Saru
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Saw these around and about over the last few weeks. All pics taken between 8am and 6pm Monday to Friday so these cars are all people's daily drivers. Yes, even the Cit. The "P" plate indicates that the driver is on a provisional licence and so is most likely quite young. Done with a brush. I dunno whether to be sad that a lovely old Cit has been attacked this way or happy that it's still getting about. I'm leaning towards happy.   Lovely Falcon. Vented bonnet indicates V8.  There are stacks of these Corollas getting about still.  Standard Brisbane "tow away zone" sign features generic retro car   Pug 505.  Holden/Isuzu Gemini.  Honda Legend. There are often other Hondas in this same location -- I like to fancy that they are owned by one dude who is a collector of sorts.  Mazda 808. Black and white plates would seem to indicate that it has been continually registered since new.  Late 80s/early 90s civic. I don't know but I believe these go quite hard and are usually driven by grey-haired old ladies. Finding a manual one might be the hard part.  Corolla and 80s Accord in traffic  Beaten up CROWN  Subaru Brumby ute.  Yet another Civic.  80s Prelude. Factory twin carbs on this model.  Pug 205si  Mitsubishi Colt -- used to be heaps of these about but have disappeared in the last few years. Sedans even more so than the more common hatch.  Lovely 2500  HB 929 sedan. These are cheap as really cheap things.  Enjoy! |
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Last Edit: Nov 8, 2006 7:10:24 GMT by Saru
1974 Saab 99 EMSI bought a new car. It's 35 years old. My friends said I was mad. We'll see.
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qwerty
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My desire to move to Australia is really growing!!
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Ace pictures  You say in some case's "these are getting rare etc." WHY is that so? Reason I ask is in my country 'salty and damp' Britain things/bodywork rusts to nothing hence stuff 'desolves' and vanishies, but in nice dry and hot Australia body work would last for many decades (40+) hence surely cars have a VERY long life   |
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King Maz
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Yes, but the accident potential is still there.
The UK's combination of damp saltiness (!?), millions of drivers and no road space is creating a marque graveyard where 20yo cars can be heading for uniqueness.
I'm loving the 808 and I'd suggest that if the youth has taken a brush to the DS then the bodywork couldn't have looked the best to start with. You'd have no trouble finding it the car park!
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JC
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Done with a brush. I dunno whether to be sad that a lovely old Cit has been attacked this way or happy that it's still getting about. I'm leaning towards happy. Happy i reckon, it's still being used, and to put that amount of work into it means someone is quite into it. i wanna get one of them and turn it into the taxi from back to the future 2:  |
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How much do I want that Falcon?!
Dammit, all these pics from down under are making me jealous for two reasons:
1: There seems to be many more retros in daily use than here in the UK. Makes journeys far more interesting than the bumper-to-bumper blandness of new cars we get on UK roads.
2: The weather. Because bodywork lasts much longer down under, and it isn't grey, damp, cold and miserable like it is here at the moment!
Lucky b@strads! ;D
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Oh, and I don't mind the Citroen paint job... I wouldn't do it myself (Satin black with moon discs FTW!) but like you say, at least it's getting used. I love those things.
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Nice pic's Saru. Even the stuff hiding in the background is interesting, though there's an awful lot that's similar to what we get. Different rear light treatment on the N13 Sunny/Pulsar, or is it some odd Button Plan Holden version? |
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Could just be a rubbish aftermarket cover, SL  |
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Some good spots, Falcon looks ace, never heard of a Mazda 808, is it a predecessor to 818? Just realised how few 505s are around these days, never seen a 4-door "Mirage" style Colt before either. Also noticed a new shape Impreza with standard wheels and no whale tail, probably the rarest thing of all!
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I love that DS - ideally I'd have that one exactly as it is plus a mint stocker |
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yeah I think the maz '808 state' is actually a 818.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT! |
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Nice one.
LOVE the Citroen
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Saru
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Re 808/818: they are the same car in the same way that the Capella/616 are the same. Re the late 80s Pulsar: It's a Nissan version and those are the standard lights. The Holden "Astra" badge-engineered versions are quite rare and have probably been sacrificed to keep various Pulsars running! IIRC the N13 Pulsar was the 2nd last one actually assembled in Australia, the early series of N14s was the last before Nissan pulled out of Australian manufacture and became a pure importer. SL: that's some heavy-duty car-nerd-ism to be in the UK and know about the Button plan. I'm way impressed! I say the "Astra" Pulsars are rare because when a mate and I were talking about buying a $500 car for use in motorkhanas (autotests I think you call them -- tarmac and traffic cones) one would have been great -- enough nissan bits to be reliable, the same Holden-made "family 2" engine as the Camira to be easy to fix if it blew up and greatly unloved as an orphan of Button. There were none around.  Ace pictures You say in some case's "these are getting rare etc." WHY is that so? Reason I ask is in my country 'salty and damp' Britain things/bodywork rusts to nothing hence stuff 'desolves' and vanishies, but in nice dry and hot Australia body work would last for many decades (40+) hence surely cars have a VERY long life In addition to what kingmaz said: things like the Colt/Mirage (we never called them Mirage's) are just about on the negative side of the depreciation scale. Yes, things last a lot longer here and yes the average age of the national "fleet" is older because of that but the vast majority of people are getting about in post 1990 blandness. And "old" car here for the majority of the population is >10 years old, not <5 like for you guys in the UK (as is my understanding). It's also quite dry here, except when and where it's not. North of Sydney and on the coast it's very humid and being the coast there is salt in the air rather than on the roads. The ideal older car comes from one of the larger inland cities like Canberra -- where there are enough specialised mechanics to keep unusual things going and where it actually is dry. |
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1974 Saab 99 EMSI bought a new car. It's 35 years old. My friends said I was mad. We'll see.
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Saru
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Nice pic's Saru. Even the stuff hiding in the background is interesting, though there's an awful lot that's similar to what we get. That's because all we make here now are Falcons, Commodores and Camrys. Everything else comes on a boat from Europe or Japan (or the US but we don't get much at all from there and quite a lot of US-badged stuff that we get is made in Europe anyway, IIRC). We get weird spec stuff compared to what you all get. For the most part we miss out on the smaller (sub 1.8L) engines that you all see in Corolla/Golf sized cars and all the Euro stuff we get is skewed towards the luxury end of the spectrum. The vast majority of people get about in FWD Japanese and, increasingly, Korean, tin. Not much diesel action here either -- D is actually more expensive that petrol! But still cheaper than what you pay. |
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1974 Saab 99 EMSI bought a new car. It's 35 years old. My friends said I was mad. We'll see.
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It feels very wierd on here, everything seems normal everyday to me(apart from that citroen). Was having a bit of a fang a couple of weeks ago in a civic like the white one with about 20 thousand original k's on the clock. Was a minta and went hard considering.
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Corollin' along
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Re the late 80s Pulsar: It's a Nissan version and those are the standard lights. The Holden "Astra" badge-engineered versions are quite rare and have probably been sacrificed to keep various Pulsars running! IIRC the N13 Pulsar was the 2nd last one actually assembled in Australia, the early series of N14s was the last before Nissan pulled out of Australian manufacture and became a pure importer. SL: that's some heavy-duty car-nerd-ism to be in the UK and know about the Button plan. I'm way impressed! Don't know whether to be flattered ;D or embarrassed  I understand the conecpt behind it, though can't say I'm fully intimate with what it actually resulted in. Got some info on it in an Oz-spec Skyline R31 press release. I guess it's what gave birth to monstrosities like the Nissan Ute? |
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Thankfully John Button went the way of old Rumsfeld,out to pasture ,otherwise we would have had three maunfacturers making reallly bland cars....OH RIGHT !,we only have Ford ,GM and Mitsubishi......
The Falcon with the hood scoops is a "GS" option pack and is a ' XA -XB - XC model . Not very common now and good ones are either owned by Retro people or oldies who bought them new.
The scoops don't actually mean a V8 as you could buy a Falcon in any configuation with the scoops.
Older cars are getting scrapped wholesale in Brissy because the price of scrap steel is really high.Tow truck operators make a mint by offering to take your old car away Free...they then head straight out to Rocklea where they get up to $180 for it.A good operator can make up to $1000 per day profit!!!.
That DS citroen is up on High gate hill?, i've seen it there quite often and being close to the high school it probably belongs to teacher ,or otherwise some hippie, being close to Westend and all... ;D
And yes those cars are everyday cars here,look really close in the traffic and you will see some really retro cars from the fifities etc being driven daily.
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Many years ago I changed my driving style to cope with rising fuel prices; I have now reached the stage where I am contemplating keeping my eyes shut in order to lower wind resistance.
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Saru
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Ah, yes, you are correct about the scoops being optional. I took the pic of the DS at Kelvin Grove near the university. I had imagined hairy-armpitted hippie girl, myself. I saw a lovely late-60s Toyota CROWN ute in the burbs yesterday. Still on original (not repro!) black plates and with the original hub caps. It was in well used but also well loved condition. And there's regularly an Austin A30 at a train station in similar condition. A short list of Button-plan monstrosities: Badge-engineered version (real version) [clarifying comments] Nissan Ute (Ford Falcon ute) [but Ford weren't selling utes at the time. Weird] Ford Maverick (Nissan Patrol) [Fully imported Patrols had blue ovals slapped on them] Holden Astra (Nissan Pulsar) [N12 and N13 versions. Oz built] Holden Nova [AE92-ish Toyota Corollas, but only the bob-tailed hatch and sedan, not the longer-backed "Seca" and not the good engines, only the basic 1.6. Oz built] Holden Apollo [Toyota Camry in the last of the small generation and then first of the "wide-body" generation. Oz built] Toyota Lexen [VR/VS Commodores with mildly different grilles and tail-lights and horrible alloys. Holden only gave Toyota the V6, keeping the V8 versions for itself.] Those are all that spring to mind at the moment. The R31 Skyline and VL Commodore shared the RB30 engine because the 202ci Holden 6 couldn't be made suitable for unleaded fuel (or that is my understanding and I am probably wrong). I hadn't associated that with the Button plan until now. More, inevitably, at wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button_Plan |
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Last Edit: Nov 10, 2006 0:10:12 GMT by Saru
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