Lately for 2 reasons I have been looking into Yank V8's (once again), partly because me and my good friend Max of Hot Rods by Max has been hanging around alot and during last winter I helped him with some minor stuff on his 34 3 window and we spent some time having serious fun with it this summer, he's now tearing it down and redoing paint and the motor, paint wil be flat black but the motor he's secretive about but my money is on more power in the Megasquirt, Paxton Novi 2000 powered Small Block. The other reason I'm buying Hot Rod Magazine and seriously looking at Chevy again is that I might just give myself a 50'th birthday present like an El Camino with some serious power and Rat Looks, I really wanted to go a big 8 liter 6 cylinder bright yellow Cat turbo diesel under the hood (dare to be different) but more likely is some form of supecharged Small Block....
Looking at what the Yanks do with supercharged V8's just amazes me, we have all here drooled over the Wheel to Wheel Powertrain Nova www.w2wpowertrain.com/t-novabuild-2.aspx but there are some stuff that beats that by miles. Over there thye run Hot Rod Pump Gas Drags, cars on pump gas (dohhh) and without NOS or other psycedelic drugs and the numbers some of the engine builders are seeing is just INSANE, just browsed through the Steve Morris Racing Engine web page and WOW they are doing 1636hp on pump gas (and some more on race gas), there are a bunch of motors from him doing well above 1000hp on pump gas and the shop is soooo clean you could probably eat on the floor, this stuff is just sooooo cool, I get verry distracted between this and those J Brat Style bikes I have not slept last night.....
1636 hp, say no more.....
1200hp 540 blown through a Holley!!!! In a (guess what??) El Camino....
1430hp 400 Chevy....
1800hp Small Block!!! OK so this one is on alcohol....
And these are not the only motors pumping out figures like that, what will be next??
Ahhh OK, some pix of Max's 34 3 window when we'r goofing off at a photo shoot for Drive Magazine....
Yepp that's me in the passenger seat holding on for dear life and beeing Skitskraj......
force fed yank muscle is always cool. I'm guessing these are ran from cold or something, the lack of intercoolers (I see one looks to have a charge cooler setup), is worrying. can't help think that if CR500dom or blownimp built one of these, they'd be a bit more powerful and probably usable. surely a blow through carb and no IC is a bit of a missed opportunity even a DTA based injection setup costs probably the same as a barry grant alcohol carb. don't get me wronbg, i'm sure these produce the goods, its just my opinion
what the hell is going on here? I can see a turbo, and bloody huge belt but then I'm lost
I 'think' what you can actually see is a supercharger. Working on the inlet to bung more air before combustion. Run by mechanical means from the engine.
Whereas a turbo obviously works on air pressure on the exhaust side.
Its a procharger centrifugal supercharger, its basically a belt driven supercharger
check out the size of the impellers!
The alcohol engines don't need intercooling as the alcohol has a very high specific heat capacity as it is. The other engines would benefit fro an intercooler, as a 1 degree drop roughly makes 0.5 - 1hp.
The thing is i really like makeing smaller engines do the same job, what you really want is one of these -
Any one of the above engine will make about 1000bhp relativly reliably for about £20K, most of that money is for the heritage!
I would love to make a 2000cc 1000bhp engine, and it wouldent be too difficult givent todays standards of engine control.
DP, i would go for the cat engine, that would be super ace! I have an idea thats been in my head for a while now of an 8/10th scale racing truck, based around a crash damaged 3l BMW with the common rail diesel engine. All of the suspension and drive line, matched to a spaceframe chassis and silly truck body.
blownimp in da house: DP, I would go for the cat engine, that would be super ace!
I have been doing some serious looking into fitting a Cat Diesel into the El Camino and it would be YBER cool but sadly for the money I have to spend for motor, fitting it, getting a trans to fit, doing the fuel (ehh diesel) system and having Huddinge Diesel Services breath on it I can just call Steve Morris Racing Engines and order up a brand spanking new 1200hp 540 Chevy, buy a Tremec 5 speed and all things needed and still have cash left to get some Ansen rims with cheater slicks, a paintjob and some odds & ends......
I have driven my fair share of small & big motor turbo cars and for some reason I'm done with that, I feel my next project must be a supercharged Big Block and after driving Max's supecharged small block, 4 speed 34 coupe I just have to say that the power from a correctly setup supercharged V8 is far superior to any small displacement turbo motor, imagine driving ca 600hp 34 Ford in 3 gear at 50kph and a turbo Volvo 16 valve Rally Cross Motor in a 142 rolls up and you just floor it and smokes that "popp woshhhhh weeee" sounding box. Sure those 1000hp Formula 1 turbo motors are wayyy cool but they would NOT do the job in an old Rat El Camino and not much else for that mather, it would be financial lunacy trying to first buy one then fit it in a car and much less going spanking it on the roads....
I just love to have a serious Diesel powered thingie, have had some plans to fit a Scania turbo diesel into my Volvo T21 tractor but it's in to good of a shape for that. Diesel power is cool and sounds awesome, have a fellow biker that drives a beat up red 98 VW Transporter with a seriously twaked VAG 5 cylinder turbo diesel and I just love to see him literally "smoke" nicer, newer and faster (according to the owners) cars than his old ugly van.....
DP says: I guess you get conservative with age......
An Icelandic team is currently getting 900bhp out of a 2l Impreza turbo engine. 1000bhp shouldn't be too tricky if you sacrifice some of the bottom end power it has.
Make a top tuel motor street drivable. Thats the ultimate win.
Theres magazine features aplenty on 1500 - 2000 BHP street V8s out there. Madness. So long as you have to money, power is not a problem. Its getting it to the street which is a problem. You imagine the clutch which can take 2000 BHP? Or the CROWNwheel taking a beating with 1500 lb of torque.... Momma
That coupe is the nads. Love it.
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adam in da house: 900bhp out of a 2l Impreza turbo engine. 1000bhp shouldn't be too tricky if you sacrifice some of the bottom end power it has.
Why even bother when with 540cubes and 1200hp on any Wednesday evening I can drive down to the gas station and fill up, drive the 70km to Västerås and street race all night, drive home park it and on Saturday again fill it up and drive the 90km to Tullinge Raceway, spend a day on the strip and on the way home go Cruising in Stockholm, pick up something nice and just cruise home. On Sunday morning (after church!?!?!) change the oil go for a spin with some friends and do some impromptu street race, go home park it and do it all over next week. Do that with a 1000hp Subaru!!!!! and at what cost?....
DP says: There's no substitute for cubic inches.....
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