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Jul 20, 2006 15:17:31 GMT
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Cheap spark-right alarm from halfrauds, bout 35 quid or something? On maximum sensitivity they howl quite nicely at the merest brush of a wing mirror.....could be bloody irritating but worth a consideration. Ajustable though, so you could have it only go off on a bump About 3-4 wires to get it in!
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Bioshock
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Jul 20, 2006 15:27:15 GMT
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Got a Toad Alarm and Immoboliser in mine-Good stuff. Cant see anyone nicking mine to banger don't think it would last two minutes considering where the engine is ;D Unless i'm mistaken (Do rear engine dubs get bangered? )
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Almera GTI = ugly bird who turns out to be great in the sack = Win
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Jul 20, 2006 15:40:21 GMT
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I've seen pictures of a Beetle-only banger meet. Not sure if that was in the UK or not.
Cheap alarms are easily bypassed. Get a Toad, Clifford or Meta or similar if you're serious. for a few quid extra its proper security.
Removing bits of the engine/ignition is fine if you are leaving it for a fortnight in a Gatwick carpark while you're on holiday but overnight? Nah.
I had a simple switch which cut the power on my Mk3. totally effective and dead easy to use. A switch in the coil line (LT) is also a good one. easy to wire past though if they kow what you've done, unless you relocate the coil and its wiruing up under the dash somewhere. Seen that done, looks neater in the bay too!
Fuel cut off valve
inline switch to the electric fuel pump
deadlocks (look a bit minging, but OK for a daily driver really, saved my Mk3 2 door from getting lifted about 3 or 4 times)
Hykey make a security lock set which replaces the stock barrels. Means your car can't be opened with a locker key or a screwdriver, but does mean that if they want to punch though the door panel and spring the locks they still can.
however - if you disconnect & remove the lock pin mechanism they can't. Means you can't lock the car from the inside (has to be locked on the key only or on the central locking if fitted) so maybe only good for 2 door cars. This trick is usually good to stop them "fishing" the lock open with a hook bar or even a coat hanger.
Security film stops them smashing the windows.
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Jul 20, 2006 16:02:21 GMT
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has anyone looked at that link i put up? it removes the need for a swithc that can be seen. And makes it much less obvious how to start the car. It will also only start if they have a magnet, how many people do you know that carry a magnet?
J
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Jul 20, 2006 16:08:47 GMT
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its practically imposible for them to steal the car off the drive, unless thy fancy breaking into the house, moving the mondeo out the way and taking my car off the gravel drive without the dogs or me hearing Wait for a windy night, come round about 3am, cut the handbrake cable on the mondeo and carefully roll it out the way. Jig the lock on the Scort,roll it down the road and jumpstart it out of earshot.
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Jul 20, 2006 16:16:39 GMT
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has anyone looked at that link i put up? it removes the need for a swithc that can be seen. And makes it much less obvious how to start the car. It will also only start if they have a magnet, how many people do you know that carry a magnet? J I had a look, appears to be pretty cool. I may well have a go at boshing one of those together for the Fiesta!
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Jul 20, 2006 19:08:44 GMT
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pop browns used to do a budget immobiliser like the one blownimp posted. you had to short it out with a coin or such like to trip the the relay. hide it in an ash tray, and away you go, or not as the case may be but remember; if someone wants your car, they'll stop at nothing. some amatuer has put chisel marks on the my moggy quarter light and someone bust the door handle to try and get in it only takes a screw driver to get into a well worn moggy door lock thankfully they were not pro's JS; could you put solex locks on the escy?
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Jul 20, 2006 20:13:28 GMT
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take the dizzy cap off old skool style! Or put a swich on like i have which cuts power to the coil. so robber jumps in, hot wire it and hey presto it turns over but won't start, and 9 times out of 10 the put it down to crappy old fords!!! you get a buggered ignition but you still have the car around it
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Assumption is the mother of all f**k ups
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Jul 20, 2006 20:18:44 GMT
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best security device, leave a large angry dog in the car. whats anne widicombe doing for a crust these days ;D
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Jul 20, 2006 21:00:19 GMT
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Some good advice here, cheers guys. ;D Nice to see ya, OldSkool!
Solex door locks - I'd forgotten about those! I'll have to have a look, see if I can get some. I've got so used to the ol' "blip-blip" keyless set up and touchkey on the Sapphire...
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Jul 20, 2006 21:15:37 GMT
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Snoozin
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Jul 20, 2006 21:28:58 GMT
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The Alfa has a 5-star Uniden alarm, with a battery backup siren, motion sensor, and dual circuit immobilisers. The boot is unable to be opened unless you get into the car, plus from time to time a steering wheels lock is thrown on there to deter the joyrider types. When it's at certain places, I usually remove the dizzy cap just as a precaution. At night it sits in a locked garage, soon to be alarmed also.
The KP is having a 5 star alarm installed also, and I'm going to go to the extent of shaving the door locks so no filthy pricks can mess with em.
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Jul 20, 2006 23:25:30 GMT
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On some cars you can drill a small hole through the handbrake quadrant so that when you pull the lever up you can install a padlock to stop it being released. A quick release steering wheel is effective but it means having to carry the wheel around with you.
A linelock with a hidden switch would work too and I'd wager not many crooks would think to look for one or even know what it looked like. If you have a hydraulic clutch you could possibly fit one in the clutch line so there's no drive until it's released. That'd be better possibly than doing the brakes. It'd certainly stop it being driven away.
Back when I lived in Bournemouth and old Datsuns were getting theived for export all over, I used to use chains and padlocks to either chain my cars together in pairs or to lamp posts to stop them getting hiabed. Pretty effective but a pain in the backside at times. Even now i live out in the countryside, I still fit stop ocks to my cars in my yard and the gates are chained and padlocked overnight or if I go out. I make sure that no cars are within hiab reach from the road too. Soon as I have some spare cash, I'm going to install a couple of CCTV cameras out side my house too for extra piece of mind to guard agains thieving scrotes. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
When my 510 goes back on the road, it'd going to get a tracker fitted I think. I'd like one for my Sunny truck too. Wish I had the wedge to do it to all my cars. I think I may return to the heavy chain and big assed padlock for when I have to park the cars away from home!
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Bioshock
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I can't believe they banger beetlesWTF!,as i've said I used to be involved in the scene in the eighties.Back then a rear engined car would have lasted two minutes.Still I s'pose people will race anything as long as it's got four wheels,sometimes three ,a lot of the time two! 'though I'm the same as a few others,the wifes car is parked a few inches off my bumper,Clifford cat A FTW ;D (Hers)
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Almera GTI = ugly bird who turns out to be great in the sack = Win
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Will have to look into that solex kit to replace crumby Mk1 fiesta locks on my sierra, they shouldn't be allowed to be called locks!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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My Transit Mk2 is parked in a layby on a main road tonight, and there's an E28 on the trailer behind it. The van has sun shades on all the front windows and the rear ones are blacked out, with a disclok on the steering wheel. The trailer has a hitchlock and wheel clamp on it...
You can only do so much. I am getting to the point where I can't be bothered anymore, and I live in a reasonable area. I've got red flashing lights and all that on a few of the motors, but nobody I know would pay attention if an alarm went off.
Visual deterents are where it's at for me, wibblepoo looking car and lots of big wheel locks. The casual thief will be put off and the serious one's will have it anyway, so what the hell?
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Bioshock
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I'm pretty sure your right bryn.The visual detterent will keep away some tosser that just wants to use your car when he's curse word up as a free taxi.As for the proffesional car thief,well,every day Astons,Ferraris etc are stolen to order.Complete with state of the art immobilisers, trackers whatever. I mean they can still pinch Millions from "secure" safety depositories.I guess its just about keeping your average f*ckwit away from your pride and joy
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Almera GTI = ugly bird who turns out to be great in the sack = Win
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Jul 21, 2006 10:08:50 GMT
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I always think a removable steering wheel is the best deterrent. Obviously a thief can't drive it but also he wouldn't break in first, then discover he can't drive it. A missing rotor arm or HT lead isn't a deterrent becasue a thief wouldn't know about them til he's broken your locks and smashed your ignition barrell off with a scaffolding pole. The best deterrents are so obvious that they give a message to the potential thief that they won't be able to nick it. A wheel clamp is another good one. My father had a series of cars in the 60s where he removed the ignition and put a hidden switch in somewhere.
Charlie
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Jul 21, 2006 11:05:16 GMT
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I always think a removable steering wheel is the best deterrent. Thats pretty much my thinking. - I would fit snap off kits.
- Make sure the car is not seen from the main road (particularly if you live near a busy road)
- Stay friendly with the neighbours - they will always notice dodgy going ons.
- Make sure the security on the car is highly visable - and usually make sure there's at least 2.
Regretably, asides from Simons & Eddies idea of padlocking the car to the drive, almost nothing will stop hiabs - especially when the car is parked away from home. I've had a Datsun stolen a few years back, and chances are if I wasn't so bliase about the car it wouldn't have ended up exported.
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Jul 21, 2006 12:44:26 GMT
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A mate of mine had someone try and nick his Morris Marina from outside his house, all they succeeded in doing was f'ng up the door locks and hotwiring the windscreen wipers..mind you, it would have been interesting to see how far they would have got as the drivers seat was on his kitchen table at the time........ Just a thought - if you car has an auto option, look in the Haynes manual for the connection to the selector quadrant; on my car it cuts the starter motor and ignition circuits, is easy to reach and the plug fits in your pocket and unless you have a plug to fit it, the car is electrically nerfed. See if you can find anything on yours.....
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