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Dec 22, 2006 21:07:10 GMT
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I've been lurking round these parts for a few years now and I've had a Retro project on the back burner since 2003. I moved house in June this year and now have a nice double garage kitted out with the spoils of a new job and I'm just desperate to get going with said project. My 1971 Triumph 2000 estate currently with a Rover V8 fitted is about to see a bit of a power upgrade in the shape of a "budget build" 350 cu in Small Block Chevy V8 with a B+M 144 blower. I'm reckoning about 400 horses should be a reasonable guess at the power, possibly a little more but obviously either will be way too much for the standard diff and drive shafts. I'm planning on running a TH 350 autobox (but have a Supra 5 spd just in case) but need to re think the rear end so that it doesn't liquidise itself when i open her up. My initial thoughts are to get hold of some BMW running gear, the 3 or 5 series diff should fit with some modifications to the car shouldn't it? I know the suspension set up is a similar design but until I get my hand on some parts (Dammit the local breakers is cold st this time of year!) its all speculation and guess work. Anyone attempted anything similar? any tips and hints? here's a wee taster anyway:  I have some pictures of the blower sat on top of the rover engine somewhere, I'll post one up sometime. |
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Triumph Estate to do list:
1. Remove Rover V8 - done
2. chop, weld, spray - ongoing, need motivation
3. drop in RB25
4. burn rubber
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Dec 22, 2006 21:09:58 GMT
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YAY!!! Its still alive and you're still here,.. this was one of my fave cars to appear on this site,.. and then you were just gone,.. glad you are still around,.. and have plans  Love This Car! |
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Dec 22, 2006 21:14:19 GMT
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!! :-)
Wicked-looking ride!!
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Smiler
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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Dec 22, 2006 21:44:27 GMT
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Cooooool!
I nearly became the owner of a restored 2500 PI saloon the other weekend. All that stopped me was the fact that my raffle ticket wasn't pulled out from the hat. D'oh!
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Dec 22, 2006 21:54:45 GMT
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That picture is a few years old now, it was taken in the lock-up where i had the car stored, now that its home I can get started on the work. I toyed with the idea of keeping the rover engine but it just wasn't what I had in mind for the car. Granted, the work required would be MUCH less to get it on the road but I've always had a bit of a hotrod streak in me. Its fate was sealed when back in June I found an old smoker of a SBC complete with autobox for sale for pennies locally and got a good deal on the blower from the states. Now that i have my own garage, i've spent a bit on tools etc so I can get things done when i'm at home (5 weeks at a time). I just need to get motivated like some of you guys on here. That 5 day hydraulics conversion on the big Merc coupe was a great piece of work, if only I could work so quickly... Anyway, the Triumph will be worked on along side another project, dare I say it here? A '94 Evo 2 which is getting a fair doing over with a big turbo shaped stick, as soon as he engine is out of the evo, i can get the triumph up on the vehicle stand and get underneath it to see what I have there at the rear end. The Blower on the V8 in the Triumph should sit a bit lower than in the picture below as its mounted on top of an Edelbrock manifold I bought for the Rover lump. There will be many challenges with this car, I just can't help myself though, I blame it all on the 5 days i was stuck in a hotel in Cameroon with nowt for company but my laptop and all 26 episodes of series 1 of American Hotrod..... ![]() i16.tinypic.com/2w2f1c4.jpg[\IMG] |
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Triumph Estate to do list:
1. Remove Rover V8 - done
2. chop, weld, spray - ongoing, need motivation
3. drop in RB25
4. burn rubber
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Dec 22, 2006 21:56:41 GMT
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Triumph Estate to do list:
1. Remove Rover V8 - done
2. chop, weld, spray - ongoing, need motivation
3. drop in RB25
4. burn rubber
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Dec 22, 2006 21:56:52 GMT
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It would be almost a shame to mess with the smooth lines you've got going on with the blower out of the bonnet  ... but its going to be an awesome car no matter what ... |
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Dec 22, 2006 22:02:02 GMT
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I know what you mean and agree, I probably won't put the alloy scoop on there, as I said, it will sit a bit lower on the chevy lump and i'll do everything I can to keep it hidden  If its a bit of a squeeze I have a fibreglass mustang bonnet scoop hidden away in the garage. It shouldn't be too long before I can get the chevy engine lowered into the engine bay, then I can see just how high it sits. Naturally, a picture will follow |
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Triumph Estate to do list:
1. Remove Rover V8 - done
2. chop, weld, spray - ongoing, need motivation
3. drop in RB25
4. burn rubber
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Take a look at an S12 Nissan Silvia or Z31 Nissan 300ZX rear end. They use the same kind of semi trailing arm setup as 2000's. They use an R200 diff that will handle the power no probs and tough CV joint driveshafts. It's been quite a few years since I woked on Triumphs so I couldn't say how near to being usable the Nissan stuff would be but as it's of the same basic concept it might worth a look.
If you are feeling keen for a bit of major fabrication, you could always attempt to fit a 200SX rear subframe under the back of your ride. I've seen it done on a Datsun estate before so it's a possible transplant. Again that would give you the tough R200 diff but also the benefit of modern multi link suspension and off the shelf adjustable suspension arms and trick diffs. of course the Nissan stuff uses the same stud pattern as triumph too!
Very nice estate BTW. They've got to rate high on the list of best looking estates ever I think.
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1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
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bxer
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That looks fooking ace! It'll really shift with that in it! I had a 2500S Estate many years ago, great car ;D I know that a certain gtvsaviour is about to do a Triumph lowrider and is considering a rear beam and swing arms from BMW E30 M3, so that might be a plan? Anyway, I'm gagging to see how it turns out! I know from my experience with the original swingarms that you're on the right track replacing them, as they have the strength of a piece of cheese  |
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Dec 23, 2006 11:08:03 GMT
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qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member
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Club RR Member Number: 52
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Triumph 2000 rear end upgradeqwerty
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Dec 23, 2006 11:18:24 GMT
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OOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF!!!!!!
That is gorgeous!! And such brilliant plans!! You HAVE to keep us updated on this. Preferably hourly!!
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Dec 23, 2006 12:02:01 GMT
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Thanks for the comments guys and cheers for the pointer on the J stuff Ratdat, I'll look out for one of those at the scrappies next time i'm in for a rake about.
I did almost think about fitting a straight six engine, like BMW or even a Nissan turbo'd six as i've had a couple of R32 GTR's, what an awesome engine that is but as good as they are, you can't beat an old school V8 for cheap parts and the sublime soundtrack.
I have both an E30 M3 (very tidy) and an E34 530i (V8) so I should really have a look at the rear end on them. The M3 setup would be rarer (and mucho $$$) than std 3 series of course and if no-one buys the 5 when I try to sell it in a few months (for something smaller when the misses learns to drive) i could break it I suppose and use some of the bits, I thought 3 series would be more likely to fit due to being nearer the same size (width) as the Triumph.
Note to self:- get finger out of ar$e and get the tape measure out!
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Triumph Estate to do list:
1. Remove Rover V8 - done
2. chop, weld, spray - ongoing, need motivation
3. drop in RB25
4. burn rubber
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Dec 23, 2006 14:28:21 GMT
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www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~stag1/Parts development > Mk1 BMW rear end. Most certainly useful to look at .....Monarch Stags also do a BMW rear end! Swaps the whole lot out and replaces it with tougher/recon'd bits..... You'll certainly need it anyway, Triumph independant rear suspension is really, really bad once you start hiking more power through it / lowering it / giving it grief  They do a Mk.2 development too...  Also allows for big, chunky brakes! That company also supplies SBC conversion kits and all appropriate parts to fit the Stag, so many useful bits there for you too (as quite a few are shared with the Snag  Lovely motor, ace plans! ;D
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Last Edit: Dec 23, 2006 14:30:16 GMT by Lewis
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Dec 25, 2006 13:55:26 GMT
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What a fantastic project! I can't wait to see the outcome. It's a bit of a shame to loose the sleeper look but I reckon the performance will more than make up for it |
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Dec 25, 2006 14:36:06 GMT
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this is a demon of a car, i love it as a 2500 owner that i am, may i ask was it much stress to get the rover v8 in at all, as for rear end upgrade, converting to a CVjoint setup from chris witor or BMW rear end would be a good choice due to the power, but if you can dial out the rear end twitch i think there is plenty of strength in the triumph parts if in good condition!
more pics if possible
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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... but its going to be an awesome car no matter what ... 
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