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Apr 20, 2007 23:05:39 GMT
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There's no point though trying to sell it to someone who doesn't want it. And they know as soon as they turn up that they don't want it but feel they're being polite by going through the motions. Newsflash - you're just wasting time!
I tried to sell my polo to a young lass who saw it in the local paper.... turned up and pretty much turned her nose up at it (think she thought it was a mk4, when it was on a K reg....!) but still wanted to drive it, her boyfriend was lifting carpets and looking at sills whilst she just wandered around looking bored. Then have the balls to give you the 'oh we've got something else to look at before we leave a deposit'.
The next guys to turn up had a slammed G60 Mk2 Golf and were just looking for a winter driver. Would have probably bought it without seeing it!
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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IS IT ME OR arthurbrown
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Apr 20, 2007 23:14:21 GMT
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Then there are the ones who are TOO keen.
When I sold my Mk3 Astra, after weeks of f*cktards a guy calls me up, says he wants to see it. Arrives half an hour early, and of course having sat in the garage for 2 months it would not start. So I jump it off my van while he mumbles to his colleague.
Next thing he is thrusting the full asking price in my hand.
Super.
"I'll just nip in and get the FULLY STAMPED service history" says I
"Not bothered" says he
"Well at least let me write you a reciept for the cash" says I
"No bother" says he.
Odd.
When I sold the car it had a whopping 159,000 miles on the clock. But was still pretty much immaculate, no wear on the seats, zero rust, still ran beautifully.
Next week, I spied it in one of those supermarket 'free-ads' car papers. "Only 60,000 miles from new, £1295"
C-nt.
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A few years ago I got given a Renault, I think it was a 25? But it had been top of the range 10 years earlier. It'd didn't have Tax or MOT and needed a battery. I duly went and bought a brand new battery (£32) and took it for an MOT. It failed on a couple of minor bits and a bit of welding that I didn't have enough cash at the time to get done. So I drove it home and parked it outside.
A couple of days later I saw someone looking very closely at the car. Curious, I asked them what they wanted - they said that they were from the council and were looking for untaxed cars. (This was before the council had given permits to remove untaxed cars to anyone with a recovery truck! I explained (very nicely) the situation and that I'd be getting the car sorted out very shortly. "If it's here in a week, we'll be back to take it away and you'll get done by the DVLA."
So it goes into Loot for about £80 ono. I had two no-shows and then I did get a genuine call. I explained that it was an MOT failure, that it had no Tax, and read through the MOT failure sheet over the 'phone. They guy still seemed interested and came with his mate to view it the next day. Did I mention his thick Oirish accent?
They turned up and asked a couple of bits about the car. I told them about the new battery to which they asked if I still had the receipt (which I had). They then took it on a test drive, driving twice round the block on the clutch and then telling me that the burning that I could smell was because the clutch was on it's way out. When we got out I said "Look do you want it or not?"
"Do you think it will get to Birmingham?" came the reply. "Er, I'd guess. But it's got no MOT or Tax and I really wouldn't recommend that you drive it that far without them" "Ah look, the most that we can give you is £20. Sorry but that's all we think it's worth." "Make it £50 and it's yours" "£35" Reluctantly knowing that I only had a day before the return of the council I agreed. I got them to fill out the V5 (which I sent off that day.)
As I walked out to the car with them after filling out the paperwork the buyer turns to me and said "I don't think it's got enough petrol to get to Birmingham, do you think you could lend us £30?" Dowhatyoulikeys - don't you just luv'em.
I declined but pointed out that they could probably take the battery back to where I'd got it from and buy a second hand one for a tenner somewhere. This seemed to solve their dilema and they drove off.
15 minutes later a guy that had been supposed to turn up the day before turned up and asked if I still had the car!
Arrrrrrgh.
I have other stories but if I type any more my fingers will fall off!
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Last Edit: Apr 21, 2007 0:12:19 GMT by Unimexsol
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stealthstylz
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IS IT ME OR stealthstylz
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When I sold my 106 GTi engined S2 Rallye I had a curse word come to look at it who didnt want it as he wanted a standard 106 GTi engined rallye not a tuned one lol.
Eventually sold it to a 16 year old muppet who expected that he could insure it for his first car, and just handed me over the cash without checking anything lol. The car was all legal, but I bought it off one of my mates, who is a rather unsavoury character (ex drug dealer). My record was that I got stopped and searched 25 times in a week. Used to hand a wad of producers in every week lol.
Matt
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It's definately NOT just you Thames. If you want to see an advanced state-of-the-art level of muppetry try listing vehicles on eBay. The amount of vacuous pond life that marauds the place now is incomprehensible. I'll give you a genuine example: I list a van on there. Listing clearly states more than once `non runner and non starter` (plus the usual about winning bidder's responsibilty to get the van taken away because it doesn'`t start or run). What do you know some complete curse word from about 220 miles away wins the listing. Sends me his phone number and asks me to call which I did. Here`s how the convo went: Him: OK, I'll get the train up on my own on Wednesday. Me: Sure but how are you going to get it back? Him: I'll drive it back. Me (smelling stupid): How are you going to do that then, it doesn't start or run? Him: Just charge the battery up and it will be ok. Me (totally bewildered): How does that work then? The pump has is suspect and it will not start-AS DESCRIBED ON EBAY. Him: (and this my favourite bit): Everyone knows that if a vehicle won't start you charge the battery up and it will run. Once I'd finished laughing I gav up with him and said he'd need to get it towed or put on a truck and tried to help him with some ideas. He then hangs up and reports me to Paypal who froze the money. What he didn't know though was that Paypal do NOT refund for motor vehicles under the SNAD system (seriously not as decribed) so I got my money. I sent the V5 to Swansea unsigned by new owner with a copy of the eBay listing and they sent the V5 off in his name. I then sent him the keys and the paperwork and the van sat here for months. It's gone now so he must have had it collected, God alone knows what that cost him
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filmidget
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I sent the V5 to Swansea unsigned by new owner with a copy of the eBay listing and they sent the V5 off in his name. I then sent him the keys and the paperwork and the van sat here for months. It's gone now so he must have had it collected, God alone knows what that cost him Harsh, but fair. And entertaining ;D
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'79 MG Midget 1500 - Still patiently awaiting attention '02 Vauxhall Astra 1.8 Elegance(!) - Better than you might think '03 Mazda MX5 - All new and shiny looking (thanks to Antony at Rust Republic) '09 Renault Clio - Needs to go.
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Apr 21, 2007 23:47:54 GMT
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id want my money back from payapl with "SNAD"!!!!! i've sold - erm, three cars. Seat Arosa, '03, 26ish-k, red, waxed religiously. starts - check. goes - check. £loadsa dosh? slightly more thanks. there. cheers dude, pick it up next week Pug 106, '95, 75664895956k, white, filthy. starts - check. engine is clean - no check. we forget about the v5? - erm, no check... take out CD player, give money, bye-bye lol Rover 820si, '92, 147k, BRgreen. starts - check. drives - check. PAS fluid topped up - done on spot - check. manifold heats up - check. lights, electrics, windows, tyres, filters...-check to the point where the fella took it for TWO ten minutes runs, removed the dizzy on my drive and rebuilt it (blocking me and himself in btw), roughly three hours, it got dark... will you have it tomorrow still? dunno, theres interest. can you take such and such? will if you take it with you, none of this deposit curse word. done. no knob-ends but all good at wasting my time. prefer to be on the other end, have never paid market price or close for anything. always get BIG lumps off too
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When I sold my old 2cv for £100 (the new shocks on it were worth that alone) it was left outside on a farm for over a year while the new owner decided what to do with it. So over a year later the new owner and her boyfirend begin to whinge about the state of a car they had brought over a year earlier for only £100, and had been left standing in a field!! It also annoyed the hell out of me that they broke up the engine in it, which was bloody excellent, because they needed a pushrod for one they were rebuilding!!
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a few years ago i sold the wifes lupo gti and a little indian guy turned up for a look,with half of bangladesh in tow.how many people does it take to buy a car anyway? turns out my little flip flop wearing friend was buying it for his daughters 17th birthday pressie, i thought he was a little mad as i struggled to afford the insurance and i was twice her age,any hoo, he must have thought he was some sort of jedi master as he kept offering me a grand less than my lowest price (and £1500 less than the asking price) everytime he offered me the money he held out his hand,stared me right in the eye and said "i give you 10 grand" followed by "you take 10grand,good offer you take" so this went of for 10 mins or so with me shaking my head and telling him no repeatedly,then he tries to tell me that he found another lupo gti locally at a dealer that has leather and aircon for 10 grand ,turns out i was working there at the time and we didnt so i told him so ,and then we get the usual ,stonehips,scratcehes ,scuffs etc so i politely asked him to point them out and he couldnt,so i gave him my ultimatum "11k or sod off" and went to go back indoors when he changes his mind and coughs up.btw how do you get 7 people in a honda accord? he wouldnt tell me. ;D
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Apr 22, 2007 13:21:45 GMT
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The best piece of advice I can give is to make the potential buyer fit in with your plans and let them do the running, if they want the car they will, don't agree to meet them anywhere and don't have them coming round if its not convenient and you`ve got other things you want to do - don't be afraid of losing a buyer, if they`ve got real interest they will be flexible and prepared to go to a little bit of effort to see the car.
The thing that makes all these idiots bearable for me is the fact that I am here anyway and if someone comes and makes a fool of themselves it is them who have travelled and made time, not me. Perfect example - last year a guy comes up from Wrexham to look at a 99(T) Fiat Bravo HGT 155 (the 5 cylinder one - right piece of kit actually) It was a good one, and it had just had the cambelt done which is an expensive job on these - which justified the price I thought. I took him for a drive in it and he liked it - he then offered me £1000, I had the car priced up at £1995..He said he could go to £1200, I said Ta-ta. I wasnt p*ssed off at all, I`d just had a lovely blast in what was effectively a Fiat Coupe with a Bravo bodyshell and he`d just wasted nearly a full day of his life! I felt a bit sorry for him if anything.
If possible see if you can have them view the car at your work - you could pretend to be going to the bog and if its a waster well at least you`ll have got out of work for 5 minutes and it wont have cut into your private life.
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Graham
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Apr 22, 2007 16:13:04 GMT
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thanks guys some great tails told cheered me up no end
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Apr 22, 2007 18:14:44 GMT
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A friend of mine back home once had some Volkswagen Rabbit Carbriolet (rabbit = north american golf) doors for sale. At the time they were worth about $100. Will knows the value of cars and parts so he was pretty firm on the price. Some dipsh*t comes by to look at the door and starts lowballing Will. He wouldn't offer more than $20. He really wanted them but he was just too cheap. He wouldn't go away either. Finally Will had had enough. He layed the doors out on his drive, jumped in his van and drove over them while the guy watched. Will gets out of the van and says to the stunned muppet,
"You wanted them for nothing, so go ahead, take them."
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1995 Range Rover 4.0 1995 BMW 320i Saloon 1989 BMW 325i Touring 1991 Mercedes 300TE-24 1991 Mercedes 190e 1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1966 Valiant 200 Custom 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon
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Apr 22, 2007 18:16:17 GMT
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QUALITY, thats the kind of direct action these cock-wads deserve to be party to.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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dugong
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One Of Us Will Live To Rue The Day We Met Each Other (Wire : 2008)
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Apr 22, 2007 21:28:44 GMT
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I concur with plums mrabody. Superb.
I've only ever sold one car in my life, my Ford Ka 3. I spent a couple of hundred quid at a body shop to sort the door out which got blown backwards on its hinges in a stiff wind.
Nicest Scouse couple ever turn up, her fella comes with me as she sits in the back, clearly loving it, he doesn't even notice it's down on power and has noisy tappets, after 5 minutes of tea and 'Wirral stereotype innit' hilarity bloke tells me and his lady love the car and will give me my asking price in cash there and then. curse word RESULT!
Bloke I bought the Amazon off was interesting, he did the absent minded old man routine quite well, but clearly knew them pretty well as he had three of the fuckers in his back garden. Thing is I had my mate Andy with me who is a: tight and b: Scottish.
We got it for a lot less than his asking price and I learned a load about buying a car in the process.
vicsmith must have the patience of a saint. I have similar experiences at work - one of my jobs is a studio manager, running the old YM studio in Crewe.
A bit off topic but my agreed figures \ people are in red, and what people said are in black. Here we go:
Choir: We'll have 5 people in the studio tommorrow 18 of the fuckers, plus the curse word bus driver turn up and start whinging that we won't give them a cup of tea. Yes, the two minute drive from the town centre must have been knackering, AND DO WE LOOK LIKE A FRIGGING CANTEEN?!
Me: A 8 track fully produced CD will be about £300 as there's about 20 hours work involved including the recording.
Bloke: I want it for £75 because that's what I was told (by some random I don't even know) and even that's too expensive.
Excuse me? What the curse word? I can earn more for 20 hours' work working at the goddamn Co Op! (which, incidentally, is my other job)
Friends have had curse word when buying a car. I've had inordinate amounts of curse word when selling stuff on eBay. One guy reported me to paypal when the postage for my item (which he was getting damn cheap anyway) turned out to be 50 p more than what I'd quoted, when he'd pretty much spent all of Sunday asking me idiotic questions and how much it'd be to post it.
My mate J had an old Citroen Xantia TD which he was selling very cheap... £75 if I remember rightly. Bloke comes round and offers him a tenner. J tells him to curse word off and the bloke calls him a prick. What did he expect, seriously?!
Same Andy from before went to buy a Senator in Glasgow. He looked round, pointed out the faults and haggled on a price with the vendor in full view of his other half, whom Andy suspected was a bit (a lot) under the thumb. Andy goes to the cashpoint, and on his way to the machine he notices two lads milling around who also wanted the car but missed their earlier appointment to go and see it. They offer this bloke's missus the full price rather than the negociated one, and they take the car before Andy gets back.
Needless to say Andy was not impressed when he got back from the cashpoint.
Finally when looking for a new car I went to try a TD Focus at the local garage. Dealer pokes round my 306 for a trade in, isn't impressed. I know the car isn't worth a lot, it had 135,000 miles and was a bit tired, but still serviceable. Get this, the dealer offers me £50. FIFTY curse word QUID.
I'd been polite and quiet up to this point, but after an hour of being told I couldn't try this and that on the test car I exploded:
Me: Sorry, that's a curse word insult. It's worth more in bits. Bloke: Sorry but I'm afraid that's all it's worth to us at auction. Me: curse word, someone in the office just wants a cheap runaround. Bloke: No mate, those 306 TDs are worthless, we couldn't shift it Me: Balls to this, that's the most curse word trade in I've ever been offered.
*Makes excuses and leaves*
Later I got £1000 for it. Arseholes.
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Apr 22, 2007 21:29:56 GMT
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No, it's not just you. There are prats like this all around. They boil my p1ss. I'm with Pog.
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jdmini
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Apr 22, 2007 21:40:16 GMT
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i sold the mini on the weekend, and it went to the nicest person..the bloke was really happy with it.
one potential buyer turned up, ragged the tits off it and offered me less than our agreed price.
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Apr 22, 2007 22:44:32 GMT
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That reminds me, I had a bloke redlining a Punto TD on my lot the other week, even the other customers that were milling about looked alarmed at the punishment he was giving it. I ran out and told him to pack it in. He asked me if there was anything wrong with it. I said there f*cking will be now. He asked for a test drive, I told him no chance. Unsurprisingly he didnt buy the car. What is surprising is that he instead bought a Vectra off me without even starting it up. Whaddaya make of that?
Anyone offering £50 trade in for a 306 TD by the way, needs to think about becoming a florist or something, those things sell before all the oil has had a chance to drain into the sump, 135k or not!
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When I was at uni in the early nineties I was lucky enough to witness a consummate professional at work. He owned this scrapyard- -which was full of rare and wonderful vehicles. On one occasion a couple had travelled up to Yorkshire from Surrey to buy a windscreen for a Yank fifties Ford at a price of £100 agreed on the phone. Once he'd got the punters there, Reg the scrappy owner doubled the price, £200. Naturally the couple argued the point and Reg, while continuing the conversation picked up a hammer and put it through the screen and asked 'can I get you anything else?'. Cue woman in tears and man giving very good impression of goldfish. His favourite trick, if negotiations weren't going to his approval, was to whip out his plonker and have a p1ss at the feet of the other party while continuing the conversation. His willy was similar in size and shape to a top hose from the average Yank tank and could dispense liquid at roughly half the rate of Niagara falls. Always threw people off balance and was usually a turning point in negotiatons. Sorry, gone off topic a bit but I thought it worth relating. sorry about pic quality, I scanned em from 35mm proofs.
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On one occasion a couple had travelled up to Yorkshire from Surrey to buy a windscreen for a Yank fifties Ford at a price of £100 agreed on the phone. Once he'd got the punters there, Reg the scrappy owner doubled the price, £200. That sort of behaviour makes him the timewaster imho
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IS IT ME OR arthurbrown
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Well it's hardly exemplary 'customer service skillz' is it?
That sort of thing is utterly pointless if you are trying to run a business, as (1) they will never come back and (2) they will tell the world what an utter twazzock you are.
Sometimes, childishness can be enjoyable though. Like that lad who d1cked me about on the Kadett. When he eventually got in touch, after a no-show, I kept quiet about having broken the car, until such point he said he had paid to hire a trailer. HAR HAR HAR.
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