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Hi all,
Been sometime since i last visited... anywho, having stupidly moved away from classics ( wish i hadnt!!)i now have a 206 1.4hdi with 100k miles on the clock had it 6 weeks and its been a total farce! New clutch fitted in first 4 weeks, new back axle has the old one had not only totally collapsed but also split in two halves! New rear wheel cylinders as they had both seized up when fitted new axle.. anyway, having had so many problems in such a short time frame, I'm put off owning another peugeot unfortunately. Had a few and well....
Anyway my family and partner are actually trying to talk me into getting something else when the funds etc allow Before anything else goes On the 206 ( was hoping now it would be just norm like servicing and tyres and brakes type of stuff but they still say i should get rid. )
My dad and my fiance are saying to get an mgf or v6 ford cougar had a cougar before but was the 2.0 and began to struggle with fuel costs doing 15k miles plus a year. The.mgf however is better on mpg but the hgf problems has made me think twice ( thought about mg zr and zs before a fair few times over recent years even when sat in a car about to part with the cash, walked away at the last minute due to doubt over hgf issues.. mgf however is seriously tempting. But, can the hgf problems be stopped? Ive heard of uprated land rover headgaskets with metal dowels or something but again... is that really solving the problem? don't want to having now fixed the 206 to get rid before anything else goes to get an mgf and a few months down the line the engine be as much use a chocolate tea pot..
Not entirelly sure what to think as I'm seriously swade over to back into mk2 fiesta ownership for sheer reliability and simplicity!.. but not sure this would be able to do the 15k miles all year round all weather needs i have without serious rust or reliability issues after heavy miles..
Sorry for the ramble but my heads all overately having bought this 206.. doors are opening for potential next cars! lol
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quackshot
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If your concern is mpg and reliability them but something which can eat miles and remain reliable. Bmw tds or merc equivalent.
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Mike
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Sounds like you've been unlucky with the 206, but the rear axles are common issues with Peugeots. They aren't however inherently unreliable, now you've had the axle and clutch done it'll probably last for ages and need nothing. Better the devil you know and all that.
From what I've seen MGFs also suffer from rust on top of the HG issues, so maybe not the best choice for a 15k per year commute...
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Last Edit: Feb 2, 2015 17:16:35 GMT by Mike
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Tbh now you've done those bits and once its serviced thoroughly it'll be fine for a long time, seems a bit daft getting rid now seeing as you've dumped a decent bit of cash into it which you'll not get back if you paid a decent amount for the car.
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taurus
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As said above, now you've spent so much on the 206 I'd be tempted to at least give it a shot before getting rid.
The MGF - yes they've got a reputation for hg issues, but if you get one that's been done chances are it'll be fine. There are reasons why they are susceptible to thermal shock due to the layout of the cooling system, and you can work around that (I'm sure there's a guy on here who wrote a brilliant account of the work he did to overcome that issue). The engine is otherwise a fine bit of engineering. (Didn't Practical Classics do an article on it recently which was glowing with praise?)
If you just want a cheap reliable metal box on wheels to get from A to B don't overlook the humble Yaris. Modern - but if it's just transport you want they're hard to beat.
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Tbh clutch at 100k isnt bad and the rear beams always go on 206's
I would hang in to it for a while.
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Don't think for a minute that and Mgf will be any better. I know people that have had them and all but one had issues...big ones.
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qwerty
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MG ZR or ZS TD. Look good (imo) handle well(ish) and a bulletproof engine which is tunable And best of all pretty cheap!
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Ian
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I would echo many of the above points really, it would be a shame having spent what you have to get rid of now. Does it need a cam let anytime soon? What future maintenance do you think it will need soon?
If you do want to go with an alternative non retro daily, you could do a lot worse than a mk4 Astra, I had a 2.2 for 49k miles that I paid £900 for and the only reason it went was my fault when the timing chain snapped. The 1.8 seem the best of the bunch I've been told by a local specialist.
No it won't be the best car out there, but if it's a coupe or 3 door they still look pretty good to me, and are an ok drive
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taurus
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I would echo many of the above points really, it would be a shame having spent what you have to get rid of now. Does it need a cam let anytime soon? What future maintenance do you think it will need soon? If you do want to go with an alternative non retro daily, you could do a lot worse than a mk4 Astra, I had a 2.2 for 49k miles that I paid £900 for and the only reason it went was my fault when the timing chain snapped. The 1.8 seem the best of the bunch I've been told by a local specialist. No it won't be the best car out there, but if it's a coupe or 3 door they still look pretty good to me, and are an ok drive By chance - I had a 2.2 which did 135k and was going as sweet as a nut when I sold it. Much maligned engines, given good oil changes they are very reliable. I then went for the 1.8, and it is as good as has been suggested. Rather quicker than the 2.2 in fact. So I can second that recommendation from experience.
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JohnK
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To echo other peoples comments, now that you have put money into the 206, get some use out of it and keep up to date on routine maintenance. I've sunk money into a car, replaced it and had to start all over again. As somebody has said, better the devil you know.
If you must change though, then the K-Series in the MGF isn't a bad engine. Yes there is always the risk of HGF but find a car that has had the gasket changed and do the usual checks when buying. Don't be afraid to walk away from the first few you see. I walked away from 2 Rover 25's last year when looking for a cheap runner for the missus as I wasn't happy with them. Keep an eye on the coolant level and make sure it's appropriately topped up and no reason why it shouldn't keep going. I've had a couple of Rovers with the K-Series.
If you're handy with a car then keeping up on maintenance and rust preventative measures shouldn't be difficult. I was using an MK3 Escort 1.3 for 500+ miles a week at the back end of last year and I did just a shade over 900 miles in my F reg Volvo 740 last week commuting.
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Last Edit: Feb 4, 2015 6:35:40 GMT by JohnK
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I had an 'F as a second car (bought off here no less) and long and short of it is that I wouldn't buy one to use for 15k miles a year.
Really fun car, and very cheap but not built for longevity. I'm at work now so can't delve to far into my ownership experience but I will write a longer reply later...
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I had an st24, used to get nearly 40mpg cruising in that. The cougar I owned wasn't nearly as good and drove like a barge, even though it's supposed to be the same chassis...
MX5? Very mechanically simple and bulletproof, just need to keep an eye on the sills...fuel economy only low 30's though...
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We picked up a 206 (Ronald Garros special edition ), had to change a few bits* to when we got it but it's been great since we replaced the worn/dud bits. *Shopping list included rear beam axle (common), front strut bushes (safe, but knocking/creaking), a dud fan ecu (now disconnected - to stop it always running full speed), various warning lamps on the dash Other than that, just consumables like tyres... We like Pugs & Citroens!
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