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Dec 16, 2006 10:01:56 GMT
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Always wondered how a Capri would get on in a front impact, I suppose theres a lot of front end there but you`d need to make sure the A-posts hadnt rotted or the front would end up where you are.
That 2cv in the truck test doesnt just fold - it vanishes, you just cant see it anymore by the time the Polo becomes a calzone, and afterwards - its just gone!
I think Smilers right about modern cars giving too much reassurance, I was in a Citroen C5 HDi yesterday that had just had 4 new Goodyears fitted, and despite the motorway being wet and busy it felt so safe and secure it was tempting to just gun it along at 110, I had to remind myself that I don't do things like that anymore. Thing is, in a 90mph smash I doubt the outcome for the occupant would be any different to that of the dummies in the Sierra, I think modern cars feel 10 times safer when in actual fact they are probably only a bit safer, making them more dangerous overall due to the false sense of security.
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Dec 16, 2006 10:06:16 GMT
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" local banger track wont let the following cars race in 1600 class as they are "too hard"
Cortina 3/4/5
Capri
Nissan Sunny/Bluebird
Toyotas (any)
The racers use escort 3/4 or cav 2/3, folk with sierras last about 2 laps unless well prepped. Speaks for itself, really! "
your right, that speaks volumes for crash testing
I wonder if there are any UK wide figures for makes/models of cars banger raced each week?
It would make interesting reading
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MWF
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Dec 16, 2006 15:45:47 GMT
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What I find particulary interesting is that as much as we are told to slow down and be safe it seems that miles of Britains high speed roads have trees and poles just meters from the roadside and no barriers.
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Dec 16, 2006 15:52:32 GMT
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too true, 4 teens in a Rover 200 Tomcat met a tree only last week. makes me glad I survived to be older and wiser....
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Dec 16, 2006 19:43:17 GMT
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Oh i did a telegraph pole! only at about 10-20 though blinded by the light! bashed the rotted fiesta and sent a ripple up the roof! Yee Ha, video coming up when i find and digitise it...  |
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andyj
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Dec 16, 2006 20:36:26 GMT
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Heres a couple of pics of when my mate hit a curb at 85mph, we rolled abit is what I can remember. I was in the passenger seat, check my door! The car was just 3 days old when this happened just as the 03 reg came out   |
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Last Edit: Dec 16, 2006 20:38:17 GMT by andyj
Yes that is me with roy walker in my avatar, TOUCH ME!!
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Reynolds501
Part of things
Volvos, they're boxy, but good.
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Dec 17, 2006 12:55:07 GMT
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Some truly horrific pics and videos, it's really sobering stuff. The other problem in accidents, which as far as I can tell no one has touched on yet is the effect of rapid de-acceleration on the human body, someone that doesn't look too badly injured at face value may have severe rupturing/displacement of vital organs, and serious, serious brain injuries. Brain injuries can occur through a variety of reasons, the most common being centrifugal/lift force which can throw the brain upwards against the skull, causing bruising and tearing. The other is cavitation, where the brain moves quickly through the cerebrospinal fluid allowing gas bubbles to form, when the brain moves back these bubbles collapse again allowing contact with the skull. You get to learn some 'interesting' stuff when you work in a pathology lab which is closely linked to A+E  That Video with the 2CV is pretty bad, but in all fairness, I don't think the Polo would have come off any better if it had been the first to get hit instead of the 2CV. Also, my mate has the 'hardest car in stoke', well, it's done pretty well so far! The worst and most recent accident was a full size articulated lorry performing the PIT maneuver on his MG ZR, it spun him right 'round on a dual carriageway at 50, and then hit him again on the same side! considering what it was hit by, it looks remarkably healthy! rear panel, door and front wing all dented. I think the fact it was wet helped to lessen the impact a lot though. Fortunately It's not a right off, it's not bent the chassis and it's currently going through insurance. However the truck driver is not taking responsibility for the accident so it may take a while  The other one was hitting a solid brick wall at around 30mph after some plank on a pushbike went straight off the pavement without looking in front of my mate, my mate swerved (twice, I think this guy was trying to get hit!), only lightly brushing said plank's arm with the wingmirror and then into said wall, the car just kinda stopped dead, surprisingly! again, hardly any damage considering what had happened, cracked front bumper, broken mounts on one foglight, scuffed headlight lense and some scuffing the the foremost bonnet edges where it had lightly kissed the bricks, and neither of us even suffered with stiff necks! Looking back, and however wrong some may think this is, both of us leaped out and were like, 'oh god, is the car alright?!' ;D the guy on the bike was fine, on all counts he was bloody lucky, as was were we. |
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The sudden stop!briandamaged
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Dec 17, 2006 13:26:47 GMT
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Just goes to show.....I think we're all guilty of thinking we're in a comfort zone when in a car, and any car, be it a 2CV or a Volvo, is only as safe as the person behind the wheel.
I drive about 50,000m a year...multiply that by the 18 years I've been driving trucks, plus private mileage, and I must have notched up 1,000,000 by now. In that time I've been fortunate, only one accident as a passenger (1986, head-on into a tipper at 60mph in a '79 Corolla...and I walked away) and one as a driver (shunted a Cav Mk2 up the ar$e in Basingstoke in 1996...my own stupid fault, broken headlight and bent bumper on the Transit I was driving, the Cav's doors wouldn't open)...so I must be either lucky, or due a big one.
I think driving standards are worse now than ever.....mainly due to the amount of electronic driver aids fitted to new cars...you can see drivers driving too fast, too close to the car in front, trusting the electronics to get them out of the doo-doo's if it all goes pear-shaped...and of course, it doesn't.
ABS/Emergency Brake Assist/Park Distance Control/Electronic Brake Force Distribution/Anti-Slip Control/Traction Control/Airbags/Side Impact Bars....none of them will save you if you don't use the single most important piece of road safety equipment. Your brain.
Have a Safe Christmas.
Brian
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Dec 17, 2006 19:49:58 GMT
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Making variables more dangerous is cameras on motorway, yes, we have established its deadly dangerous, but theres nowt like a you or another driver crapping themselves when the see a camera or van. I try keep my eyes on teh motorway and other drivers regardless of speed. Turns out gf's dumb ass prim and propper sister in law (who last year questioned my need for a snooper type device) got done by a camera van on motorway doing 82mph in a boring Megane, so you stand to lose something on the motor ways! Snapdragon, sounds like a complicated job. I watched that documentary about that guy who for got who he was on tv last week, wierd and interesting, damage like that can be caused s times by the brain bashing forward into the skull where points rupture it, Scaaaaary! Being drunk on BMX's years ago feels even more stupid now! |
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