glenanderson
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Could the copper pipe be the result of someone’s ham-fisted attempt to fill or suck out the oil, that’s been accidentally dropped into the engine? Unlikely , unless they were sucking the oil out with a syringe 😂😂😂 Very small bore pipe Some of the oil suction pumps are small enough bore to let you do an oil change via the dipstick hole... Never under-estimate the power of stupidity, the type of person to put that in there may well have been using a syringe! Some interesting marks on that pipe though, likewise with the ends being chewed up, makes you wonder... how's your forensic analysis these days? Regardless of the questions raised, good to see some progress  Indeed, stupidity is a powerful thing 😂 |
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Oct 15, 2018 10:23:06 GMT
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so is it 3/16 brake pipe, or is the perspective out of whack?
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Davey
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Oct 15, 2018 15:41:18 GMT
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I've found some fun stuff in engines before but that new! Good luck with the internal gubbins.
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so is it 3/16 brake pipe, or is the perspective out of whack? Haven't measured it,but if I had to hazard a guess I would say smaller than that. About 3mm od.... |
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Pile of washing up getting bigger  Pulled the front stationary gear  No signs of copper...  Motor flipped over for rear stationary gear removal  Rear stationary gear removed,again, no visible damage  Wanged out all the mainbolts  Remember this vaguely familiar part?  I remember where I have seen that shape before...  Its the bottom of a broken off oil filler cap. Can only surmise that the engine got bumped whilst in storage,breaking the cap off. With the oil filler tube now open, that little copper pipe fell in. Time to split the keg and see what horrors lurk within... |
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Last Edit: Oct 16, 2018 3:30:41 GMT by Deleted
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jamesd1972
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So so do you need to find another one the same to play with or have you got all the bits now ?
These engines are fascinating but weird!
James
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So so do you need to find another one the same to play with or have you got all the bits now ? These engines are fascinating but weird! James Still stripping it down. Should finish tonight |
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jamesd1972
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So so do you need to find another one the same to play with or have you got all the bits now ? These engines are fascinating but weird! James Still stripping it down. Should finish tonight I was wondering about the bits to go from 2 to 3 rotor as much as is this one OK ? CNC's up and running on a job so time to play ? James |
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Oct 16, 2018 11:04:02 GMT
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maybe they were using the microbore pipe as a fishing rod, and then that broke off inside the engine too...
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Oct 16, 2018 12:10:38 GMT
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maybe they were using the microbore pipe as a fishing rod, and then that broke off inside the engine too... Highly unlikely. |
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Oct 16, 2018 15:16:41 GMT
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Just read it all, and now discovered the other thread to read. Going to keep me busy a while longer 😂 keep up the excellent work
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Oct 16, 2018 19:25:49 GMT
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Still stripping it down. Should finish tonight I was wondering about the bits to go from 2 to 3 rotor as much as is this one OK ? CNC's up and running on a job so time to play ? James Until it's stripped,I cannot say. From the outset it was going to be an organ donor for thr three rotor. Busy at work,but not much time to play as I have a span of drawings to do... |
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Oct 16, 2018 19:26:55 GMT
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Just read it all, and now discovered the other thread to read. Going to keep me busy a while longer 😂 keep up the excellent work ....you need to get out more 😂😂😂 Thanks for the kind words all the same 😁 |
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Oct 16, 2018 19:55:30 GMT
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Fascinating thread, i´m glad you´re back on it to some degree.
Do you need to source another motor to make a 3 rotor version?
Panther tracks?! And they aren´t even destined for one of Mr Wheatcrofts four that he has?
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Fascinating thread, i´m glad you´re back on it to some degree. Do you need to source another motor to make a 3 rotor version? Panther tracks?! And they aren´t even destined for one of Mr Wheatcrofts four that he has? Thank you Sir. Unfortunately it's looking like another donor engine might be required 😕 Kevin is a complex man and at the moment he seems to be his own worst enemy. He seems to possess an uncanny knack for rubbing people up the wrong way. He has had a major falling out with the guys that were restoring his Panther,and both have walked out. Without divulging too much, the general consensus of opinion is,that the older he gets,the more unreasonable/uncooperative he gets. I would be prepared to wager that his Panther will never get finished in his lifetime. Sad but true.... |
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2018 1:33:01 GMT by Deleted
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Welcome to the stripshow. Front plate off revealing the front rotor and chamber  No sign of FOD, which is good news 😊 Front plate worn,but probably useable  Front rotor and rotor housing removed revealing the centre plate,usual pile of poo from the water channels.  Rear plate off, exposing the rear rotor and housing  Rear plate again worn,but possibly useable  Rotor housings don't look bad,do they?  Wrong 😢 Both scrap as apex seals have worn through the chrome, with the smaller,end piece of the two piece apex seal machining a groove into the housing    Extent of how far gone the apex seals are,these should be flat on the lower side. This engine did big miles...  This was a disappointment. I had hoped that this engine would have yielded at least one good rotor housing,so pretty gutted that both are scrap 😢 The search for another donor continues. Have already skipped the two rotor housings as I didn't want to see them any longer than I needed to. Didn't even bother cleaning them,as the damage was so apparent. Cleaning of the other parts continues. Not a total waste of time,as this engine will donate some of its parts to the three rotor ,shortblock build,just not as many as I would have liked... |
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2018 2:06:00 GMT by Deleted
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Not at this rate we won't. Housings in good condition are hard to come by and I don't relish the idea of £900 each, new from Japan including freight and import duties...
The search continues.....
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Fascinating thread, i´m glad you´re back on it to some degree. Do you need to source another motor to make a 3 rotor version? Panther tracks?! And they aren´t even destined for one of Mr Wheatcrofts four that he has? Thank you Sir. Unfortunately it's looking like another donor engine might be required 😕 Kevin is a complex man and at the moment he seems to be his own worst enemy. He seems to possess an uncanny knack for rubbing people up the wrong way. He has had a major falling out with the guys that were restoring his Panther,and both have walked out. Without divulging too much, the general consensus of opinion is,that the older he gets,the more unreasonable/uncooperative he gets. I would be prepared to wager that his Panther will never get finished in his lifetime. Sad but true.... Thats the geezer with the Schnell boat / E boat isnt it ? Read stuff like that before in other places . Pity. |
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Thank you Sir. Unfortunately it's looking like another donor engine might be required 😕 Kevin is a complex man and at the moment he seems to be his own worst enemy. He seems to possess an uncanny knack for rubbing people up the wrong way. He has had a major falling out with the guys that were restoring his Panther,and both have walked out. Without divulging too much, the general consensus of opinion is,that the older he gets,the more unreasonable/uncooperative he gets. I would be prepared to wager that his Panther will never get finished in his lifetime. Sad but true.... Thats the geezer with the Schnell boat / E boat isnt it ? Read stuff like that before in other places . Pity. One and the same. Yes it is a pity,would be so much better if people would work with each other instead of against each other. Too many big egos that need pampering in the military vehicle scene... |
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2018 5:45:09 GMT by Deleted
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