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Hi,
I'm in need of some new number plates as mine are starting to de-laminate
so i thought id like some pressed metal ones with the euro bit on but it seems dubmeister now meed my docs, which isnt gonna happen.
where can i buy pressed plates with the correct uk font and euro band without letting go of any docs?
Dan
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mr
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got my pressed alloy ones with a french but uk legal style font off ebay. bout £23 quid i believe. apparently the anpr cameras cant read them though and it really annoys the police. that said, the mot inpspector who tested my car showed me the leagal gumph on the computer and mine are fine. 2 mots so far. that said,my car was originally fitted with metal plates from new.....not sure if thats anything important though  |
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^^^^ Thats not the legal uk font, looks like the french font to me  |
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VIP
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got my pressed alloy ones with a french but uk legal style font off ebay. bout £23 quid I believe. apparently the anpr cameras cant read them though and it really annoys the police. that said, the mot inpspector who tested my car showed me the leagal gumph on the computer and mine are fine. 2 mots so far. that said,my car was originally fitted with metal plates from new.....not sure if thats anything important though Your number plates are not 'strictly' legal, as they are 'new plates fixed to a vehicle on or after 1st September 2001 to replace a plate previously fixed thereto', therefore they must use the prescribed font, which is Charles Wright, to the correct dimensions.  It would appear that your MOT tester is testing the plate as the orginal one that came on the car, or at lease a replacement one that was put on the car before 1st September 2001. If he knows the plate is newer than that, he's being a bit naughty. If you were ever pulled by the Police, I would imagine it would be quite hard for them to prove how old the plate was though, as long as you 'believed' it had been fitted to the car before 1st Sept 2001. |
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apparently the anpr cameras cant read them though and it really annoys the police. Is that right? I have weeny motorbike ones on my daily (J import) and got done by a speedy cam recently - automated letter through the post style. Could have been a copper manually looking at the image I guess? |
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VIP
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apparently the anpr cameras cant read them though and it really annoys the police. Is that right? I have weeny motorbike ones on my daily (J import) and got done by a speedy cam recently - automated letter through the post style. Could have been a copper manually looking at the image I guess? It isn't correct. As long as they are legible, and not some fancy script, ANPR cameras will be able to recognise the individual digits. It is a popular defence used by Officers of the Law to justify the reasoning behind having the correct numberplates, because most people don't understand the phrase "because its Law and they have to be that size/shape/colour" |
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If the speed camera cannot automatically read the plate then its flagged to an operator to manually read.
Same as cheques. There used to be a ruse that if you put pin pricks through the account number on you cheques it would take a couple extra days to clear them because the machine couldn't read them so they got into a reject hopper which was manually processed.
Same sort of thing.
One (inconclusive) way to see if your plates are machine readable is to see how long it takes between you squeezing the trigger and fuel being dispensed at the pumps. "Most" petrol stations now use ANPR to log your number plate before releasing the pump. Its to help reduce cost of drive-aways without paying. If the plate doesn't read a cashier has to manually over ride it once they've written down your registration number in the book.
Last time I filled up the GTA it was a good 2 minutes between me starting to try pumping fuel and the fuel being dispensed. I take it these are not machine readable plates.
But there could be a bunch of other reasons.
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Last Edit: Aug 1, 2011 11:43:17 GMT by akku
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Is that right? I have weeny motorbike ones on my daily (J import) and got done by a speedy cam recently - automated letter through the post style. Could have been a copper manually looking at the image I guess? It isn't correct. As long as they are legible, and not some fancy script, ANPR cameras will be able to recognise the individual digits. It is a popular defence used by Officers of the Law to justify the reasoning behind having the correct numberplates, because most people don't understand the phrase "because its Law and they have to be that size/shape/colour" not strictly true, i used to have legible plates with a german font they used to be quite different on the anpr display screen at the local morrisons fuel station. 1 tug from the traffic lot and i removed them though (took them 3 years though!) |
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MrSpeedy
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Got my German ones from 'the plate man' off of the interweb. I'm sure he does 'normal' pressed plates tho  Supplied as 'show plates' so no paperwork required |
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mr
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yeah yeah,mine are really clean original ones.........:-)
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Got the car from 105 bhp at the crank to 152 at the wheels.nitrous going on next.....if it ain't broke,keep bolting on go faster parts until it is........ www.fordgranadaclubuk.freefo.de |
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Got my German ones from 'the plate man' off of the interweb. I'm sure he does 'normal' pressed plates tho Supplied as 'show plates' so no paperwork required thanks for that, didnt come up in my google search for some reason |
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tomti
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I get my legal pressed plates off ebay. Still reflective and has the ISO number in the bottom corner.
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Copey
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It isn't correct. As long as they are legible, and not some fancy script, ANPR cameras will be able to recognise the individual digits. It is a popular defence used by Officers of the Law to justify the reasoning behind having the correct numberplates, because most people don't understand the phrase "because its Law and they have to be that size/shape/colour" not strictly true, I used to have legible plates with a german font they used to be quite different on the anpr display screen at the local morrisons fuel station. 1 tug from the traffic lot and I removed them though (took them 3 years though!) here is the fact OLD APNR cams had problems with anything other than the standard plates but the new APNR cams that the police use CAN read any plate APNR cams in supermarket car parks are still the old style ones as its not a big deal if they cannot read every plate this has been confirmed by friends who are police officers and the fact that my work has installed APNR cams in work and they don't pick up my plates, when i asked why they explained that they had the older technology because it was a damn sight cheaper, i have also been pulled for illegal plates and i asked the copper if he had to enter the details in or weather it was picked up, he said it was picked up by the cams |
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Copey
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oh and another vote for ebay, i got my black n silver ones off their, good quality
and as tomti has said, you can get fully legal, reflective ones with the proper code on too
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VIP
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not strictly true, I used to have legible plates with a german font they used to be quite different on the anpr display screen at the local morrisons fuel station. 1 tug from the traffic lot and I removed them though (took them 3 years though!) here is the fact OLD APNR cams had problems with anything other than the standard plates but the new APNR cams that the police use CAN read any plate APNR cams in supermarket car parks are still the old style ones as its not a big deal if they cannot read every plate. Exactly... |
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VIP
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Oh, and for those of you with pre-Sept 2001 vehicles - and therefore pre-Sept 2001 number plates - the law for font style is as follows; Style of characters
15.—(1) In the case of a registration mark displayed—
(a) on a registration plate fixed to a vehicle first registered on or after 1st September 2001, or
(b) on a new registration plate fixed to a vehicle on or after 1st September 2001 to replace a plate previously fixed thereto (except where the vehicle was first registered before 1st January 1973), each of the characters of the mark must be in the prescribed font.
(2) Except in a case to which paragraph (1) applies, each of the characters of the registration mark must either be in the prescribed font or in a style which is substantially similar to the prescribed font so that the character is easily distinguishable and in particular, but without prejudice to the generality of those requirements, characters must not be formed in any way described in paragraph (4) or in a manner which is similar to any of those ways.
(3) For the purposes of paragraph (2), a character shall not be treated as being in a style which is not substantially similar to the prescribed font merely by virtue of the fact that it has, or does not have, serifs.
(4) The ways of forming characters referred to in paragraph (2) are their formation—
(a) in italic script,
(b) using a font, other than italic script, in which the characters are not vertical,
(c) using a font in which the curvature or alignment of the lines of the stroke is substantially different from the prescribed font,
(d) using multiple strokes,
(e) using a broken stroke,
(f) in such a way as to make a character or more than one character appear like a different character or characters. |
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V-Force
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Got mine from EuroPL8 at Ultimate Dubs, nice font and layout |
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