qwerty
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Coilover Help.qwerty
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Nov 16, 2011 19:51:24 GMT
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I have this little blighter as a daily:  I lowered it on Rokkor Coilovers. It looks great, but the ride is harsh! I was fine with the ride for the past few months, but its starting to grate. I was wondering if any of the suspension Guru's (Dez, VIP, Seth Etc) could give me any tips on helping the ride? Changing the Spring Rates? Chopping the bump stops down? What can I do to help it? Or is it just a case of saving up for some decent Coillies? |
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CIH
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Nov 16, 2011 20:41:21 GMT
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Decent Coillies. Cheap coilovers are always over sprung and under dampened.
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Dez
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Coilover Help.Dez
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Nov 16, 2011 20:57:19 GMT
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well, the FKs on our lupo were nigh on 600 quid, yet i rate the racelands ive had on every other VW ive ever had over them, hands down  cheap ones may be harder, but these are just too bloody soft! front- for that ride height on a lupo/arosa, you need to be running pretty much no bumpstop. a 10mm sliver to stop them blowing when bottomed, and thats it. if you have bumpstops in them at the mo, they will ride pretty cr4p. bin the placcy dust covers and the plastic spacer ring, they only get chewed up when running that low anyway. you shouldnt need to remove the helpers though. as for the back, theres little you can do to soften it up. is it the front or the back youre having issues with? |
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qwerty
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Coilover Help.qwerty
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Nov 16, 2011 21:01:43 GMT
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Front is the issue, back is fine, and lower now as its only the spring left in there.
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Nov 16, 2011 22:28:25 GMT
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I still have your standard springs and dampers.....
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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will930
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Nov 16, 2011 23:24:08 GMT
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i have the same problem on my micra, running corsa coilovers! but i still have bigish tyres which dampern a little, and i had to ad another bump stop in the rear as with any weight i couldnt get very far! and I'm using std cut rear springs which are soft!
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ChasR
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Coilover Help.ChasR
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Nov 16, 2011 23:39:50 GMT
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Decent Coillies. Cheap coilovers are always over sprung and under dampened. If they are anything like the GMax coilovers comfy of any sort seems not to be an option IME. |
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RobinJI
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Nov 17, 2011 23:09:35 GMT
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I've got to say that the spring and damping rates on the TA Technix coilovers on my Scirocco are pretty spot on. Ok they won't perform like a posh coilover, but for a budget road car they're spot on. The Rokkors on my MX-5 were under-damped, but sprung pretty nicely, if anything a little soft for big drops. The lacking damping did mean that they got a bit bouncy on undulating roads, but in normal driving they were pretty good, certainly worth what they cost!
As Dez says, if you want to run that low then trim the bump stops right down to 10-15mm, and remove the other curse word, you wan't all the travel you can get. Trimming the bump stops on the Scirocco made a very noticeable difference.
It's also worth checking that the helper springs are fully compressed under just the cars weight. It's unlikely as you only have them on the front, but the rears on my Scirocco were actually supporting the rear slightly (maybe 10mm travel in them), meaning you got a crash as they went coil-bound and the main spring started to compress, removing them helped the ride quality quite a lot. As I said though, it's very unlikely on the front, but worth a look.
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Last Edit: Nov 17, 2011 23:11:11 GMT by RobinJI
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qwerty
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Coilover Help.qwerty
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Nov 18, 2011 21:21:27 GMT
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Cheers hot the pointers. Going to have a look tomorrow. Hopefully I'll improve it.
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