BOILING BLOOD!

I have no problem with any of the above except TAX.

Maybe they should concentrate on making it really expensive for all the muppets on the road so they can tax considerate drivers less.

I say considerate, that also includes people with enough observation skills not to get caught ;D

i have always thought that someone has missed a trick or two,why not add say 5p a litre on fuel,scrap the road tax and replace it with mot and insurance discs in the screen.this means that the high mileage reps pay more than the little old lady down the road who goes to the hairdressers once a week.speed cameras are basically a disgrace and should only be near schools and hospitals and the like.possesion tax and change of ownership tax is purely just a money spinner.
it seems that they are intent on destroying any vestige of motoring still left in this country,the car industry has all but gone and soon no-one will be able to afford to run a car,no cars,no dealers,no garages and bodyshops,no car hire,no petrol stations and millions back on the dole.

seriously though, whats wrong with enforcement cameras?
I'm not the most law abiding driver, i admit it. I'm sure we all speed sometimes.
But ive never been done for speeding etc, there really not that hard to avoid.

Ive been driving 11 years and still have a clean license.
I got done for dangerous driving on a motorbike when i was 17, but thats all. £60 fine and no points. It was a silly charge anyway, hardly dangerous

I'd be quite gratefull if they could stop people that clog yellow boxes, they curse word me right off. As do bus lane users and people turning left from the right lane etc.
Fine all the muppets and give the reat of us 'cash back' each year if we have no convictions ;D

I used to drive in north/east/central london, its only all the muppets that make it such a nightmare!

Well said Andy! I used to work at the SMMT and in '97, when TB's mob came in, there was all the posturing of helping/loving/understanding the motor industry and motoring.

That was never to be.

Look what happened recently with Peugeot and compare it with the MG Rover closure: Blair and merry men hop up and down to try and save MG Rover (nowt to do with being near Election time of course) - Peugeot then says it will have to close Ryton and Govt does nothing, saying it's a "commercial issue"!

Down here - and it's the same in the Midlands - maany small component suppliers went to the wall, and I could weep for the loss of jobs we've seen as a result. What do expect from a public school and Oxford educated barrister who probably never visited a factory 'til he was an MP?

Blah blah blah

I heartily expect some whinging from the british public plus some slightly pointless soundbites from 'motoring organisations'*....

Then just roll over and take it in the ass.

If you don't like, it, change it. If democracy don't work (which it doesn't here now that you are voting for the same people with different coloured badges), make it work.

So they want to charge you, me, everybody £1 a mile to drive on the M25 when we've all paid our RFL already?

Just don't pay it. If NO ONE pays it, what are they gonna do? Put us all in jail?? I think not.
But we're all to wet for that aren't we.

PS. I agree with fining losers who cannot understand box junctions, they are slightly below cockroaches and slightly above daily mail readers in my estimation.

Oh and PPS * etc. ----- anyone noticed how the RAC (Royal Automobile Club??) is now an 'Aviva Company'. Like the people who own Norwich Union etc. So be fully prepared to have your car fixed at the roadside by someone in an Indian Call centre, all whilst they are nicking your credit card details and going for a jolly.

erm,i work for norwich union/rac and i'm deffo in the uk,
oi ! singh pass the chutney son ;D

..... and become a roadside camera operative!

I think it's right that we should do something about this, and I'm joining the ABD because they're pretty strong already, and if a few of us get on board and help at least we know we're trying to do something. If we stand idly back we'll soon see the end of events like the VCC's London to Brighton Run, the Brighton Speed Trials, night rallies and so on, not to mention everyday driving.

My biggest problem is Road Fund License - or whatever you want to call it. I'm by no means the worst on here, but I have been taxing 3 cars and 2 motorbikes for several years now. Add onto that the insurance for them all, and my 'hobby' is costing the best part of a month's take home pay each year. It's actually more than I spend on my mortgage.....

I've had 3 speeding tickets over the years, too. First one was a deliberate money-making scam, 2nd one was kind of justified - although why a dual carriageway was a 30mph limit I'll never know - the only justification was that it was only half a mile from Northampton town centre. My last one was definitely not justified - 57mph in a 50mph limit. Good visibility, light traffic, Sunday afternoon. I don't mind the fine so much, but the points hurt.

I'm glad I now have a company car as it means I don't have to worry about 1 of the cars - I'd probably have had to sell the 75 if I hadn't been given a car. Having said all that, I'm getting shafted for company car tax on something *I need to do my job*. Fair enough, tax the 'perk' cars used by office-based staff who only use it to drive a few miles to the station / office every day - but taxing someone who does over 30k miles / year for work purposes seems more than a little harsh.

Just to compound things, I have an outstanding failure to declare SORN fine - caused by a failure of the online SORN system - I did 3 vehicles on the same day, 2 of which went through OK, the last of which didn't. I had a letter to fine me, explained that I'd done it online - received a letter telling me to forget about it but to declare SORN again. This I did, but they've now conveniently forgotten they'd told me not to worry about the fine and have got the sharks chasing me for payment. I gave away the bike in question so no longer have any documents and can't prove they told me to forget about the fine....... argh!