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Aug 10, 2014 14:46:41 GMT
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Nothing wrong with just doing 30 mph. In fact I rather like mopeds despite having a full bike licence since 1974 ! Just think of the saving in fuel and enjoy the life in the slow lane - seriously. If you want to go faster then get a CBT and a 125 but I found in a lot of my urban journeys I was not much slower than a car that will do 150 mph ! They will leave you standing but then you overtake them when they are stuck in traffic a little distance later. Plus a MOPED can use bus / cycle lanes so can get access in cities where motorbikes / scooters can't go. Also you can legally park in cycle bays.
Paul h
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Aug 10, 2014 14:53:41 GMT
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If it was within the village i would be happy Unfortunately i need to travel along an A road and over a motorway flyer-over It's not that wide and people regularly go 60+ It was an idea due to it's potential ease, but not desirable enough for the extra tests / costs / time etc  |
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Aug 10, 2014 19:18:45 GMT
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Most modern quality mopeds can be easily de restricted and will fly along at 45 to 50 mph with no loss of reliability, they will also do 30 mph up hill whilst restricted which is twice as much as mine did at 16. Its all about road presence, if you ride in the gutter people will always try to squeeze passed and you have nowhere to go. Make them pull out to pass, its highly unlikely you will get mown down. Ehen I wadA 16 year old a friend used to do courier work on his moped up and down the a1
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Aug 10, 2014 19:44:11 GMT
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Yeh it's more for my presence of mind. I'd rather just not put myself in that position
The difference in speed is such that coming around a blind corner the car driver has to pull out at short notice and depending what's coming the opposite way will decide how much room they give the moped
If this was my only option i would probably consider it but it was more of a cheeky sideline i could keep in the garage for the odd days i fancy it
My problem with de-restricting it is if i saw a copper i would become anxious and it's just not worth it
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Aug 11, 2014 21:13:57 GMT
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I think if you aren't happy about your own safety then its not a good idea, however from your description its not going to matter if you are doing 30mph or 50mph to be honest and 30mph means you stop a lot sooner  I'm biased as i like riding bikes (and i think everybody should do at least 6 months on a bike before getting in a car) but how about doing a rider training course, riding in traffic on a bike is different to being in a car and the instructor will be able to demonstrate defensive riding, the effect of road positioning etc to you for very little cost, you can hire a moped (and borrow a helmet i would have thought), you will probably realise very quickly if it is or isn't for you + you may find even a days training gives you an enhanced awareness of other traffic/ road conditions that will be useful while in a car as well. |
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Aug 11, 2014 21:27:45 GMT
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Yeh i appreciate your input I drove this road today and at 50 mph you could own the lane but at 30 i think it's asking a bit much to have traffic slow down for you I think they probably would and it would probably be ok but for me this journey wold also have to travelled a little quicker. It would be bloody dull doing it at 30 I rode a moped for a few years around Watford delivering pizza. It was great. Everywhere we went it was either 30mph or occasionally 40 so you could own the lane without any problem. and seeing as i was getting paid for it the ultimate speed didn't matter I now live in a village with no way out except national speed limit roads with no run-off and not very wide If i am to do it i think i would go the extra to allow de-restriction I just think it is silly that i am allowed to ride moped on a full driving licence but i am limited to 30. What the hell do they think i am going to do if i go faster??  |
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Aug 11, 2014 23:20:36 GMT
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The CBT is nothing and IMO should be done before any riding takes place.
The titles on the licence are there to show provisional entitlement so you can sit the tests to gain the full licence.
The CBT allows you to ride up to 14.3bhp 125cc, but there is many 2 strokes out there that stretch these rulings.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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Aug 28, 2014 13:16:32 GMT
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a MOPED can use bus / cycle lanes so can get access in cities where motorbikes / scooters can't go. Also you can legally park in cycle bays. Paul h Riding in bus lanes only applies if signage allows, you can use cycle ways if it forms part of the public highway. i.e not a shared pedestrian/ cycleway. |
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mylittletony
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Aug 28, 2014 13:51:36 GMT
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I just think it is silly that i am allowed to ride moped on a full driving licence but i am limited to 30. What the hell do they think i am going to do if i go faster?? I agree that 30mph can be dangerous, but it's more the classification rather than adults being limited to 30mph. i.e. because you are a grown up and had some experience of road use (because you passed your test a while back) you are deemed responsible to use what is in effect a powered bicycle with no extra training. This classification is also open to 16yr olds who should rightly be restricted (legally) to 30mph, hence the problem... You have the option of a 'safer' 125 with a day's practise, they don't. If you were to derestrict, a policeman wouldn't look twice at a sensible adult doing 45mph along a 60mph road on a scooter that could be a legal 125cc underneath (vespa et4 for example) for all he knows. On the other hand, if you are clearly a whipper-snapper popping wheelies everywhere on a lairy scoot, then yes you would get pulled. |
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LowStandards
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Aug 28, 2014 13:52:16 GMT
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I ride my moped in a 50 limit all the time, I just put myself where people can only overtake when it is clear to do so, I've yet to be killed.
I'm riding on a full car license, so 50cc only, 30mph, no L's etc
I have factory derestricted mine, it looks completely standard but will now do 40mph which I deem a lot safer than 30mph. I have passed many a copper and they don't bat an eyelid. It cost me about £3 to do, is was simply a case of cutting the restrictive cone out the exhaust and cutting off the scavenge pipe that stops the 2 stroke thing doing its, err, thing properly. Then I shoved a £3 bigger jet in the carb to keep the fuelling as it should be.
I also love being slow, it lets you take it all in, its actually a pleasure to commute
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