Clement
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I love show threads. I've been guilty of really liking some and not reacting, answering, or just showing appreciation. One thing I've noted when VAG started showing Wörthersee specials recently, is that the first thought was "can't wait to see DarrenW's thread about it". I was blown away by the last time you did one, so much wor to put it all together.
I'll try to think about getting to car shows more (I barely ever do), or just taking more pics of cool old cars I see in the streets. I don't want the show threads to die!
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fred
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WTF has happened to all the Vennies?
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I seem to be one of few neanderthals not on Facebook, but there's a good reason for that. It's hateful. And so tedious to find anything beyond other people's pointless and humdrum daily minutae that I'd rather coat myself in spam and spend a night in Battersea Home for Psychotic Ex-fighting Dogs than spend my time trawling through endless pages of drivel to find the one nugget of worthwhile content. If a company seemed to soley rely on Facebook for customer interface and advertising then that would be enough to guarantee they wouldn't be getting my custom on the grounds of being so lazy, shoddy and unaccountable they deserve their business to fail. Add to that the idea that anything hosted on Facebook irretreviably becomes Facebook's property, including the copyright on photographs and it'd take some seriously tenacious and industrious elephants to drag me on there. Instagram; heard of it, CBA. Me no understand, to be honest; when a perfectly good method of sharing cool photos and stories in context with like-minded individuals already exists in the shape of car forums, why use a slightly less good method in a far worse format? Yeah, it might reach a slightly wider audience but let's be honest, most Facebook inhabitants are unmoderated, uninhibited, braying retards who you'd go out of your way to avoid in any real-world social situation. So where's the appeal in sharing content way above their paygrade? EDIT to say I think the LIKE button was a good idea in some contexts, but maybe to the cost of interactive threads. Ironically, it was probably at its best on the NRNR thread. Is it possible to add it selectively? I guess that'd be a massive amount of unwelcome work for long-suffering admin, though Only luckyseven could furnish my thoughts way better than I could, as above hugely I too find FB hideous
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'79 Cossie ran Cortina - Sold
2000 Fozzer 2.0 turbo snow beast
'85 Opel Manta GSI - Sold
03 A class Mercedes
Looking for a FD Ventora - Anyone?
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luckyseven
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Owning sneering dismissive pedantry since 1970
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Where are the show threads??luckyseven
@luckyseven
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For example, at the last Goodwood breakfast club, my car of the day was a perfect open top Austin A35 but I would second guess most on here would be left cold by it. Saw your Trumpet in the parking field but it'd gone by the time we got back, so I didn't get a chance to get any pics, sorry dude. Thanks for your kind words, though *blushes*. I think I have a few pics of that Austin, coming soon to a thread near you, lol. Who'd have thought that primer grey and red vinyl would work so well? Only luckyseven could furnish my thoughts way better than I could, as above hugely I too find FB hideous Glad to be of service
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g40jon
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I used to do a thread for pretty much every show I went to, but I kind of got fed up of spending hours editing the pics, uploading them, then making a thread only for it to get hardly any views, no replies and a few 'likes' from some kind folk. Now all my pics go on my facebook page for my friends and family to see what I have been up to and that's about it. I've become a bit bored with car show photography and going to car shows in general anyhow, and rarely go to them these days.
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Where are the show threads??fr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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There is part of me that is tempted to put together a dedicated car photo sharing site and integrate it into forums (e.g. check box select photos and generate a BBCode thread of links etc.). Funnily enough I use THRLL (A car-build based social media site) for that as you can upload photos (from PC or mobile) into your build thread and then copying and pasting works straight into a forum.
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I seem to be one of few neanderthals not on Facebook, but there's a good reason for that. It's hateful. And so tedious to find anything beyond other people's pointless and humdrum daily minutae that I'd rather coat myself in spam and spend a night in Battersea Home for Psychotic Ex-fighting Dogs than spend my time trawling through endless pages of drivel to find the one nugget of worthwhile content. If a company seemed to soley rely on Facebook for customer interface and advertising then that would be enough to guarantee they wouldn't be getting my custom on the grounds of being so lazy, shoddy and unaccountable they deserve their business to fail. Add to that the idea that anything hosted on Facebook irretreviably becomes Facebook's property, including the copyright on photographs and it'd take some seriously tenacious and industrious elephants to drag me on there. Instagram; heard of it, CBA. Me no understand, to be honest; when a perfectly good method of sharing cool photos and stories in context with like-minded individuals already exists in the shape of car forums, why use a slightly less good method in a far worse format? Yeah, it might reach a slightly wider audience but let's be honest, most Facebook inhabitants are unmoderated, uninhibited, braying retards who you'd go out of your way to avoid in any real-world social situation. So where's the appeal in sharing content way above their paygrade? EDIT to say I think the LIKE button was a good idea in some contexts, but maybe to the cost of interactive threads. Ironically, it was probably at its best on the NRNR thread. Is it possible to add it selectively? I guess that'd be a massive amount of unwelcome work for long-suffering admin, though LIKE. And to add some worthwhile feedback: The first couple of show reports I did on the trips over to the RRG and what I saw there were always very well received. Then as years went on, the replies got less and less. As someone else said, it's not like I need praise for some internet photos to boost my ego, but it is nice to know that someone appreciates the effort, the pictures, the words if you put any. At the end of the day the photos are shared so that others can enjoy them too, and if nobody says that they enjoy them then really it's a waste of time. People are social and it makes them (us) feel good to be appreciated, wanted, applauded, etc and so part of the reason that people stop doing it is if that isn't going on. I don't think a separate section is the answer. Neither is this facebook-like cross-pollenation thing. Please, the less facebook we have on here the better. Or anywhere, for that matter. More encouragement for the likes of the poster above that said he felt inadequate - unless the pics are really, REALLY bad, they should feel able to and appreciated if they post a show 'report'. The general standard of the content is slipping. But then, this discussion occurs once every six months or so and then gets better for a while, then dies down again. Nothing much to be done there except to boost the best posts, *maybe* delete more of the mundane curse word (I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not), and generally try to encourage towards a higher standard by means of leading posts. "How did you come to that decision" or "Where did you get your inspiration for that modification" etc. personally I don't post any much content any more, as genuinely I'm trying to spend more time actually building the things, but just as an experiment I might try and start a proper old discussion&picture thread later on and see where it goes, and see if it forms any kind of a barometer into what people are doing with the forum and so on. Can't be any worse than some of the other drivel I've posted.
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I'm not sure if in reality, the mix of stuff has changed, as much as the types of cars that get covered on here are just less and less interesting to me, as they tend to get further and further away from my retro era. I do think there has been a gradual drift to more modern, late 80's stuff... which I think could be rectified a little as well, I like the mix on www.blenheimgang.com and may use this as a bit of a blueprint for eras/mix of stuff I post
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Where are the show threads??fr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Something that would make it easier for me to post photos and I guess others would be to enable the image attachment in the tapatalk app if possible?
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adam73bgt
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Where are the show threads??adam73bgt
@adam73bgt
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I'm not sure if in reality, the mix of stuff has changed, as much as the types of cars that get covered on here are just less and less interesting to me, as they tend to get further and further away from my retro era. I do think there has been a gradual drift to more modern, late 80's stuff... which I think could be rectified a little as well, I like the mix on www.blenheimgang.com and may use this as a bit of a blueprint for eras/mix of stuff I post This may be down to younger people joining the forum and posting possibly? Being 22 myself, stuff from the 80s and early 90s still feels retro to me as well as all the older stuff before it so I tend to post stuff from the slightly later eras. This is partly also due to me not having a clue about some of the much older stuff Disclaimer: Not trying to start a what is retro thing, just stating my view.
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Everyone's cars are either being restored or just broken maybe hence not getting to any shows ... Joking aside tho I'm also in the minority in terms of hating the likes of Facebook and suchlike because its such a breeding ground for mongs and general idiots posting a picture of a stick man for eg and seeing how many likes its gets FFs !!! So can't comment on that one , but I will go on to say maybe its just a combination of things ,poor economy as everyone's having to tighten the ol purse strings so to say and not getting to the shows themselves ? I know personally some shows I will go take camera and go wild we're as some others I go to I don't as like to spend the day physically and mentally absorbing the show itself without the hassle and distraction of taking lots of pics ! Don't really think its necessarily the forum is doing anything wrong or needs to change as since joining personally it always came across as a tightnit community forum and still does to me and is certainly part of the appeal to users like myself But as a forum grows in size as I'm sure this one is then people become detached from one another and that spirit starts to dwindle slightly Maybe look into having area reps that can organized local run outs,meets and get together s to help on others projects etc ? In each local area At least it will promote pics and stuff being posted Not gonna happen overnight obviously but feel it would certainly help in respects to keeping the boards alive with both pics and posts aswell ..... I try and contribute as much as possible on here like others do but when it comes to pics and my own projects sadly I'm quite private ,partly due to personal reasons but in reality maybe its time I started contributing more that way but with so many projects I have and very limited time feel its not worth it as would be a very slow thread
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Interestingly I had a look around for some photos from Dubmania/Retromania and found it hard to find any, even on normal photo sharing platforms and I know they had a bunch of people there and are popular shows. Maybe people just don't bother with events photographs so much now, outside of the people who make it their mission (blogs, journos, photography buffs).
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Where are the show threads??DarrenW
@darrenw
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Interestingly I had a look around for some photos from Dubmania/Retromania and found it hard to find any, even on normal photo sharing platforms and I know they had a bunch of people there and are popular shows. Maybe people just don't bother with events photographs so much now, outside of the people who make it their mission (blogs, journos, photography buffs). There's a set here if you didn't see it: www.flickr.com/photos/123665397@N07/sets/72157645002859794But the Flickr search seems to be increasingly flaky, and there could well be loads more hidden away that aren't tagged or organised into albums.
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Seth
South East
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I'm a bit late to this party but have given it a (little) bit of thought. I take photos at car shows because I like taking photos. I always did, though will admit to taking more in this digital age than when I had to pay for films and developing. In those days they would basically be just for me to look at so it is nice to be able to share pictures so readily since 'the internet' .
I enjoy looking through other people's threads as even at an event I've been to there are always things I have missed be they cars or viewpoints. Good photography helps but shouldn't be seen as the be all and end all.
I don't understand why Photobucket is seen as being bad. Works perfectly well for me and does what I want it to. I am very glad I didn't migrate anywhere else (flickr? which everyone said was brilliant?!) when P-bucket played around a year or two back. Paying for space there means I no longer spend quite so long trawling through the hundreds of images I've no doubt captured over a weekend to pick out the best 50 or so to upload. I tend to upload far more than I used to (which seems to take no time at all) and then just pick some almost at random to post, along with a link to the album for anyone interested enough to go and look.
The like button on the forum probably has reduced some people's likelihood of actually posting comments. Personally speaking I chose to very rarely use it - RRs spirit when it came to show/photo threads was always about picking something out that took your fancy and commenting on it, maybe helping out with the identity of something unusual or going and finding more photos of the same/similar. Maybe these things are much more difficult with the small mobile devices I avoid. I have completely failed to grasp the recent flickr changes which is a shame as it is somewhere I would sometimes go and look for things but it seems to me that even if you find something it is unlikely I can post it to the forum.
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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EmDee
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Committer of Autrocities.
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Where are the show threads??EmDee
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Facebook is only as good as the people you are friends with and the pages you follow. Anyone who hates it and says it's full of bigots and morons should spend some more time figuring out how it works (and culling their stupid mates) and they will see the benefits immediately. A few of my friends have said to me how much they hate it and then when they see my news feed they're amazed that its just full of awesome cars and funny/interesting stuff. Even if you don't know anyone at all you can have an account that follows/likes stuff like low DDRs and italian muscle cars etc etc and your news feed will immediately look awesome!
Anyway, I miss the like button on here. It didn't shut me up, I still commented far too much, but it was nice to show a little appreciation without spamming a thread and filling it with comments. Particularly with build threads - I just want to see posts from the OP in those if I'm honest.
The good news is that show season is upon us and I'm sure we'll see a massive increase soon enough. Players Goodwood and Bromley Pageant make this weekend alone a potential gold mine of epic threadery.
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bstardchild
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Where are the show threads??bstardchild
@bstardchild
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The like button on the forum probably has reduced some people's likelihood of actually posting comments. Personally speaking I chose to very rarely use it - RRs spirit when it came to show/photo threads was always about picking something out that took your fancy and commenting on it, maybe helping out with the identity of something unusual or going and finding more photos of the same/similar. Maybe these things are much more difficult with the small mobile devices I avoid. I'm with Seth on this one, and I know the "Like" appears to have gone awol I did wonder if it was left in play it could be linked to bump the post (like a contribution to the thread would do) JM2pW
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But... But... But... How can I possibly know if folk like my thread without a like button? Nowadays it's probably easyer to take a photo with a smart phone, load it to instagram and forget about it. After all - posting pictures in a forum takes time and you need to push buttons, type a bit of text, add BBcode - I imagine doing this pon a telephone is a boring, tedious task. I have said it elsewhere before and I'm saying it again in this place: smart phones are the end of our culture! Think about it... I'm not explaining why that is. Another factor is, I've simply stopped going to local shows. Very, very few new cars appear. There are awesome cars, yes. But after you've seen them 2-3 times an nothing else, the sensation starts to wear off. And the new gneration of show-attendants with they'r plastic clad VWs and Opels - sorry, not my cup of tea. But isnc it's way too hot to do anything - I might sort out some pics from past shows... Cheers, Jan
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Samage
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Well, much like some others who have commented, I do try and post show pic threads when I can. I don't get to as many as I used to, though. I do *sometimes* get a little disheartened when a thread sinks with a couple of replies (or on occasion, no replies at all), but I'm not in it for the attention so I don't let it bother me too much. The threads usually gather plenty of *views*, so I know people are at least seeing (and possibly enjoying) the photos. Also, many of my show threads tend to be VW-centric, and I know they're not to everyone's taste.
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Ryannn
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Facebook is only as good as the people you are friends with and the pages you follow. Anyone who hates it and says it's full of bigots and morons should spend some more time figuring out how it works (and culling their stupid mates) and they will see the benefits immediately. This. Nice to see there's now an almost 500% increase in show threads lol
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Where are the show threads??fr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Facebook is only as good as the people you are friends with and the pages you follow. Anyone who hates it and says it's full of bigots and morons should spend some more time figuring out how it works (and culling their stupid mates) and they will see the benefits immediately. This. Nice to see there's now an almost 500% increase in show threads lol Due to the success of this thread I'm going to start a thread titled "Where are all the concourse retros for sale at £1000 threads"
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Ryannn
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*like*
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