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And at the risk of taking the political route... We have a government who have the biggest ever budget deficit, probably the highest rate of unemployment (in real terms) since the 1930s, an economy which has dipped back into recession, etc. etc. How is this a priority? If anything its taken a few hundred thousand MOTs out of the retail motor trade's coffers... If they have so many people sitting on their hands in the DfT perhaps they can transfer them over to DWP, DTI and DfE where they may actually do some good? Its not like we're all sitting around saying "well, there's nothing at all wrong with the country so lets invest in a 2 month consultation process on tinkering about with MOT regs... Theres nothing better we could be doing after all... Pretty much any policy area of any importance now rests within the competence of the EU with the consequence that our politicians have little freedom of action which is why we see "important" initiatives such as this. They have little or no powers to revitalise the economy or do any other worthwhile initiatives. They pretend of course that they are in charge, but the answer is always pre-determined by what the EU dictates. If you remember the talk last year of changing the MOT system to a 4-2-2 system (first MOT at 4 years old, and every two years thereafter) - that was EU driven as well. The EU put out a communication that it was considering harmonising MOT requirements across member states, so naturally the Government rushed to get out in front of it and put it out that it was considering changes to the law. As it happened, the EU decided not to proceed and the government was then able to claim credit for listening to the public in its consultation. If the EU changes its mind at some point though we'll see the same process happen all over again but with a different (pre-determined) outcome. We don't have a real government - just a very expensive Kabuki theatre
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May 23, 2012 10:32:56 GMT
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The way I see it is it will go something along these lines.
Insurance companies will not insure cars unless they have a current MOT.
However I am guessing that the current exemptions from the MOT for thing such as emissions, seat belts, side repeaters, mirrors etc on historic / classic vehicles will soon be scraped and there will be one set of MOT regulations….
So if you can’t insure your car without MOT you will either have to spend a lot of time and money getting it to pass an MOT or retire it to the garage for the rest of its life…
I feel that this could have more of an affect than just pre 1960 cars…
Just my thoughts!
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May 23, 2012 12:10:42 GMT
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The way I see it is it will go something along these lines. Insurance companies will not insure cars unless they have a current MOT. However I am guessing that the current exemptions from the MOT for thing such as emissions, seat belts, side repeaters, mirrors etc on historic / classic vehicles will soon be scraped and there will be one set of MOT regulations…. So if you can’t insure your car without MOT you will either have to spend a lot of time and money getting it to pass an MOT or retire it to the garage for the rest of its life… I feel that this could have more of an affect than just pre 1960 cars… Just my thoughts! That sounds extremely likely, restriction on use by the back door. Or a new clause in your insurance stating in the event of a nun's/ kittens coming together if you don't have a current MOT then you stand the first £xx million of the claim yourself.
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joda
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May 23, 2012 12:37:33 GMT
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The other thing is if you were an insurance company would you want to insure a car that needed no certificate of road worthiness? probably not unless the premium covered it Got to disagree with that, tractors and pre 1960 commercial vehicles [lorrys!] are already mot exempt, and seem to be doing ok & you don't need an HGV licence to buy or drive a pre 1960 HGV
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May 23, 2012 15:13:25 GMT
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Your a lot less likey to use a 1950's Tractor or lorry as a daily though aren't you so they don't do the mileage as cars of the same era do.
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May 23, 2012 22:49:44 GMT
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I am not sure how the government have found time to make this a priority !
I have mixed feelings as the car still has to be legally road worthy and a MOT at least proved that on that day less than a year ago it was. Now the owner will have much more of a responsibility to demonstrate all is well.
I should be happy it theory I am £50 a year better off, why do I feel that it can not be that easy!
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To infirmity and behond.
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Apparently with regards to the registration transfers, I read that you will have to MOT the car if you want to transfer the reg off it.
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