Davey
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Nov 11, 2016 15:44:04 GMT
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What's the Land Rover fix? Using the discovery uprated headgasket. Make sure to check for dropped liners, this is quite often the case and not enough people check, leading to overheating still and furrowed brows. Get over to the 75 mgzt owners club for all info you could ever need re k series headgasket malarkey.
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Nov 11, 2016 16:36:15 GMT
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What's the Land Rover fix? 4WD + turbo? Someone *PLEASE* confirm it's 4wd + turbo (subscribed again as I'd really like to see it when done ) I might have a set of studded winter tyres going cheap that would finish the look nicely. Good luck, even if you decide against 4WD.
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Rich
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Nov 11, 2016 19:07:56 GMT
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the discovery uprated headgasket. You'll have a hard job using a discovery HG. You mean Freelander
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Nov 11, 2016 22:00:33 GMT
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the discovery uprated headgasket. You'll have a hard job using a discovery HG. You mean Freelander she'll be right, just carefully cut the pushrod holes off with a stanley knife, or the 5th cylinder depending on age
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Rich
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Nov 11, 2016 22:02:09 GMT
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You'll have a hard job using a discovery HG. You mean Freelander she'll be right, just carefully cut the pushrod holes off with a stanley knife, or the 5th cylinder depending on age Use 2 from a V8 kit for lower compression for the Rover 75 Turbo manifold?
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Davey
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Nov 11, 2016 23:04:05 GMT
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the discovery uprated headgasket. You'll have a hard job using a discovery HG. You mean Freelander I knew what I meant, you got the basic idea. K series steel uprated headgasket.
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orangecords
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Nov 12, 2016 22:23:14 GMT
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Sorry to hear about the Rover woes sir. I'm sure you'll get it sorted in whichever way suits you best! In the meantime have some old custom car mag Princess pics to cheer you up lol
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Last Edit: Nov 12, 2016 22:24:14 GMT by orangecords: added second photo
I then wanted to start cleaning the interior as it stinks of wood (the material not the smell of a boner) best quote ever!
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vulgalour
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Nov 15, 2016 11:01:14 GMT
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Right, first bit of news from the engine shop I dropped the Renault's engine off with at the end of last week. That's much quicker than I was expecting, tbh. On their first inspection they suspect muddled caps - NOT MY FAULT! They're in the order they were when I dismantled everything - to be the reason for the crank locking when everything is torqued up. They want to be extra sure that it's not something else so were asking my permission to take the head off.
I'm not precious about my work on this one, it's my first attempt at an engine rebuild and they've done lots and lots so it'll be reassuring to know everything is as it ought to be. Bill so far is £70-80, it's uncomfortable not really knowing how much things like this are going to cost until they're done but needs must.
Fingers crossed it really does just need new bearings and possibly a crank regrind, then I've got very little to do to sort this little monster out.
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qwerty
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Nov 15, 2016 11:20:20 GMT
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Sounds like partially good news at least!
Tom
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Nov 15, 2016 12:52:31 GMT
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Got the T shirt on that one too - marked my caps and did not fit on reassembly - machine shop checked & 2 wrong way round?
Sounds like my garage Faeries are living at your place now.
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Nov 15, 2016 23:47:22 GMT
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Depends if the last person to pull it apart (before you) took the same amount of care. Some people just tear into things with a gungho attitude then get the poops when things don't work afterwards.
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vulgalour
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Nov 16, 2016 16:35:51 GMT
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Got the Renault out of the garage in readiness for fitting the engine since it seems likely it'll be sorted by the end of the week. Not enough space to do the job inside the garage. Took a couple of snapshots while I was at it. My back is healing up but I'm still on reduced duties. I made a little more progress on dismantling the Rover engine to remove the head but my back is stopping me from doing some of the more difficult nuts and bolts. I've got it down to the inlet manifold lower bolts to undo, cambelt to remove (once the engine is set to the correct timing location), and then the head can come off and be sent off for inspection. Hopefully have that done by this weekend at the latest as I'm reliant on other folk having the time to help me on this one.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:40:30 GMT
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My back is healing up but I'm still on reduced duties. I made a little more progress on dismantling the Rover engine to remove the head but my back is stopping me from doing some of the more difficult nuts and bolts. I've got it down to the inlet manifold lower bolts to undo, cambelt to remove (once the engine is set to the correct timing location), and then the head can come off and be sent off for inspection. Hopefully have that done by this weekend at the latest as I'm reliant on other folk having the time to help me on this one. Know that one well ..... take it from me,your back is worth more than any car engine .... i''m waiting on help to raise the tow hitch on my Disco,plus get the thing serviced. I can't crawl around under it,and i cant put pressure on my back trying to get rusted bolts undone to adjust the tow bar.....
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Davenger
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Nov 16, 2016 23:44:55 GMT
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Seriously frustrating. But, as you say, your back is more important than any engine. Hope it gets better soon dude.
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vulgalour
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Nov 18, 2016 14:46:08 GMT
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We'll get there. Back is *loads* better today because I've been good so this weekend we should be all set for doing the Rover head removal, hoorah! --- With the Renault outside waiting for the engine to come back, the weather decided to help me with some more leak hunting. Here we go then, a tour of the leaks and what I think I need to do to fix them. To start with, the boot is still letting water in, as evidenced by this puddle on the parcel shelf. Taken me a while to figure this one out entirely but it looks like it's getting past the boot seal itself which has certainly seen better days. Looks like a generic profile on the seal so shouldn't be too bad to replace. It's coming in through the rear screen seal as well but nowhere near as badly as through the main boot seal. The other puddle is this one. That's caused by the side windows which also don't seal well, partly because the seals are too short. They just need a blob more sealant where the gap is to sort this. Looks like it's getting through just at the bottom edge of the sealant bridge. Really I should fit new seals to these rear windows to resolve this and again they look like a generic profile so I might do that in the future. Next, this big old lake under the passenger seat. Here's where we get into the territory of difficult to locate leaks because on the passenger side there's a lot of them. Most of it is coming through the top of the rear door. Mainly because the stick-on seal (factory standard as far as I can tell) is knackered on all the doors and more knackered than the rest on this one. Admittedly, having gutters on the car would help lessen this as the water would be channeled away from them and I have priced up replacement universal guttering to do just that. Door seals will help too anyway in keeping the water out on the move. The windscreen had appeared to have stopped leaking. Unfortunately that isn't the case and it is still letting water in along the top edge. I'm going to squidge more sealant into the top of the windscreen seal as was done when I got the car. At least with a cloth headlining I can see where it's coming in and have some idea of where to put the sealant. So, passenger side first which again is the worst side. The door seal on the front door is also shot, the door doesn't fit as well as the others either, and that's letting water get in at the sill. What was confusing me was that water did just appear in the footwell on the passenger side and I could never figure out how. Liberal poofing about of talcum powder highlighted just how it's doing it. Water is running down the outside of the bulkhead and then seeping through the body-to-chassis seam and into the car. That's more difficult to resolve, to do it properly it's going to be a body-off job so I can put some proper sealant/tape on before bolting the body back to the chassis. The bulkhead above this seam is completely dry. Driver's side of the windscreen is also letting a small amount of water in. As with the passenger door, the seal is shot and water is getting in and pooling on the sill. There is another drip from under the dash somewhere just to the right of the pedals and I've not figured that one out yet. I might have to fix the other leaks to find it. There is a small splash to the right of the pedal that highlights the leak, it's not massively clear in the photograph. None of these leaks are a huge worry for now, I've emptied the car of anything that might be damaged by the water and since it's at home I can mop it out regularly. Once the engine is fitted I can get the car back in the garage out of the weather. Your recommendations for where to obtain generic seals are welcome, just remember the ones on the doors are a self-adhesive foam strip type, there's not channel to fix a conventional seal to.
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frodo
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Nov 18, 2016 17:12:46 GMT
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Nov 18, 2016 17:20:41 GMT
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sealsdirect for by the meter "caravan seals" and stuff
landrovers have this black bitumen putty all over the place in gaps and joins, even used as window sealant, colloquially called "dumdum". can be warmed up and worked like blue tac or plasticine then poked into gaps
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Last Edit: Nov 18, 2016 17:21:02 GMT by darrenh
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vulgalour
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Nov 18, 2016 17:35:05 GMT
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I was aware of that landrover sealant but not what it was called so couldn't search for it. May do a good job on those side windows and the chassis-to-body join. I mean, it's not like a concourse finish is needed on this old heap, right?
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Nov 18, 2016 18:42:27 GMT
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Pu sealer can be moulded and cut to shape quite easily, make a mould out of masking tape and cardboard fill the cavity, let it cure then pull off the mould and trim to shape.
To be honest on some of my fleet I have never managed to completely stop the leaks, regular waxoyling of the floors and easily liftable carpets are the order of the day.
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Rich
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Nov 18, 2016 19:54:50 GMT
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sealsdirect for by the meter "caravan seals" and stuff landrovers have this black bitumen putty all over the place in gaps and joins, even used as window sealant, colloquially called "dumdum". can be warmed up and worked like blue tac or plasticine then poked into gaps You'll have a hard job finding dumdum nowadays. I don't think anyone make it any more.
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