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Feb 11, 2018 13:57:39 GMT
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And with a final bit of welding, the cowl area is done. The patch joins the outer edges of the Miata scuttle to the Volvo a-post area. In other words, welding upside-down in the footwell over your head. Because of the contorted position required, I will admit to procrastinating about doing this for a bit. Like two years worth of procrastinating. Quite happy with the results now that it is done. So with that done time to finish off the job with a touch of shine. Wire wheel all the welds, scuff the paint with a scotch-brite pad, degrease, mask and shoot some rocker guard to hide the scars. The reason for white was in case I ever have to stick my head up under the dash, the white will help with the mood lighting. Anyone else have this problem? This is the result of the one patch panel that I had to make. Why is it that any job I do takes every tool I own to accomplish!? Wipers can now go on to stay and the project moves on to getting a wiring harness routed; the plan is to use a thinned out Miata harness.
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vulgalour
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Feb 11, 2018 14:49:38 GMT
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The smaller the repair, the more tools I end up using, so you're not on your own. That's an excellent idea with the white paint! All cars should have that.
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Feb 11, 2018 16:46:14 GMT
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I'd have at least twice the tools in there...!!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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eurogranada
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To tinker or not to tinker, that is the question...
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Feb 12, 2018 10:35:17 GMT
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I'm for option one, pulling it all together in one nice custom cover piece. To me that would be more in keeping with the rest of your build. Can't remember off the top of my head where your console ends, but I can even imagine a nice barrier from one arch cover to the other fitted behind your seats. Separating boot and cabin visually a little bit more. Although I'm not thinking of a high plate (creating a box shape), but rather something with some shape to it and a lower centre... If that makes sense.
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Feb 12, 2018 12:00:26 GMT
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I'm for option one, pulling it all together in one nice custom cover piece. To me that would be more in keeping with the rest of your build. Can't remember off the top of my head where your console ends, but I can even imagine a nice barrier from one arch cover to the other fitted behind your seats. Separating boot and cabin visually a little bit more. Although I'm not thinking of a high plate (creating a box shape), but rather something with some shape to it and a lower centre... If that makes sense. The though of something behind the seats has crossed my mind also. Just so happens that Mazda makes a crossbar that bolts right into the shock towers. It would give me something to tie stuff to so that it does not go slidding into the rear window. Structurally it would be kind of redundant since the roof does kinda the same thing. Option #1 is certainly a good one, I do however think it needs a lot of detail development ( read as "more work"). It should be fun to look back on this point of the thread from the future and compare to what was actually done.
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Last Edit: Feb 12, 2018 13:00:07 GMT by bjornagn
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God hates a coward, so with no further ado and one last read of my warning, the front clip has been welded on. The car is now one piece again. Big milestone in my book. This is the DS cowl. Pretty much have the DS welding done and started on the PS. Bit of the old grind in my immediate future.
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fantastic and significant progress!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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Feb 20, 2018 16:07:09 GMT
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Speaking of progress...more proof that this is a non-linear game. When I went out to the shop on Monday morning, I had the dashboard installation and wiper system installation firmly crossed off the list with big exclamation points of relief. They are both back on the list. When I installed the dash and its PITA A-pillar mounts, I was locating the dash position based on 4 bolts on the tunne ( see the little rectangular hole at the bottom of the dash?) l. With the tunnel bracket on the dash located so that the four bolts looked centered, I built the brackets to hold the ends and leading edge of the dash. And there was much rejoicing because it came up nice and close to the windshield and yet allowed for the window rubber to go in place. And there was room for the wipers to fit underneath. What I was missing at the time was the center stack piece for the radio and HVAC. Had one on order but not yet here. Should have waited. When I went to install the centre stack for the dash ( aka "Tombstone" in Miata vernacular) the leading edge would not match the console. Furthermore, the shifter mechanism ( has a tongue that travels under the front of the console via the tombstone) would hit the tombstone. So, the dash had to rotate a few degrees forward, tilting the leading edge downward. Needing the mounts cut off the A post and the leading edge of the cowl. And the front of the dash had to be re-contoured to match the lower position. Broke my spirit to cut these off the A-post since they were so fun to make and install. So, the dash is in a workable position now. Just need to re-make the side brackets and dream up a new forward bracket of some sort. The more interesting challenge is that I will need to carve some clearance into the leading edge of the dash that will accommodate the wipers, and then figure how to trim-out the front so as to hide the wiper mechanism and 1.5" drop to the dash. It has to be something elegant because it is going to be right in your face the whole time. On a more positive note, the front clip is firmly attached and most of the grinding to clean up the welds is done. Maybe a few more hours to fine tune some of them, but let us pray the front clip never has to come off again. Pete
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Feb 20, 2018 19:17:46 GMT
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That is going to look simply fantastic!...love the contours of the dash and how it all looks right....
jP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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eurogranada
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I feel your pain... Sometimes it really sucks to have to go back and redo some work that was so much fun to get done the first time around. I guess most of us have been there at one time.
So the last two pictures show the dash in the right place? Looks like you could get away with a relatively simply shaped "bolster like" (for lack of better word) transition piece between it and the windshield frame. If done nicely covered in the same colour material I think it would look fine.
My 66 mustang had a curved metal transition piece in two parts to cover the back edge of the dash pad and which sat against the windshield rubber. That never looked out of place either. Yours would have to be a bit wider than that of the mustang but the idea possibly applies.
Anyway if there's one thing I've learned about you by now it is that you surely already have a pretty good idea on how to proceed anyway!
You'll find a way...
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Feb 21, 2018 12:11:56 GMT
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You bring up a point I keep trying to make for those on the sidelines. Yes, this is about skills, but the truth is that the skills often follow, not lead, the determination to get the job done.
I have never done about 85% of the task completed on this project. The thread is in real time as I learn how to do stuff. If I show the failures and the do-overs it is because that is the learning point and maybe the best bit ( after I get it sorted) that I will laugh about in the future.
We all learned to walk and talk in about a year, this stuff is easy by comparison!
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steveg
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Feb 21, 2018 12:47:24 GMT
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Shame you had to move the dash but by fitting some sort of cover panel it might mean you could carry out any repairs to the wipers without having to remove the dash and there is more room to fit a screen if you need to.
Are you having any de-misting vents ?
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Feb 21, 2018 13:16:29 GMT
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One of the tipping points for using the Miata dash in its entirely is that it brought along all the HVAC functions and controls with it. All of the Miata ducting is in place and un-altered. The de-misting vents fall right where I need them to be.
The lower leading edge is a bit of a pain, but I think a decorative strip of some sort will deal with the issue. A more difficult decision is, with another $1000 deadline looming on June 22, do I move on to other things that are required to get the car on the road ( not painted) or do I bolt the dash in place and revisit later when the wiring will make it harder to remove and work on?
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Feb 21, 2018 13:23:35 GMT
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Screw the deadline - just do it right.
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Feb 21, 2018 15:51:01 GMT
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Screw the deadline - just do it right. But...she GLOATS as I hand over the $$$!
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Feb 21, 2018 16:02:04 GMT
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But...she GLOATS as I hand over the $$$! you mean thats not all part of the game? doing it right, means not doing it several times!... Keep that "several" part conceptual. Skill acquisition....yeah, tell me about it! Thanks for sharing what works and what does not work....it adds very valuable definition... JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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steveg
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Feb 21, 2018 16:20:16 GMT
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One of the tipping points for using the Miata dash in its entirely is that it brought along all the HVAC functions and controls with it. All of the Miata ducting is in place and un-altered. The de-misting vents fall right where I need them to be. Sorry I couldn't see them in the pictures, went back and found an earlier one.
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vulgalour
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Feb 21, 2018 18:29:01 GMT
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That top piece looks like it would take a strip of wood to match the rear interior bed you'd planned ages ago very nicely. Might be a bit of a chore to make.
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glenanderson
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Feb 21, 2018 18:53:18 GMT
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Stuff a pool noodle in the gap. That’ll do.
I’ll get my coat... 😂
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Feb 21, 2018 21:12:17 GMT
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Stuff a pool noodle in the gap. That’ll do. I’ll get my coat... 😂 You actually come closest to the general idea. Only think small diameter pool noodle wrapped in a burl walnut wrap.
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