out on a practice day but you would have to ask and it might be only if there are a few of you to do it. I was talking to someone about this and he told me Angmering Kart track have let historic karts out as well but all will require you to have the right spec helmet and probably suit,gloves and shoes as well. If it's got full bodywork and looks up to the current spec that's being raced it might be ok to take out at most tracks. |
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Sept 26, 2016 12:32:33 GMT
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Saturday at Blackbushe went quite well. I don't have a stand any more so it had to get dusty sitting on the floor.  Still worried about it starting I gave it a bit of a talking to.  It still didn't start very well first time though. |
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Sept 26, 2016 13:29:56 GMT
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Not sure what lap this was but the first few were a bit scary. Not been on it for a few years and the tyres weren't gripping at all. Spent most of the time getting out of the way !  We had three sessions of 5 laps and I think this must have been the last one when the tyres and driver had woken up a bit.  A bit of daylight under the inside rear tyre on tight corners means things are working properly. I want to go out on it again now ! |
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