bryn
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Aug 17, 2006 21:43:17 GMT
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Can anybody point me in the direction of a definitive list of British land speed records? I know there are many different classes and records, I just can't find a list anywhere. I think they are officiated by the RAC/MSA... Anyone? Cheeears ;D Oh, here's a pic of the Class H holder in some of the records. (under 750cc)
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Aug 17, 2006 21:45:33 GMT
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I'm getting super tempted by the LSR thing, there was a thread a while ago about the under 1L class at bonneville i think? any ideas?
J
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bryn
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Aug 17, 2006 22:00:41 GMT
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You can see where I'm going with this eh? I'm not tempted by Bonneville for reasons of cost and logistics, I'm thinking British Land Speed records, Barry the owner of the MG holds/held flying mile, highest average speed over a period of time etc. That's what I'm thinking... Small Japanese, blown car. This guy short stroked an MR2, fascinating stuff if you haven't seen it. www.bobnorwood.com/The%20Fastest%20Little%20Sports%20Car%20in%20Utah.htm
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Aug 17, 2006 22:15:31 GMT
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Ive wanted to work for norwood for many years, flat twelve train supercharged and charge cooled ferrari is mental.
He had terrible trouble with boosting the MR2 enough in under 1L guise though, surbe from the low flow high boost situation. The good thing about top speed is that weight makes zero difference, infact the heavier the more stable.
Would be jolly easy to break a recond set by a 1930's 750cc MG!
J
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Aug 17, 2006 22:16:36 GMT
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LSR cars give me the horn.
Not the ultimate-record cars...The aero-tastic category racers.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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bryn
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Aug 17, 2006 22:18:55 GMT
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Ive wanted to work for norwood for many years, flat twelve train supercharged and charge cooled ferrari is mental. He had terrible trouble with boosting the MR2 enough in under 1L guise though, surbe from the low flow high boost situation. The good thing about top speed is that weight makes zero difference, infact the heavier the more stable. Would be jolly easy to break a recond set by a 1930's 750cc MG! J Figured you may have heard of him As for the MG records, I know these were set a while ago, but I still think it could be done. Break some british ones then get some funding to take it abroad...
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Aug 17, 2006 22:19:46 GMT
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Would be jolly easy to break a recond set by a 1930's 750cc MG! Retro-Driver project car? Chopped, channeled and sectioned imp/chamois rocking a blown 750cc bike mowtah! *n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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bryn
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Aug 17, 2006 22:22:47 GMT
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Would be jolly easy to break a recond set by a 1930's 750cc MG! Retro-Driver project car? Chopped, channeled and sectioned imp/chamois rocking a blown 750cc bike mowtah! *n Now you're talking... I was thinking the same treatment on a Charade or Honda N800 or something equally deviant.
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Aug 17, 2006 22:58:33 GMT
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I think you have to keep the original engine for this category, so the imp of charade would be my choices, purely though personal experience! I'm thinking de stroked imp engine with 1040 bore, all the S4 imp bits bolted to it, and some serious body mods. As you say chopped channeled and sectioned imp, woud be mentalist! Ive been hankering after a competition engine for a while, would be a good excuse for the berillium pistons, H beam rods, and forged crank J
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Aug 17, 2006 23:03:05 GMT
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The thing with LSR attempts is that they do catch the public eye. Very good for raising awareness. Short-stroke Charade GTTi rollin' on discs, 749cc, T4 ( ), inch-thick bolts and the mother of all air-to-air intercoolers. I'd lean the block rearwards (Supertourer-stylee) and leave the whole of the front end as a massive intercooler box... *n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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one day i WILL get to Bonneville. interesting, tash and i are off to coniston this weekend. i should be collecting a picture of bluebird from Paul Allonby who was one of the photographers/reporters when Donald Campbell made his attempts. have a look here Bryn www.primetimelandspeed.co.uk/
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Theres a hillclimb record set by a 1923 or something Morris Oxford which has never been beaten talking of old records...
I was interested in a British LSR car for the two reasons that 1. you don't have to ship it out to the USA and 2. the British records are much lower numbers than the US done world records. Its therefore more plausible to be able to set a new one.
The idea stagnated due to lack of information readily available to me.
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Last Edit: Aug 18, 2006 8:53:28 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Aug 18, 2006 10:02:00 GMT
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I'm guessing it has to be a brittish car to be a brittish land speed record, what about all these bike engined mini's or does that not count ?
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once again rocking with 1117cc and 4 gears!
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Aug 18, 2006 10:40:42 GMT
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Nope, British land speed record just means its done on British soil. A lot of the early LSR cars used yank or even French engines. I seem to remember some Peugeot engined monstrosity was the first LSR car to beat 100 MPH? And I mean Monstrosity in the best sense of the word.
Oh, I need to find a book on this 'cos there was some great characters and real home brew engineering back then. One of them was a bus chassis with an aeroplane engine. Another I recall was something like an ex Alfa Grand Prix car with a Cadillac V16.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Aug 18, 2006 10:51:51 GMT
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I have a great book called "The Fastest Men on Earth" by Peter J R Holthusen Its all about the world speed record not just the UK but British cars and drivers dominated it from the beginning of the 20's through to the 60's. The last time it was broken on british soil was when Malcolm Campbell did 174mph at Pendine in 1927. I don't know if there's a book on UK records? There certainly should be!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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bryn
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Aug 18, 2006 10:52:40 GMT
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Oh, I need to find a book on this 'cos there was some great characters and real home brew engineering back then. One of them was a bus chassis with an aeroplane engine. Another I recall was something like an ex Alfa Grand Prix car with a Cadillac V16. Yes. Yes and yes... Charade is getting my vote due to tuneability and cost. Too many times an idea falls flat due to funding or aiming too high, this is realistic. Thanks for the link Keefy, I'm off for a ponder.
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Aug 18, 2006 10:53:29 GMT
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This is really interesting. I think the UK record "scene" (dirty word) could be a really good one
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bryn
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Aug 18, 2006 11:01:28 GMT
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It's all about getting back to the pioneering spirit that people had a hundred years ago, they did it because they could. There's little or no praise or reward with this sort of thing, but to hold an LSR would be sooo cool. A few years ago one of the magazines I work for decided they wanted to break the caravan world towing-speed-land-record type affair, so we did. Anything is possible.
Still looking for that list though people, it's all the sub classes and bracket records I'm interested in.
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Last Edit: Aug 18, 2006 11:02:09 GMT by bryn
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Aug 18, 2006 11:22:35 GMT
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I'm guessing its FIA sanctioned? So would they have the details?
J
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Aug 18, 2006 11:26:48 GMT
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hmm..i've tried the google apparoach and haven't found anything bryn, trying to find bike classes. I can find top speed records etc,but no classes
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