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Mar 29, 2014 13:29:41 GMT
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Liking the Black interior i must say.
Go to pound shop type places and get a couple of black doormats,depending on the type you get you can use spray adhesive/double sided tape etc to fix them on.
Now strip the shell and mount it on a range rover chassis ......... I'll get me coat .....
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Mar 29, 2014 18:38:43 GMT
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Hey, if anyone wants what's left of the shell when I'm done with it, I'm happy to sell it to them for whatever scrap turns out to be. This would look unbelievable mounted on a Rangey chassis or similar. --- Started early today so I could finish early. Getting the wheels off was a bit of a challenge as the driver's side were dogged up so tight even the 4' breaker bar struggled and passenger side wheels hadn't been off in such a long time that the nuts had started to rust to the studs under the nut covers. Got there in the end and I now have a spare set of steel wheels to refurbish with tyres on that need binning. Got the bonnet off and I'm deeming it scrap/repair panel material. The rusty hinge mount had a seized bolt, the head of which sheared off, and the rest of the bonnet is reasonable but not great. Distributor and side repeaters removed easy peasy and had another go at the front trim and headlight fixings to no avail, going to have to get the drill on those. I wanted to liberate the windscreen if at all possible, they're made almost entirely of unobtanium. Luckily, in some ways, the windscreen seal was perished on this car and letting water in so it was a fairly simple task to cut through the seal and carefully lift the screen free. The rear screen put up more of a fight, mainly because I wanted to save the exceptionally good seal. Again, rear screens and seals are made of the rarest of materials and well worth preserving and I'm glad success was had, even if it did take three of us to liberate it safely. The glass has been put in a Safe Place but I'm still terrified of breaking it. These are being kept in stock because I know the rear screen at least needs to be removed and I don't want to risk having no screen to refit. With the screen out I could inspect the rear surround and I'm delighted to report that it has good solid metal where the beige one isn't so clever. I'll cut these sections out as they may make repairing the surround on the beige car easier when I get that done. You can see on this side what happens if you do nothing about the rust you can't see under the vinyl trim. There's still enough for the repair I need to make though. Bottom on the driver's side is on its way out. These little round trim clips I haven't been able to find a supplier for. Since I'm putting the C pillar top trim back on I'm going to keep remove them. These are one of those fiddly little items you need and can never find. Bottom of the passenger C pillar had a rusty patch, once the vinyl and waist trim were removed it became a hole. There was another hole lurking completely hidden from view under the vinyl further to the front too. Again, the beige car is good here. Once useful discovery is that if I can get to the rivets on the beige car the rear vinyl trim on the parcel shelf can be removed without taking the rear screen out. I had assumed that the vinyl tucked into the screen seal as it did elsewhere but since it doesn't that's going to be easy to resolve. I also removed and kept the two white vinyl C pillar trims that tidy the small piece of metal between the removable trims and the rear screen seal. Headlining out, complete, without damage. The wires holding it up are really substantial. I'll be taking a pattern so I can make new headlinings and the one from this car will be cleaned and put with the HLS for the new owner to experience the joy of fitting. Front driver's side corner has a practically new set of pads and a very good disc, there's barely any wear at all so I doubt they did more than about fifty miles on it. The track rod end has utterly disintegrated and of no use. The brake hoses look in good condition and the inner arch plastics are reasonable if not perfect. Passenger side brakes are a different story, they've seen a lot of use and I'll likely only save the caliper to refurbish on this side and the hoses which again look in reasonable order. At the back the rear axle proved fairly easy to remove. The rebound strap mount on the inner arch is good both sides so I'll chop those out in case they can be used to repair the HLS. The brake hoses came apart nicely, and everything looks healthy and, for the most part, as though it's been apart in the not too distant past. Dropping the axle was a doddle, no seized bolts or any of that nonsense and the only problem thus far has been very tight hydragas unions, I didn't want to battle those today so that's a job for tomorrow. Best of all, the pivot shafts are free moving as they should be which means I can remove and regrease them before fitting this axle to the beige car. That was about all I had the energy to do today, but it's a good chunk more sorted. There was a really healthy amount of pressure in the hydragas system, the pipes look in excellent shape and all the spheres are good. I'll inspect the rear drums but may end up putting this axle straight on to the beige car with the brakes and everything as they are after checking it's all working properly. End of play I dropped the bonnet back in place and we'll do this all again tomorrow.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:59:19 GMT
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Amazing...! Sad, but amazing...!!!
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***GARAGE CURRENTLY EMPTY***
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Mar 29, 2014 20:19:14 GMT
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No, it's not sad! Think about it. This car was destined for the oval or to rot in obscurity in a barn or to be squashed for however much the metal weighed to get some cash. This fate is far from sad, and breaking the car in front of the red one might make it buck its ideas up a bit.
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qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member
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Club RR Member Number: 52
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Mar 29, 2014 20:25:27 GMT
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Excellent work. A lot of good spares. Get those calipers sold to liberate some extra cash!
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Mar 29, 2014 20:44:30 GMT
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Hi Mr Vulgalour, it may be worth looking at some of the bigger mini spares websites for those riveted trim clips, they look the same as those holding on the Fablon trim on my clubman estate. Unsure if size is the same though, but it may be worth checking out ?
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1982 Granada 2.8 Ghia X - SOLD ☹️ 1976 Mini Clubman Estate - Getting there slowly.
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Mar 29, 2014 21:26:41 GMT
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qwerty: I'm going to get them refurbed, put them on the beige car and then get the ones I remove refurbed before selling them. Takes a bit longer, but should generate maximum return. Granadamk2: I shall measure and investigate. Thank you for the tip. Also, have you a picture of your clubman estate I can enjoy?
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qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 2,417
Club RR Member Number: 52
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Mar 29, 2014 21:28:25 GMT
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qwerty: I'm going to get them refurbed, put them on the beige car and then get the ones I remove refurbed before selling them. Takes a bit longer, but should generate maximum return. Sounds like a good plan.
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I would be rich if i had not spent so much money on Cars and fast women...oh, i did waste some of it as well!
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Mar 30, 2014 11:31:30 GMT
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I have. Bresco are my first port of call for fixings but the last few times I've checked they've had nothing similar. They do appear to have the waistline clips I need, I just need to check the measurements so I get the right size for the lower C-pillar and boot trim.
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Mar 30, 2014 17:55:29 GMT
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restoration show at the NEC fortnight sat/sunday!
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I would be rich if i had not spent so much money on Cars and fast women...oh, i did waste some of it as well!
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Mar 30, 2014 19:19:44 GMT
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I think I'm getting dragged along to that whether or not the beige one has an MoT, my other half is in the restoration business and is planning to attend in his GT6 I think. I can't rightly remember. As long as I don't have to drive in/near Birmingham I don't care what the plan is.
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Mar 31, 2014 11:17:53 GMT
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No, it's not sad! Think about it. This car was destined for the oval or to rot in obscurity in a barn or to be squashed for however much the metal weighed to get some cash. This fate is far from sad, and breaking the car in front of the red one might make it buck its ideas up a bit. I think the breaking of any car is sad (but then I am quite stupid)!!! I understand that this vibrant Wedge was well beyond saving though, so what is happening to it is the best all-round solution. I completely agree that what is being done here is the best way for this car to live on and to ensure that others of its kind live on also. Breaking ain't good but when it's got to be done the Huge Furry-Eatsitall approach is best... USE EVERYTHING!!! And that is quite clearly what you're doing, nothing is going to go wasted... A fitting end to a lovely old motor...
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***GARAGE CURRENTLY EMPTY***
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Bit more work on Orange Slice today, in part to make it look like I'm actually doing something and because I needed to use one of the axle stands it's sat on. Three of the doors are salvagable and worth keeping whole rather than stripping bare so I took those three off. I also unbolted the trailing edge of the wing I'm removing and found the rivetted patch on the bottom is actually a big piece of lead sheet. Passenger front door is pretty good. It's had some clumsy stonechip repairs all over the door as have the others, but on the rot front it's not too bad. These doors do seem to survive the best on Princesses. Driver's door is slightly worse than the one on the beige car presently. I'm keeping this one in stock as it's repairable, but it's a bit far gone for me to be comfortable selling it to someone as a replacement unless their door is utterly ruined. Rear driver's door is okay but needs more work still. This is fairly standard corrosion from what I've witnessed before. Beige car's one of these is much better so it's another one I'm keeping back to repair at a later date. With the Orange Slice back on one wheel, I trundled the beige car down the drive to get the rear bearing and brakes sorted. I was hoping to get both sides done but the weather decided otherwise. Delightful array of decrepitude on display here. Princess Safari edition never got past prototype phase. With the hub off I could have a look at the rear brakes on the passenger side, made sense to start here as this is the bearing that had failed. The new brake shoes look barely used even by new brake shoe standards and I reckon I was lucky if this side was doing anything at all. Tweaked the adjuster to get them to grip well enough to make the hub difficult to refit and while the handbrake and footbrake is improved it's still not good enough. I'll repeat on the other side, I wonder if it's the quality of the shoes more than anything at this stage, they were very cheap and comparing them to the ones I collected from Derby they look to be of questionable quality when side by side. The old bearing was very easy to remove and unsurprisingly sloppy. The new one was surprisingly easy to fit, even though I had to be careful-old-school with a hammer and a flat blade screwdriver to ease the inner and outer bearings into place with plenty of fresh grease. Once I got the old bearing out it was evident someone had repacked it with grease, presumably to get a bit extra life out of it, so I cleaned all of that out. I also cleaned the grease out of the hub cap which, according to the manual, shouldn't be packed. Put the wheel back on, started to jack the car up off the axle stand and then noticed it crawling back. WAY too late I realised I'd forgotten to put the handbrake back on after fitting the hub and the car gracefully fell off the jack, knocked the axle stand over - without causing even a scratch, thankfully! - and stopped only when it had squished my new pot of grease. I've been overdue a stupid moment like this. and after a bit of tweaking I could get the lid back on the grease pot so no harm done. Annoyingly it then bucketed it down with rain so I had to down tools rather than doing the other rear bearing and brake. Until I can get the car to hold on the handbrake on the steepest part of the drive I'm not going to be satisfied with their efficacy, it will almost hold now rather than just point blank refusing so I reckon I've made some improvement.
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Did I just miss something there?
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I've not taken a silver fascia apart, but I suspect it'll be the same as the later wooden ones.
1 - Remove top rail. This should just pull off but may be on firmly. I think you've got the three piece rail so you'll need to pull the side vent trims off and then the centre trim. 2 - Remove the ashtray to the right of the steering wheel, unscrew the bracket if you feel it's in your way. If you still have it, unscrew/remove the black trim board that fits over the steering column (not the plastic shroud). Unplug the three chunky plugs on the bulkhead behind this. 3 - Remove the heater slider knobs and the turny air direction knob, these should just pull off but the slider knobs can be tricky. 4 - Unscrew the 6-10 screws around the padded binnacle which should should then be free and you should be able to wiggle it out past the steering wheel and get to the back of it all.
If the fuel gauge and the clock don't work it could be a bad connection on one of the bulkhead plugs, a break in a wire as suggested, a blown bulb or a bad earth. Funnily enough, my seatbelt warning light has conked out recently and my battery telltale has stopped working too, I suspect blown bulbs because everything else works as it should. Oh, and my headlight switch doesn't always switch my dial lights on but always switches my headlights on. More often than not, electrical issues on Princesses are the fault of damp, poor connections, blown bulbs and dodgy earths. If it's none of those, things sometimes just start working on their own anyway.
Resto day at the NEC is on the weekend of 11th of April and I shall be there on the 13th. If there's anything of use in my stores that I could bring for you I'd be happy to do so providing it'll fit in the little car I'll be passenger in.
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Last Edit: Apr 3, 2014 22:18:27 GMT by Deleted
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Did I just miss something there? No, I posted something about your brakes - then realised I was wrong -doh!
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Someone pointed out over on another forum that the trailing shoe is on upside down and there's a good chance they're correct. Please feel free to point out anything you think might be wrong with these brakes because now instead of being rubbish, I've got this side sticking on as I found out yesterday. Not driven the car since, and won't be doing until I have another look at it.
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Bit of grindygrindy today. Originally, I was going to strip the shell and weigh it in but I have time against me, as usual so it's proving quicker to chop the shell up and trailer it to the scrapyard to weigh in that way. I'll keep the front end intact so I can strip components I need off it at leisure as I have almost everything I need off the rest of the car now. I removed the remaining door, roof and B pillars first. The roof will be used for repairing the beige car. Turns out the repairs to the floor on the orange car was done by cutting the bottom of the front wings off - where the lead flashing is rivetted on - and using that metal. Removing the driver's side sill was a nightmare. It had been rivetted, welded, fibreglass and bodyfillered on over some of the original sill but not all of it. We managed to get everything but the bit that closes on the A pillar off in one piece, the key part I need is the trailing edge and that came off lovely. We weren't so careful with the other sill but I'll liberate the same trailing edge and may save some of the rest, I do have an unused partial sill that was liberated from the car @dugong tipped me off about so it's not a total loss. With the sill off and just about all structural integrity now gone, we could make a start cutting through the floor. The exhaust was knackered, as were the brake lines and while the hydragas pipes are okay, they're not perfect. I have managed to save the rear hydragas lines, and the front lines are untouched so it's only the straight centre sections that are scrap. Floor was cut so that the gear selector box didn't have to be split from the car. Princesses are nose-heavy, as it happens, as demonstrated in this shot. Ran out of time and discs to do more, but I did get the shell up on its side to inspect underneath and there's rot everywhere you don't want it. The extent of the rust bug is fairly comprehensive, much more so than the beige car, and it demonstrates just where and how they like to rust. The petrol tank has a large rust hole by the sender. The floors had rotted out over both jacking points quite comprehensively, the rear corners which had been plated also had galloping rot that had spread into the inner sill, the old outer sill, the rear arches both inner and outer and was merrily going through the underside of the car as if it were an ADO16. It would have been a lot of work to put this right so I'm really glad I made the decision to break this one rather than the beige car. Tomorrow I collect welding supplies and more cutting discs so I can get this rear half cut down and weighed in, shouldn't take too long. Everything from the A-pillar back is so light that I can move it on my own so I probably won't get much when I weigh it in. The rest of the coming week is going to be devoted to getting rid of the bits of the orange car I don't need and getting as much work as possible done on the beige one.
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Last Edit: Apr 6, 2014 20:06:20 GMT by Deleted
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