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Nov 27, 2006 18:26:12 GMT
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hi, welcome aboard doubleclutch, i like this excuse to post up all the forums japenese cars. we don't get to see them all in one place very often. heres mine. 1979 mitsubishi sigma ge, midway through a 2.0 starion turbo conversion.  would be gratefull for any fotos of these on the road in japan , there a bit thin on the ground over here |
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I'm not paying nine pound for a pi$$!
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Nov 27, 2006 18:29:01 GMT
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Hi & Welcome DoubleClutch  Nice selection of motors you have there  |
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Nov 27, 2006 18:53:30 GMT
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Welcome to the forum DoubleClutch, hope you enjoy it!
Brian
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Nov 27, 2006 19:32:31 GMT
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Thanks for that  ...I thought our media/motoring writers were talking lies when they said to us in Britain that everyone in Japan scraps cars over Seven year old! Also is there still a big Mini following in Japan (B.M.C/ Austin and Morris) I remember in the late 80'S they seemed to be really popular in your country. |
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Nov 27, 2006 20:17:30 GMT
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"everyone in Japan scraps cars over seven years old". Not quite. My brother lives in Japan and when his Carina was 7 years old it was cheaper to buy a 3 year old Nissan than it was to pay for the "shaiken". You could keep it on the road but why would you? His Carina was sold basically for scrap. Perhaps doubleclutch can explain what Shaiken is as I have never understood if its a tax or an inspection like out MOT?
Also when my brother tried to get finance on a car he was told that the companies would only lend against cars less than (I think) 4 years old. So unless you are a cash buyer or have access to finance my brother can't get then you can't buy older modern cars there. He's managing director of a security company so its not like he's got bad credit... Certainly good enough creit to get a brand new Mercedes E class anyway...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 27, 2006 20:26:58 GMT
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As I understand it, the Shaken examination is basically like the MOT but much more critical about rust and things like that. I think in MOT style a big problem is passing the emissions tests. Another thing I read is that in Japan it's uncommon for people to work on cars themselves so they'd be paying for any work to be done and that's probably where it hits them.
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Nov 27, 2006 20:44:48 GMT
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It was going to be £4000 or something for the Carina. Lasts 3 years I think? He got a Nissan Primera for like £5000 and £100 for the Carina. Basically worked out better sense to buy the Nissan. There may have been an environmental tax as well or something. According to something I read they have to replace the whole brake and suspesnion and steering systems at the MOT or whatever, but my brother is't a car person so didn't know/care what was actually involved.
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Last Edit: Nov 27, 2006 20:45:56 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Nov 27, 2006 20:48:17 GMT
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Oh yeah another thing I heard is that people tend to pay a garage to take their car to Shaken for them as it's meant to be that much of a pain to sort out, forms to fill in etc. You can apparently save a lot of money doing it yourself.
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Nov 27, 2006 21:38:56 GMT
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My heart rate has just doubled again with all these pics. RR+DC is a right health hazard!
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all our j tin is coming out of the woodwork now. il join in, my mother has a k11((?) i know them as DC) micra.exotic, eh. ;D I'm forbidden any mods on it though. maybe when she's not looking. |
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Hi DoubleClutch, I like your blog I have had two J-cars in the last few years. First I had this 1982 RX-7. It was unmodified mechanically and I drove it every day for 4 years from 2001-2005.  Then I recently had this 1969 Luce 1500. It had a VB 1.8L engine from the first 929 but was otherwise standard with 4-wheel drum brakes and 3-speed automatic transmission.  I have a question about old cars in Japan: why are there so few Mazdas and RE Mazdas? Or do I just not see them when looking on people's websites? |
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1974 Saab 99 EMSI bought a new car. It's 35 years old. My friends said I was mad. We'll see.
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Nov 28, 2006 14:47:50 GMT
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It was a surprise for me.. you guys knows about Shaken  Yes, it's a legal inspection in Japan and will come to us every two years. Usually it costs around ¥170,000..expensive. But about 15 years ago, this law was more strict and all cars that was over 10 years old have to go Shaken every year, so many people used to gave up to keep using their car until 10 years. (That's why sometimes people say "Common Japanese doesn't use a car over 7 years.) Recently, that law was relaxed and now we go to the inspection every two years. Also Shaken will check everything of your car, so it will be fear for modified car owner like me...I replaced an engine of my car to L28 (from S130Z) but Japanese law doesn't allow me to do so. I have to put back original L20 to my car when I go to Shaken. Of course I can register my modified point officially along the law, but if I do so, I have to change my license plate. (Usually Japanese license plate is depending on the engine bore.) I don't want to lose my original old license plate, so my car will be always illegal forever  Thanks, |
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Nov 28, 2006 14:56:25 GMT
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170,000 Yen = £751 and some pennies.
The £4000 my brother was quoted must have included rectification work. I understand this test is very thorough. Also as he lived in Tokyo he had to pay some extra cost to have a permit to have a full sized car rather than like a micro-car or something. Something to do with not having a driveway to park it in. I preume this is just like residents on-street parking permits over here. He quit having a car at all for a while, but lives in the suburbs now and has a car again.
It struck me that he'slived in Japan for more than 10 years now. Time flies by! Funny also because when we were kids I always said I'd emigrate over to the US at the first opportunity and he said he'd never leave the UK. Now I'm still here and he's spent just over a third of his life in another country.
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...I thought our media/motoring writers were talking lies when they said to us in Britain that everyone in Japan scraps cars over Seven year old!
