mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 19, 2013 13:25:11 GMT
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only 4 spi out of the lpt what does the turbo+ boost at and will a t3 off a cozzie fit the 940 manifold ? Yeah, only 4psi, but the boost is the only difference between them. I bought a bleedvalve from ebay for £15ish delivered, plumbed it in along with a boost gauge and now I'm running 10-12psi (around 170-185BHPish). Lets just say its abit more lively now. I think the turbo+ might've actually been US only now I look at it, but I think they boosted to around 10psi too. I guess any turbo would fit if you're willing to have a manifold made or start changing housings, I've been told that the injectors and turbo from a 850T5 (and perhaps others) are the way to go. The stock intercoolers are good for 300bhp, but the clutches gave in at 250. There is huge amounts of information out there on the internets, Turbobricks has a fair few knowledgable individuals. If you look back through this thread there is quite abit of good info too, I mean, look at the spec of MeltedCheeses', 270bhp at the flywheel is good numbers...
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Jan 19, 2013 13:30:48 GMT
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thanks for the advice. see you on the street sometime. your not a million miles away
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 23, 2013 20:39:42 GMT
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Had the plugs out and found them to be in pretty decent nick, however on pot 2 and 3, the screw-on tips were loose to the point on when I pulled the leads off, the tips stayed put. I screwed them back onto the plugs hoping that it would account for the stumbling over load, but alas, it's still the same. I'm begining to think MAF or blocked cat as suggested. thanks for the advice. see you on the street sometime. your not a million miles away Oh, where abouts are you? If you're not a million miles away, you and your Cosworth driving mates should come to the Yorkshire meet, it's always nice to see a Saph, and even these RWD Volvos are getting thin on the ground.
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stealthstylz
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3sstealthstylz
@stealthstylz
Club Retro Rides Member 174
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Jan 23, 2013 20:53:07 GMT
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Time to chop the exhaust up Dave. Angle grinder and welder at the ready - oh and speak to Kev the one he's brought up from Bristol was running curse word and that showed a fault code for dodgy MAF.
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 23, 2013 21:45:51 GMT
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Yes Matt, sooner rather than later... what you upto Saturday? If its not snowing that is... (which is looking pretty unlikely, as its due to pound it down on Friday)
Hmm, food for thought with the MAF, I'll hit that Volvo breakers up and see how much a 24V MAF is.
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2013 22:37:56 GMT by mk14dr
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 29, 2013 19:54:29 GMT
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Buggerations are in order. On the way home from work, and driving completely sedately - which is odd for me, it has just crapped 3rd gear. Every other gear seems fine, but if you go for 3rd, and let the clutch up slightly you get a whole world of grinding-awful-nasty noises. I thought these boxes were good for massive power? I obviously bought a weak example Anybody have a B230FT 5speeder for sale cheap? Or is breaking one? And maybe know what sort of job a box change is?
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Jan 29, 2013 20:03:26 GMT
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Does it have oil? Oh, and a g/box change isn't too bad if you have a) a car lift and b) assistance. Based on working on a 4+OD 940 (between midnight and about 4am), drop the prop, gear lever out (circlip pliers not essential but *very* useful), wiring off, diconnect clutch pipe, box out. Upper bellhousing bolts are a pain. And the box is heavy. I can imagine it being a royal pain in the hole on your own on a driveway though.
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Last Edit: Jan 29, 2013 20:06:38 GMT by jrevillug
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 29, 2013 20:11:04 GMT
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I'll check for oil, but I would assume so with all other gears feeling fine, reverse and everything. I've been told these 5spd boxes are a bit lighter in their constructions, but still, its going to a mother of a job on my back on the drive. Dammit
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Hey man, Turbo+ cars were only a North American option on 240s. I don't believe they used that nomenclature past the 1985 240s, the last year for turbo 240s. There were 240 Turbos, and 240 Turbo+, the + denoting an intercooled equipped car (like mine). They were a dealer installed option from 1983 until some point midway in '84, when they were all factory equipped. It allows the boost to be turned up from the stock 6.5 up to 10psi. The 740s and 940s were never marketed as "Turbo +" over here, or anywhere else that I know of, merely "Turbo Intercooler".
Is this car quipped with an M90? We never got those here but they are reputed to be good for well over 300hp. Sorry man, really sucks to change a gearbox out on the driveway, I know.
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Is this car quipped with an M90? We never got those here but they are reputed to be good for well over 300hp. Sorry man, really sucks to change a gearbox out on the driveway, I know. Yep, M90 equipped. It seems it may have failed due to my bad habit of driving with my hand on the gearstick -- that an the abuse I've treated it to since I wound the boost up. Still, I've only running 12psi/180ishBHP so it should've been plenty stout enough for that. I've driven it to work this morning and in all the other gears it engages and pulls fine. However, coasting in gear with the clutch down creates a 'clicking' from the 'box. I'm ringing around breakers trying to find another M90 and crossing my fingers that there is nothing else busted
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Last Edit: Jan 30, 2013 10:40:09 GMT by mk14dr
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Jan 30, 2013 10:16:27 GMT
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Awesome you got a volvo - you can look out for me in my grey 240 now! (the orange one isnt done yet!)
By the way, now youve got one, youre hooked!)
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Thor: 1980 - 244DL - B21A - M45. CLICK ON THE PICTURE BANNER FOR MY PROJECT THREAD!
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 30, 2013 10:45:03 GMT
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Awesome you got a volvo - you can look out for me in my grey 240 now! (the orange one isnt done yet!) By the way, now youve got one, youre hooked!) Yeah, it just fit the bill for all-things-to-all-men car. It's been good fun until it broke last night. I'll keep an eye out for you.
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Jan 30, 2013 11:13:42 GMT
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Sorry to hear about the missing gear. Are you sure Matt hasn't pinched it as one of his sick little jokes? Drop a line to the Kevster, he's bound to have something vaguely Volvo gearbox shaped in his tat barn? Especially with his recent found love of the Scandodriftybargewagon. Hope you get it sorted soon Amigo.
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 30, 2013 11:18:01 GMT
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Sorry to hear about the missing gear. Are you sure Matt hasn't pinched it as one of his sick little jokes? Drop a line to the Kevster, he's bound to have something vaguely Volvo gearbox shaped in his tat barn? Especially with his recent found love of the Scandodriftybargewagon. Hope you get it sorted soon Amigo. Cheers Bruce, I have deep confindence that it will fix easy enough, however, i have shallow pockets to finance it. I blame the yanks, as it would seem because they didn't get manual 7xx and 9xx series alot of the M90 boxes have been shipped out there. I'm just hoping its not borked the DMF aswell
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Jan 30, 2013 12:46:56 GMT
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Can you swap the DMF for a 'proper' flywheel from another redblock? Seems a sensible thing to do while you've got to drop the box. I seem to remember a 740 turbo clutch coming with my 240 as a more stout upgrade that would bolt straight up, suggesting good intercompatibilty if the Flywheel bolt pattern is unchanged.
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring.
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Jan 30, 2013 13:00:24 GMT
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Caution - if the flywheel has the crank sensor teeth on it, make sure that it goes back onto the crankshaft in the same orientation, or the engine won't run. Ask me how I know.
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
Posts: 4,472
Club RR Member Number: 85
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'96 Volvo 940 2.3smk14dr
@mk14dr
Club Retro Rides Member 85
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Jan 30, 2013 13:10:54 GMT
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Can you swap the DMF for a 'proper' flywheel from another redblock? Seems a sensible thing to do while you've got to drop the box. I seem to remember a 740 turbo clutch coming with my 240 as a more stout upgrade that would bolt straight up, suggesting good intercompatibilty if the Flywheel bolt pattern is unchanged. If I want to ditch the DMF I need a 'dogdish' flywheel and a 940TD clutch kit, basically it becomes quite an expensive job and the end result, although it can handle good power, is apparently AWFUL in traffic. James, I'm hoping I don't need to disturb the flywheel, in an ideal world I would find a like-for-like box and do the swap in an afternoon. Thats the plan anyway, however, I can see it getting out of hand like most automotive things in my life...
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Jan 30, 2013 13:14:50 GMT
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Kev's latest Volvo drift wagon has a dog-dish flywheel on the back of it's 2.0T engine. I guess the different clutch is required due to the gearbox input splines?
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Jan 30, 2013 14:34:19 GMT
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if your gonna do all those things to get a different flywheel and clutch in there then the best option still is to contact ttvracing.com and buy a flywheel for a redblock with the volvo 850 pressureplate bolt setup and bolt a volvo 850T5 clutch to it. Those will handle good power and you still have good driveability. But its not cheap, i think a 850 clutch kit is around 300 euro here, and the flywheel was around 250 euro i think.
And the broken 3rd gear on the m90gearbox happens more. If you google it you can probably find somthing about welding somthing around the 3rd gear up to prevent it from breaking. But we never really had problems with them breaking. And my brother has put his m90 to more then 60.000km of pretty hard use. And a good working m90 gearbox costs around 250 euro over here.
And for the people that wanna know how much pressure the normale volvo high pressure engines use, they use 0.65 bar and the lpt should do 0.3bar. And there once was a tuning kit available that had a 0.8bar wastegate and that was it. With that on the engine they said it would make around 180hp
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meltedcheese
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Please, Don't Sqeeze the Volvo!
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Jan 30, 2013 23:09:09 GMT
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Can you swap the DMF for a 'proper' flywheel from another redblock? Seems a sensible thing to do while you've got to drop the box. I seem to remember a 740 turbo clutch coming with my 240 as a more stout upgrade that would bolt straight up, suggesting good intercompatibilty if the Flywheel bolt pattern is unchanged. If I want to ditch the DMF I need a 'dogdish' flywheel and a 940TD clutch kit, basically it becomes quite an expensive job and the end result, although it can handle good power, is apparently AWFUL in traffic. James, I'm hoping I don't need to disturb the flywheel, in an ideal world I would find a like-for-like box and do the swap in an afternoon. Thats the plan anyway, however, I can see it getting out of hand like most automotive things in my life... Hi Mk14dr, I noticed you are having trouble with your box, I'm in the process of saving to do the TDI clutch setup in the next few months. Removing my M47 to go over to the M90. Out of curiosity have you asked anybody on Volvoforum.org.uk if they have a spare box, I would be very surprised if you didn't get a your hands on one there. If your not signed up I can get a few contacts for you? If you are really in the s**t I would be willing to give you mine as a loaner with the premise of getting one back in a month or two. (When dropping the big old Volvo boxes on my drive I usually use an old up-turned washing up bowl to break the fall). Hope all is well Chris (Meltedcheese)
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