Zapp Brannigan
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Mar 19, 2007 20:05:21 GMT
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Hi guys,
I've been planning on buying a BMC 1100/1300 for years now (2 door that is) and I'm finally thinking about it! Trouble is the steelies they come with are rather dull! I'd always thought that the PCD was the same as the Mini, but having looked on the PCD guide on here I find it's actually the same as cars like the Farinas and stuff! This presents a problem 'cos AFAIK there are very few aftermarket wheels for such cars! What I'd like to know is, are there any (sensible) aftermarket wheels that can be easily bought for the BMC 1100/1300? Not looking for anything extravagant, maybe just minilites or slot-mags.
I also had the idea that maybe the hubs etc form a mini could be swapped, bearing in mind the similarity between the two cars! Is there any truth in that, or am I wildy off the mark?
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Mar 19, 2007 20:13:14 GMT
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In fact more than a 4" mini PCD
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4x114.3 is very popular on Japmobiles so lots of cool Japanese wheels would be available.
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Zapp Brannigan
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Mar 19, 2007 20:20:17 GMT
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Unfortunatley most of the cars on that list are rather more modern than an 1100/1300, so I don't think anything would really suit, and of course it would probably be impossible to go more than 13".
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Mar 19, 2007 20:35:52 GMT
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Just done a search for 4x114.3 wheels in the R-R for sale section. Here is a selection, most probably sold my now though  Cosmics   Iron cross thingies  Slot Mags, possibly still for sale here Rewinds ;D So there are some cool wheels out there  |
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Mar 19, 2007 20:40:24 GMT
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114.3 means the coolest J-rims ever! In the UK then MGB, Stag, Lotus and Scimitar rims are your friends!
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Zapp Brannigan
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Mar 19, 2007 20:50:29 GMT
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Just found out about the MGB and Scimitars being 4.5" as well....trouble is the smallest they are is 14"...might be a little too big! liking some of the wheels in the pics though.....like the iron cross things!
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bobz
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Mar 19, 2007 21:04:06 GMT
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The front drive flanges on an 1100 can be swaped for the 4" ones as fitted to Minis. The rear hubs/drums would have to be redrilled, but it's been done before so shouldn't cause to many problems |
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Don't plan anything, it'll start raining!
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Zapp Brannigan
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Mar 19, 2007 21:35:33 GMT
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Just found out on minilite.co.uk that you can get custom made minilites....although no prices! They've got pics of a Datsun 240z and a Lotus Elan in their gallery, which I think are both 114.3??
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Mar 19, 2007 21:43:53 GMT
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I'm suprised that Rmad didn't post that photoshop,.. particularly as you are a VW person  |
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Zapp Brannigan
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Mar 19, 2007 22:07:56 GMT
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I'm suprised that Rmad didn't post that photoshop,.. particularly as you are a VW person Oh, I've seen it! As a VW man I can't stand BRMs...none too keen on 4 door BMC 1100s either!...Made me laugh though! |
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Zapp Brannigan
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Mar 20, 2007 21:05:06 GMT
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Just found out on minilite.co.uk that you can get custom made minilites....although no prices! They've got pics of a Datsun 240z and a Lotus Elan in their gallery, which I think are both 114.3?? Emailed them this morning...instant response:£85 for 13x5.5 minilites made to measure for 1100....not bad! |
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If I remember correctly, Wolfrace did a 5X13 wheel for the Allaggro and Maxi, and the offset should be right for the 1100/1300.
By the way, that Photoshopped 1300GT on BRMs is spot-on. Someone should build it!!
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Just found out on minilite.co.uk that you can get custom made minilites....although no prices! They've got pics of a Datsun 240z and a Lotus Elan in their gallery, which I think are both 114.3?? Lotus Elan is more likely to be 3.75". |
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If I remember correctly, Wolfrace did a 5X13 wheel for the Allaggro and Maxi, and the offset should be right for the 1100/1300. I’ve seen them, funny-looking things because Maxis etc run so much offset. That might be the biggest problem with putting any sort of attractive wheel with a bit of dish/not too much offset on these. |
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Mar 21, 2007 11:34:52 GMT
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Defo, these 1100's have a bizarre offset, the mounting face of the wheel is almost parallel with the rim's outer edge, is that 'negative offset'? Whatever it is, it'll be easy to ruin the steering and wear out lots of knuckle joints by boshing the wrong wheels on.
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slater
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Mar 21, 2007 13:10:03 GMT
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Its mega positive offset, its the 'big' problem with these cars.
You either need to swap suspension - hard
Fit wide wheels and fit arches - not quite as hard
Or go for the big wheel/no offset look which is going to leave it looking like a tractor
Otherwise its going to look wrong.... its not as easy as just buying a set of wheels for it
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Last Edit: Mar 21, 2007 13:10:44 GMT by slater
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Mar 21, 2007 13:18:32 GMT
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There is an alternative way – widen the shell by grafting in 6” lengthways through the centre of the car, then drop back over standard suspension. That’ll give room to run dished wheels under standard (from the side) looking bodywork, easy eh?...
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Seth
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Mar 25, 2007 22:49:51 GMT
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I had a thought the other day that might be the easiest (though by no means simple) way of making a pukka looking 1100. I believe (though someone should tell me if I'm wrong as it spoils this whole plan!) that the ADO16 range has complete front and rear subframes that bolt to the body and hold all the suspension and at the front the engine and box. So how about swapping the standard ones for complete Mini subframes? The Mini track is about 4" narrower than the 1100's but this would obviously allow for some nice tucked under but reasonable width wheels. A standard 1275 Mini engine would give a car that performed the same as a normal 1300. Later minis took 13" rims too so the suspension could manage. Or you could go for a 10" roller skate look The obvious major work required would be to modify/fabricate new subframe mounts and to hook up the steering but this would probably be easier than re-engineering each separate corner to take proper wheels and tyres. What d'ya reckon? |
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madmart
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hi just seen these on e bay,[ftp]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/cosmic-alloys-datsun-triumph-retro-classic_W0QQitemZ140099481581[/ftp]though there only 12" they look like unusual alloys
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slater
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I had a thought the other day that might be the easiest (though by no means simple) way of making a pukka looking 1100. I believe (though someone should tell me if I'm wrong as it spoils this whole plan!) that the ADO16 range has complete front and rear subframes that bolt to the body and hold all the suspension and at the front the engine and box. So how about swapping the standard ones for complete Mini subframes? The Mini track is about 4" narrower than the 1100's but this would obviously allow for some nice tucked under but reasonable width wheels. A standard 1275 Mini engine would give a car that performed the same as a normal 1300. Later minis took 13" rims too so the suspension could manage. Or you could go for a 10" roller skate look The obvious major work required would be to modify/fabricate new subframe mounts and to hook up the steering but this would probably be easier than re-engineering each separate corner to take proper wheels and tyres. What d'ya reckon? i reckon you should stop giving my secrets away!  lol |
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lol