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Apr 25, 2007 11:14:55 GMT
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Funny you say that because I guess like 15 years ago maybe some shows were like that. Thing is a few years ago we accidentally gate crashed the "Morris Picnic". Now I had a Moggie Minor at the time and so we bowled up and parked up and there was almost nobody there (it was at a stately home somewhere we'd sort of seen as we were passing) anyway about 20 mins later a parade of vintage Morris stuff mostly 1920s rolls in and parks up and all these straw boater types get Jeeves to fetch thier picnic out of the Bentley... Next think is a Dan Cruickshank sound-a-like strolls up, introduces himself as Lord Suchandsuch of Someplace, event organiser... and I kinda expect him to set the dogs on us, but he seemed genuinely interested in the little Minor (my daily of the time) and asked if we had a "pre1930s Morris" to which I said we did not, so he told me a bit about their cars, pointing out some cars of specific interest like one which was the only surviving example, one which did the Peking Rally, one which was a special coachbuiolt something and all that. Said "lovely to see the more modern ones being looked after too" and wandered off as Lady Perigrine-Snotworthy had the Pims on the go. Was a totally cool event after all. And my '62 was the newest car by like 30 or 40 years LOL. We got a toot toot and a wave off by some 80 year old duchess type in a big hat and a brass nosed Oxford when we left.
people make dumb comments at all shows / events. Even if you have the shinyest oldest car there you'll find some divot with something dumb to say about it.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 25, 2007 11:34:05 GMT
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Good article
In fact your last paragraph just about sums up what I was trying to explain.
Cheers
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Apr 25, 2007 12:06:27 GMT
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Which is why I don't really do shows any more. I do autojumbles and "events" such as various stuff at the pod/shakey.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 25, 2007 13:04:49 GMT
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Which is why I don't really do shows any more. I do autojumbles and "events" such as various stuff at the pod/shakey. And RR07?? |
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Apr 25, 2007 13:20:21 GMT
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^^^^ 300 miles last year driving to and from shows... thats it... thats all its used for... does it make me a bad person? Not really, I mean at least you acctually drive it at some point. If it never gets out onto the road then it's not fulfilling the purpose of its design and therefore cannot be classed as a car! The point of building something that nice and not even having a working engine inside it just baffles me totally, I mean technically speaking at that point it should be classed as a Soap Box racer! |
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Apr 25, 2007 13:55:37 GMT
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Which is why I don't really do shows any more. I do autojumbles and "events" such as various stuff at the pod/shakey. And RR07?? naturally. Its more than just a static show isn't it? A bunch of cars in a field with old guys and tartan rugs I can do without really. |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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richy
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Apr 25, 2007 13:59:31 GMT
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I don't do shows at all now - as some of you know, I've a '32 Model B which is almost entirely original - bar the bottom-half Valspar brush paint job done in 1959. Thing is I've had some much gyp about "be great when you restore it mate" or, even worse "it's criminal you leaving it like that" that I've given up going to shows.
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Apr 25, 2007 14:02:28 GMT
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Worth being at the RR07 show richy it will be ace, we'll all be driving in some controversial pieces!  we've all got unique crazy cars, similarly check out santa pod retro show, it'll be a hoot even if not as good as last year.  |
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Apr 25, 2007 14:09:36 GMT
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I don't do shows at all now - as some of you know, I've a '32 Model B which is almost entirely original - bar the bottom-half Valspar brush paint job done in 1959. Thing is I've had some much gyp about "be great when you restore it mate" or, even worse "it's criminal you leaving it like that" that I've given up going to shows. Theres a guy round here with either a British Salmsonor a Railton which he daily drives in the summer, used to work near where I used to live, anyway that think was brush paint touched up and the laminated windows were delaminating and all but it was awesome to see it on the road. 1000x cooler than a molly coddled never see-the-rain resto. Not seen it on the road for a year or two so I feart its is beeing stripped of its character as we speak. Probably worth a fortune "done up" but the historic value is negligible compared to how it stands now. If its not deteriorating then its all good. |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 25, 2007 15:05:20 GMT
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If its not deteriorating then its all good. That's the key point - sometimes you reach a stage where it's either run it into the ground, or renovate / restore. |
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Apr 25, 2007 15:49:49 GMT
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I don't do shows at all now - as some of you know, I've a '32 Model B which is almost entirely original - bar the bottom-half Valspar brush paint job done in 1959. Thing is I've had some much gyp about "be great when you restore it mate" or, even worse "it's criminal you leaving it like that" that I've given up going to shows. Thats f*&kin ridiculous. Not that its on a par at all but my mini used to get gyp. yeah its good that, when you gonna sort the rust? it's dying. Erm, feck off, its fine thankyou. My pennies go on the bits that keep it on the road and make it go better  so what if it has scratches and dents. I love it. I hate concourse, not for the people, and not for the idea of it (though like everyone else here, driving is preferred) but I just hate the comments when your car isnt as 'good' as theirs cos its muddy and it doesn't have the right grill. Thats said, I've never entered anything into concourse ;D but I've still had comments when mines been on show. |
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richy
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Apr 25, 2007 16:07:38 GMT
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Ta for all yr kind words mateys! The B's sitting in a barn at the mo', minus MoT, and I really ought to get round to digging it out. The last remark about being "criminal" did it for me - dunno why, I'm old enough, ugly enough and usually opinionated enough to give as good as I get, but for some reason hearing taht made me think 'why do I bother?' Stupid really...
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Apr 25, 2007 19:55:19 GMT
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;)If someone wants to spend endless amounts of time pampering a car they aren't intending to drive then that's fair enough. It's not what I'd choose to do, but they aren't hurting anyone so why slate them? My opinion is simple...mind your own business! [with the greatest of respect.  ] |
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Seth
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Apr 25, 2007 20:19:33 GMT
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It seems my view is shared with others. I don't have a problem with show-only cars but they must be treated as static designed objects/sculpture until they prove otherwise. I could never own one as personally I love to drive them as well as build/repair/fix. I don't think I'd want something I was scared of using.
On the concourse restoration topic I too enjoy seeing a perfectly restored car like the pristine Herald that was at Brooklands because they become a remider of how things were when new. "Better then new" restorations such as the cars given a Pebble Beach makeover do jar with me a bit though as a car can loose some of the intricacies and foibles that helped make it special in the first place and it can no longer be used as a reference for future restorations.
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Apr 25, 2007 22:19:20 GMT
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inoffensive post coming... I don't like trailer queens. why, I hear you cry? a car is designed to be used. so those 'cars' up there, they are in some ways nice - not to my taste, but the pro-street stuff is. but they are not 'cars'. as design pieces they are lovely, gorgeous, inspiring. unless it drives though, and I mean at more than tonka truck speed, it aint really fulfilling the purpose of a car's design. thus, an automotive design showpiece is nice. a used car is nice. an unused piece of auto design that isnt driven on-road effectively isnt a car, just a self propelled museum exhibit. and its much, much worse when the designer purports this piece of solid billet as a 'car' when clearly it is not capable of 13mph and a turning circle less that 144ft. I think a large part of this stems from being in a vintage car club since like forever. its one of those clubs that takes inexplicably rare ancient old cars, barrels them round shody irish roads and bounce them up 40% inclines in the mud. for fun. and then go and stick our noses up at the 'concours' cars that are pampered when I'm sure the little Swallows spirit is quietly whispering.. please... I just want to drive... do you's get me? |
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I know what you're saying suprisingskoda,.. but you seem to be willfully ignoring the following point made by Nightmares : now they are nice they have all the correct proprtions and can be driven if you so want to infact most of them will get driven once they have done their curcuit of the shows for a couple of years So as far as you are concerned they are not a car for their first two years or so of life... Then they become a car..?? I'm assuming that to you most large car collections arn't cars because they don't get driven from one end of the year to the next ?? |
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we've all got unique crazy cars, similarly check out santa pod retro show, it'll be a hoot even if not as good as last year. 
so what if it has scratches and dents. I love it. 
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