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The draft of the new 2012 MoT manual is now available to download here - it's a lot more detailed and user friendly than the old version and contains a lot of useful stuff. (including the answers to questions like I fitted HID bulbs but have no washers/levelers, will it pass...) Unfortunatly, it's a 208 page pdf document with no hyperlinks.....
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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the emphasis is mine
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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the emphasis is mine Sh*tsticks. Time to keep a set of stock MOT springs then. Quite how the tester will be able to tell a lowering spring from one that has been chopped I don't know. Both springs would have been cut at some point, so if the cut is clean enough I don't see how it can be proven that it was cut in a garage and not a factory.
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Last Edit: Nov 3, 2011 20:04:25 GMT by BenzBoy
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If you read the whole paragraph carefully, it says that being incomplete is ONLY a fail IF the spring doesn't work or doesn't re-seat.
So chopped springs are legal unless they fall out.
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^exactly.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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stealthstylz
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Finally clarification that chopped springs are legal. In your face pistonheads lol.
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and indeed a bought short spring could fail the MOT for the same reason...
And I thought that this was always the case anyway, this is just a more explicit statement of the fact
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Woohoo!
A nice explicit clarification that cut springs are MOT acceptable.
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Well I've got an awkward situation with my car.... It's a derv, and came with a cat. They don't need one to pass the emissions (only smoke is measured), and it even says this on the new test: which mine doesn't, so by this, it's not needed... which is handy, as I weighed it in, and got a pretty penny for it ;D but in the reason for rejection column, it also says this: soooo... would it pass, or fail? It kinda says both to me
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Well I read that as a fail on both accounts? It qualifies for a cat test, but no cat is fitted, is that a fail by default?
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Ah, so cut coils are fine in the eyes of the law then! I should read thing more carefully...
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No, because it is a diesel, and that section is headed "spark engined emission testing", none of it applies. There was supposed to be an addition to the diesel testing about removing pollution control measures but it doesn't seem to have happened (yet)
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Well I read that as a fail on both accounts? It qualifies for a cat test, but no cat is fitted, is that a fail by default? Yep, if it should have a cat, it should have a cat. But that doesn't necessarily mean there is anything IN the cat...... Trick from the MG Zed boys - remove cat - smash the guts out - put cat back in. Cat still fitted.....
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Mine should have one but its an import and 1989 model so no emissions are for it.
Sure they do all this just to confuse people more
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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Nope, it says it only needs a cat "On vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions", which it doesn't, because the cat doesn't affect the measured smoke - that's not a CO test (which would be a test of the cat) And unfortunatly, it's in section 7.1 (general exhaust condition) 7.2 is for petrol, 7.3 is derv, the latter two dealing with permissible emission limits, of each type so on one hand, it says it's not tested, so doesn't matter - but then it also says if it had one, it needs one? Marinianut, I got £75 for weighing in the centre section of the cat - paid quite a few bills with that smashing the centre section out a month or two ago was NOT an option for pennies.... then a couple of days later I heard that they were considering making it part of the test, as SOC said just my luck eh?
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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had a quick look - you mean section 7.1? I think you are just misreading it. You read across the columns, so 7.1.3 has an inspection method of "On vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions test, check the presence of the catalytic converter." and a failure of "A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard"
The fail for no cat doesn't apply to anything derv powered, or registered prior to 1/8/92 because they don't qualify for a full cat test.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Have had a quick read of the new test and just checking how or if this applies to shaved door handles. Am I right in thinking the "Information" says they are not needed so I can ignore the other tests ? From section 6.2 (seats & doors) - I have underlined the bit I think excludes modified retros .
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crazymonkey
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ummm....what was I doing again???
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Have had a quick read of the new test and just checking how or if this applies to shaved door handles. Am I right in thinking the "Information" says they are not needed so I can ignore the other tests ? From section 6.2 (seats & doors) - I have underlined the bit I think excludes modified retros . now see does that mean that the door has to be able to be opened from outside (aka door handle) or does it mean that if there is a door handle fitted, it has to work??? . I think the latter.
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whoever said dogs were man's best friend....obviously never heard of cable ties
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OK. (here we go again....) The advice in the "information" section does not exempt anything from the door opening test. It just brings the tester's attention to the fact that not having a handle isn't a fault in itself.
A lack of door handles is NOT a reason for rejection BUT the door must open from the outside by using the relevant control. This could be a push button, remote control or anything else that takes your fancy but it must be possible to open the door from the outside.
The only way you can escape this is to fill the door apeture completely so there is no shut line and then it isn't a door anymore.
Edit to add, just before anyone asks, yes the "test as presented" loophole works ao if the windows are down and you can reach the inside handle it's a technical pass. Just don't blame me when VOSA stop you on a rainy day and disagree.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Kudos for posting this, dude - nice one!
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