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May 17, 2007 13:11:44 GMT
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Looks good, well done to all concerned! Be interested to see if we get any interest from it. Perhaps I’ll sell my 240K for £2500 so someone thinks they’re getting a bargain… Naaah the article was all bout how little money we spend on our rides.  jolly pain in the backside! What fool told them that? I’ll quote that to Mrs SL next time we discuss my cars “Look, it says in Max Power that these are cheap”. Edit: My first time being caught by the swear filter! Wasn’t so long ago that Max Power couldn’t be said out loud here… |
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May 17, 2007 13:19:02 GMT
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jolly pain in the backside! What fool told them that? The fool that believes we all drive budget rides apparently  Still.. nice to be represented in more mainstream magazines.. nice photos, top cars.. great guys .. all good. |
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May 17, 2007 14:35:19 GMT
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They are budget rides aren't they? In terms of money spent vs. coolness the value factor is huge!
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May 17, 2007 14:42:38 GMT
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They are budget rides aren't they? In terms of money spent vs. coolness the value factor is huge! Not to go too far off track with this,.. but I said at the time that I thought the retro scene would end up being represented by budget rides,.. but where were the cars like Brians Squareback or Red Victor 1 or Df's Triumph, or Uncobra, or any one of a number of bigger budget rides? If "we resepect cars built with thought, not cash" where were the high end cars? Do they not have thought gone into them... if cash doesn't come into the equation? If I earn more money and spend more money on my car am I suddenly not part of the scene? |
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May 17, 2007 15:07:10 GMT
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Typically i agree with rmad's point there, even RV1 has been built in the real world and with a budget i guess and its the fastest! surely its only when you are buying exotic or over priced classics it stops being cheap. afterall we are wombling recycling mad scientists.   |
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May 17, 2007 15:08:06 GMT
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I shall have to try find a copy in little ol' NZ!
I also didn't see this thread until now.. it's 7 pages long, shocking. I'll give myself a slap.
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May 17, 2007 15:20:47 GMT
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It is about budget cars, they're just cool budget cars. I think that's the backbone of this scene, to be honest - buy something for little money, gradually spend cash as and when you can and, in the future, make a great car out of something that would ordinarily be thrown away/run into the ground/look a bit rubbish.
There's no shame in having something great that didn't cost you the earth, in fact, it's far cooler - what's going to turn your head? A 240K slammed on its ars e with Work Equip 01's and a clean paintjob or a brand new Merc SEL?
I can see what you're saying about RV1 but it's a pro-street car. It's one of the best pro-street cars in the world but maybe 4% of people on this forum have the resources to build such a thing.
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May 17, 2007 15:23:00 GMT
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To quote Adam/Simon (whoever actually said it, I don't know. Mainly because it was attributed to two people...)
'We build cars with thought, not cash.'
I think that sums up what owning a retro car is all about.
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May 17, 2007 16:18:59 GMT
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Let me illustrate what I'm trying to say,.. and then leave it at that. These  Are  Not  Budget Rides  But  Are  As  Much  A  Part  Of  The  Scene  As  This  Everyone go buy the magazine, its great we continue to be in print |
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May 17, 2007 17:06:41 GMT
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Well maybe we sould blame the guy who selected 6 'budget' rides for the feature!  |
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May 17, 2007 17:14:23 GMT
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point taken, but theres still a lot of value for money in oldies, not for long though if it does get fashionable!  |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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May 17, 2007 17:22:44 GMT
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Do you know what? They are budget rides...sure Brian's involved the death of a Porsche , but in every case there's a lot of thought in them. Even if they spent enough to buy a Lambo or a Zonda...that fact that they didn't means that there's more than money on the table here. |
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May 17, 2007 18:43:06 GMT
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lets get over trying to fit the scene and just enjoy our cars! and on the most part, retros are budget! my car cost £200. A brand new 1.3 coupe costs, £9,000. Hence, budget/cheap. I don't care. If someone has the money to build a real cool ride then great. I'll love it. But I also like cars built to a budget. FavorAt springs to mind. In my view, this here retro "scene" is gonna be ruined if people feel pressured to prove they are spending money and are thus "hip". I thought the retro idea was all about getting away from consumerism and image! |
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May 17, 2007 18:50:11 GMT
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We don't want people pressurised into not spending money either. As has been said many times, it's about cool old cars.
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May 17, 2007 19:39:09 GMT
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We don't want people pressurised into not spending money either. As has been said many times, it's about cool old cars. my point... I know you know what I mean .. A cars budget doesn't come into it,.. weather you spent £50 or £500,000 .. if your car is cool then its cool. No inverse snobbery please. Only reason I raise the issue was because when quizzed about it I said that I'd like to see the full range of cars in the scene represented as this is a big chance to represent what we do to a wide selection of new people that may be interested.. the response I got was this: Never trust a journalist |
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May 17, 2007 20:46:12 GMT
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To be honest mine and diff's cars (atleast) are hardly 'budget'
We mearly said when interviewed that its not about how much money you spend its about the thought that goes into it, which dosent imply that its all about 'budget' cars at all it just means we build cars with spanners and welders not a catalogue and credit cars which is an important point!.
When i was asked 'why have a retro' one of the main factors is because they are alot more affordable than newer cars! We had to get that across to people imo cous for some reason 90% of the motoring public are brainwashed to think its just the oppisite!
My personal oppinion is that high budget cars are not relly what retro motoring is all about and I'm happy that that was made clear. No one said they were excluded.
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May 17, 2007 23:49:52 GMT
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I agree with Slater, I think with retro cars it is more about imagination than money. When modifying something like a Sapporo, you can't order a car tuning catalogue and look under the Sapporo section to see what parts are available, then buy what you can afford. Money obviously helps things along, but steel wheels from a scrapyard can be cooler than mega fancy split rims, a stock engine with homemade modifications can be cooler than a straight engine swap, a cheap car can be cooler than an expensive car..... and the other way round!
The fact that money doesn't dominate the scene makes it a great one to be in - one minute we can be admiring a £50K race car, the next a £100 Volvo slammed on steels. I love the lack of snobbery - it's all about you doing what you feel suits the car best, rather than a running total of who can afford the most fancy parts, or a scene where everyone tends to have largely identical cars with largely identical modifications and aspires to have all the same things. It extends to skill levels too - though there are a lot of people who are experts at assembling engines, said people don't seem to look down on those who can only really do an oil change.
If the article inspires just a few people to do something interesting with a car, it was worth it!
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May 17, 2007 23:57:32 GMT
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Lads i just read the mag (buying it was more embarrassing than buying a porno!) and i think the cars looked great. Fair play to all involved. As for this 'cheap/budget' thing....who cares what it cost - they look just as interesting as the bentley feature and look at the money thrown at it. Slater summed it up above that high value/budget cars are not excluded....i for one would love to have balls of cash in vaults but i don't - if i did i would still be buying retro cars and modifying them.
The pictures in the mag looked the dart - go team!
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I saw the mag today in Asda but I was genuinely too afraid to buy it. I will find a way round it, though. Not like me to be bothered about my image.
Someone should set up an account on eBay and sell each month's issues with a pound added on as "private listings", they'd make a mint.
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