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Mar 20, 2007 22:16:36 GMT
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engineering - win
doing it for 'net - lose - prefer the red original that was posted
also them wheels in the first pic remind of others but i cant think what.....help
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Mar 20, 2007 22:30:24 GMT
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it wasnt until I saw the underneath that m,y feeling changed, ive got a serious problem with super shiney polished chrome, gold plate gubbins underneath cars, IMO if ur gonna make a car look good then make it useable aswell, this is not a useable car, no one in their right mind would wanna risk scratching all that shiny stuff with stone chips and what not. They said the same thing about Chicayne and I've heard the same thing levelled against Brian Burrow's Porsche powered Squareback,.. but both of those got driven around the place. Just because a car is shiny at a show and has shiny underneath doesn't mean it isn't used. Particularly when it is premiering... Had to disagree with you on the Foose stuff Si,.. quality though it may be, it can't hold a torch to Trepanier... I just find them all too high tech, they seem to be lacking in any kind of soul, whereas Rad Rides seem to capture the essence of the underlying car and inject a bit of soul in there. I'd agree on the display though,.. I'd like to see it sat on the ground,.. that stance looks like it should be killer. |
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Mar 20, 2007 22:32:28 GMT
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Kept out of this so far. We all have our own interests here and our own opinions, Its not the sort of thing that hits me either, given the chance at a free car there, i may turn magpie and pick a bling'd maching in a blinkered moment, but its bloody great and great to be shown it. I often think, so much of what artists and crafts and creator types make so often gets overlooked, which is sad  , but also strangely satisfying.  In the engine bay of the V8 Sierra on Sunday, i noticed a Ford hose connecting some bits of the Rover, times like that I think how much i bloody love the way my mate built that car, a genius in the real world, because the car has so many touches like that.  deserving a similar level from me So for the record; my Vote -Its ace but not my personal chosen Oooff -not bland its subtle  -i like some of the blingy rods a bit -Love teh stuff underneath however it does look like moulded plastic, this is not a criticism though, it just looks so alien and clean -Carpet does look a bit funny in that picture, interior a little basic but kinda suits the car, again not a criticism, sure its bloody lovely when appreciated in the flesh! |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Mar 20, 2007 22:46:12 GMT
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I had a look, and can honestly say that it leaves me cold.
Not just this one, but this kind of top end thing in general. I didn't get too excited about a TR5 that had had a tens of thousand of pounds restoration either, but I was captivated by a half decent b-reg Talbot Solara at the shops today.
I just reckon that it looks too finished, too smooth and IMO not a great improvement on the original.
Give me a real ratter before this. Life is too short for polishing.
BB
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Yesterday at 7:54, pogweasel wrote:
Nothing wrong with creature comforts. If I want masochism, I'll just go and slam my knackers in the fridge door for a bit.
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Mar 20, 2007 23:00:12 GMT
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Mar 20, 2007 23:01:52 GMT
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I totally understand that there is a booming "show car" scene in the US and cars get built to compete for points. The better the quality, engineering, unique parts etc the more likely they will win. That's why this one has won. I don't like the canted rasied display for the same reason as Rmad - you can't really tell how it would sit on the road but then that's not what has won it the big prize. Having worked around cars worth way more than my own I am astounded by the skills and abilities that go into constructing something like that. How can you build a machine that is THAT clean! It takes super dedication! I love the wide stud pattern brakes/hubs/wheels. Of all the cars pictured in this thread though, the one I would like to own is the one in Deucecoupes post. edit: Sorry, that was all a bit rambling. What I meant to say was that the car was built with the specific task of winning that show (as would the others have been) That was its job. We shouldn't be looking at it as a car in any other way at this point in time other than to grab ideas and inspiration. |
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as I have said before I am a big fan of both foose and troy .the 36 is spot on, i've been watching this one in the making as subtal as it looks its a one off custom built body with one off custom built running gear with unrivaled workmanship.i absalutly love the fact that some people think its not had much done. try parking it next to a stock one and you will find nothing on it the same but it looks like it was factory and that is perfection |
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bstardchild
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New Trepanier car..bstardchild
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None of them do much for me - thats not to say I can't appreciate the work that goes into them but it's all just too - shiney/preped/pampered and dedicated to a show circuit that means trailered around never turning a wheel under it's own steam
That kinda kills it for me as I have never understood the concors lark either!!
Show me something thats hard as nails and built to do anything at all other than be an exhibit and it'll get an oooooof everytime
It's a CAR - got an engine and wheels and tyres and it's meant to be driven
pour fuel in and drive
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Snoozin
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Nightmares could not have put it any better re: the looking factory, yet bearing no resemblance at all.... just the words I was struggling to find to describe this car. It is custom car perfection, I adore it's absence of outright bling, it's subtle touches that make it stand out rather unsubtley from the crowd....
Big thumbs up here! Maybe not quite as big as the Foose P32 32' roadster with the Lincoln flathead V12, but still freakin awesome.
And I don't doubt it will be driven in due time.
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Had to disagree with you on the Foose stuff Si,.. quality though it may be, it can't hold a torch to Trepanier... I agree, but with a direct comparison between the two 'rods (First Love vs. Grand Master), I think Foose takes it. On general stuff, my money is on Troy every time! |
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 I find cars like this disproportionate and wak. The riddler runners up are all OK in their own way I guess. The Willys is actually rather nice. Most of the cars built to compete in these shows are too obviously built to compete in shows as thier #1 function, rather than being a case of "build a nice car and see if it wins a trophy if I show it"... and a lot of the rat rods are just as bad for "LOOK AT ME" factor rather than taste or proportion. |
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Mar 21, 2007 11:27:33 GMT
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Slater,.. you shouldn't be falling asleep, you should be examining them in incredible detail in the hope that one day you too can produce cars of a similar level of workmanship,.. if only on engineering grounds.. ignore for a second the aesthetics of it, look at the engineering. Sure chopping some coils out of our suspension, wanging on some wide wheels and hotting up our engines is all great fun. This,.. this is Monet or Picasso compared to our finger painting. Maybe I'm on my own,.. I thought perfection was something to be striven for rather than dismissed as too perfect. I thought that understanding proportion, subtlety and invention would help make people better at modifying cars rather than just paint by numbers 1) take old cheap car 2) lower on wide wheels 3) stand back and admire 4) repeat ad nauseaum.... Nothing against modifying by numbers, its our bed and butter, its pretty much what I'm doing,.. but as I said,.. this is something more. Its not just billet and money thrown at an old car, it is total understanding of what to do where, what to cut, what to leave, what to paint, what to polish, what to add and what to leave. If you can understand that, then you can produce better modified cars, even on our budgets... The fact that suprisingskoda thinks thats how the cars suppose to look anyway "in the toyota-corolla-grey corner you have a car that has an incredibly high level of workmanship, but few if any body mods (certainly none noticeable)" .. proving that the car has been so perfectly put together with such a high level of understanding that people are thinking it left the factory like that and was always suppose to look that way,.. even though its been radically modified bodily. and what are Monet and Picasso paintings? Genious' work that is incredibly valued and super-acheiving - yet suits no purpose beyond any painting we can do. a few years ago I painted Enzo Ferrari's Alfa 8C (which a fellow UVCC member owns) and I can honestly say I'd put that up on a wall before a Picasso splodge. Slaters metro is perfection, and we don't dismiss that. maybe I'm alone in saying I'll take his metro over this 'masterpiece'. nobodys denying the work but there seems to be plenty who find it unappealing. i will admit it looks fairly standard to me, well, actually, i did reckon the back looks like its been extended, so there we have it, its a subtle car that tricks us (me) into thinking its fairly standard. except it has polished metals, huge chrome wheels and an unflattering paintjob? when it decides what trend its epitomising i'll take another look. |
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Mar 21, 2007 12:04:32 GMT
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I reckon that these Yanks have been spending too much time on french 'bay, a touch of the old garlic inspriation for those rims, perhaps?  |
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Yesterday at 7:54, pogweasel wrote:
Nothing wrong with creature comforts. If I want masochism, I'll just go and slam my knackers in the fridge door for a bit.
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Mar 21, 2007 12:34:59 GMT
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when it decides what trend its epitomising i'll take another look. So a car has to be part of a scene? it can't just be a really great custom? It can't be judged in its own right, only as part of a trend? Thats wierd. Maybe he should start selling stencils and tee-shirts... |
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slater
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New Trepanier car..slater
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Mar 21, 2007 13:19:29 GMT
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Taking any old heap and make it shiney does not equal a good car imo. Take a cool car and make it shiney and i would be oof'ing but the style is old and boring to me.
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Mar 21, 2007 13:42:57 GMT
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I'm not really into the car, i think underneath is pretty, but it would be something i'd rather have displayed in a glass cabinet than actually on a car.
once again it seems a lot of people are getting talked down for not sharing the 'correct' opinion.
i think the exterior colour is too..bland,
i don't like the wheels.
i don't like the material used for the doorcards
i don't like the accelerator and brake pedals
i do like the steering wheel, but not the steering column
the front brakes/hub make me feel sick looking at them, i do not like that colour one bit.
the forefront of car 'art'..it perhaps maybe, but whether i actually give a sh*t about "car art" is a different matter.
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
this weeks car count "5"
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Mar 21, 2007 14:19:32 GMT
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Errrrr.......?
Edit: I'm far too polite to leave my original post.
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Mar 21, 2007 14:27:57 GMT
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its not about the 'correct opinion', of course everyone is entitled to their own and its unlikely we'll all agree
however to see such a lack of appreciation for the work and engineering thats gone into this is shocking.
and to be honest, i think a lot of people don't have the appreciation for it because they don't see whats been done
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Mar 21, 2007 14:33:22 GMT
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its not about the 'correct opinion', of course everyone is entitled to their own and its unlikely we'll all agree however to see such a lack of appreciation for the work and engineering thats gone into this is shocking. and to be honest, I think a lot of people don't have the appreciation for it because they don't see whats been done ^^^^^^ x2 |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 21, 2007 16:53:08 GMT
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its not about the 'correct opinion', of course everyone is entitled to their own and its unlikely we'll all agree however to see such a lack of appreciation for the work and engineering thats gone into this is shocking. and to be honest, I think a lot of people don't have the appreciation for it because they don't see whats been done ^^^^^^ x2 x3 + 1 |
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, but also strangely satisfying. 
deserving a similar level from me 
