ZXRob
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Mar 17, 2013 15:50:41 GMT
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Since selling my T3 I have been looking at getting a modern Toyota Corolla T-Sport. Looking at them and researching them has started something of an interest in the rivals to Hondas Vtec engine and the cars that they power. Here is a selection of early 90's Japanese cars that were built as rivals to the Honda Civic Type R. Nissan Pulsar VZR N1    Powered by Nissan's 1.6L NEO VVL engine it develops 175BHP and can get to 60 in around 7 seconds. This is a favorite of mine and if I was in England I would probably be searching for one, although I imagine that isn't the easiest of tasks. Toyota Sprinter Trueno BZ-R   These used a 20v "Black top" version of Toyotas Legendary 4A-GE engine which produced 165BHP. They were also equipped with and LSD, 6 speed gearbox and Toyota's Super Strut suspension. Again I don't think they are readily available in Europe like Type Rs seem to be but my word I think they are so much cooler. Mitsubishi Colt Cyborg-R     I don't really know much about the Cyborg-R other than I think it has around 150BHP and it definately has the coolest name of them all! Does anybody have any more suggestions or pictures? Are there any owners of these cars on here? I think I remember a guy having a Pulsar. Thankyou for reading. Rob |
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Last Edit: Mar 17, 2013 15:52:30 GMT by ZXRob
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Mar 17, 2013 16:46:18 GMT
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The 1.6 Neo engine came in a guise that was the most powerful NA production engine per liter of all time, 197bhp rings bells. Must be a bit mental  Makes the B16a look a bit limp wristed! |
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stealthstylz
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Vtec Rivals. stealthstylz
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Mar 17, 2013 20:09:46 GMT
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The Cyborgs are 175bhp on Japanese fuel. The Nissan Neo is in a different league though.
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OUTRUN
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Mar 17, 2013 20:32:55 GMT
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SR16/20VE and SR20VET (albeit originally found in X-Trails) and just a little harder to acquire lol are all superb, little-known, underrated engines.
Much like the SR20DE(T) before them. One day people will realise how great they really are.
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Last Edit: Mar 17, 2013 20:33:35 GMT by OUTRUN
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OUTRUN
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Mar 17, 2013 20:48:40 GMT
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Just remembered, there was a local lad who fitted an SR20VE into an N15 Almera GTi, It went like a raped ape, and sounded heavenly. It required the SR16 ECU to run.
Years ago I bought a JDM P11 Primera (already in country) for it's power folding mirrors and black dashboard, with just a slim hope that beneath the bonnet lurked a Neo VVL...
Sadly, there wasn't one. What I did find, coupled to it's slush box was an SR18DE though.
Anyone had one of those? Nothing special I know, but not exactly in abundance.
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I need your help to get back to the year 1985.
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Mar 17, 2013 22:38:26 GMT
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I'm lucky enough to have been in Sam's (TheSam's) N1 Pulsar and it's very, very, *VERY* addictive to hear the twin stage variable timing. The engine/induction/exhaust note sound and act just like V-tec when the first stage cuts in at just below 6,000rpm....but when you get to 7,000 the 2nd stage comes on cam and it's just like someones hit the hyperdrive button! Serious sensory overload, but you just want more of it.
I have some videos that I took on one of our jaunts, I've been promising to get them to Sam for well over a year and I really should. When I do, I'll post them up here as well for you all to enjoy....
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will930
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Mar 17, 2013 23:10:19 GMT
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funnily enough had a primera p11 neo vvl sr20 in for mapping the other day and it made 192 at the fly on the dyno!
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OUTRUN
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funnily enough had a primera p11 neo vvl sr20 in for mapping the other day and it made 192 at the fly on the dyno! Very impressive! I must have seen this SR16VE Micra taster video loads of times over the years: It makes Little Bandit seem tame.  |
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I need your help to get back to the year 1985.
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LowStandards
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As an aside I drive a t-sport as a daily and I hate it, its got feck all about it and when it does come on cam you have to change gear and go through the whole miserable process again
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The Cyborgs are 175bhp on Japanese fuel. The Nissan Neo is in a different league though. Thee was a Ralliart one with a different chip that was 195 and came with a close ratio bax and LSD We have quite a few racing here, usually the only thing that challenges the EF Honda with the B16a in the 1600 class, though a lot of Honda's are stroked to go U2L |
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Contrary to popular opinion, I do have mechanical sympathy, I always feel sorry for the cars I drive.
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ZXRob
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Sept 26, 2015 9:20:37 GMT
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Just to bring this back from the depths. Just watched this mega video and thought it fit quite well here.
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ZXRob
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Sept 26, 2015 9:23:16 GMT
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As an aside I drive a t-sport as a daily and I hate it, its got feck all about it and when it does come on cam you have to change gear and go through the whole miserable process again I bought a T-Sport just after starting this thread and still have it. I love driving it and it is plenty quick enough for me and is also the perfect daily. I have fitted Eibach springs which make it loads better in the corners and also reduce the comical ride height that they have as standard. |
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Sept 26, 2015 10:57:16 GMT
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I tried an upgraded Colt like the one in the first post once, couldnt help but feel its a bit... Dead? Compared to EG civics. Went like stink though! |
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ZXRob
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Sept 26, 2015 12:40:29 GMT
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I didn't know they were available in Europe! I thought they were japan only! Off to autoscout I go!
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Sept 26, 2015 15:31:32 GMT
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It was a regular Colt, only with an engine swap of some kind.
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Sept 26, 2015 17:38:39 GMT
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Another vote for Nissans SR20, a mate had a one in a Micra until he sold it for parts, hes now currently buying up parts to build another one
Had a ride in it and never wanted a SR swapped micra soo bad
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