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So then.... Perodua Nippa'sqwerty
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Jul 14, 2006 14:52:14 GMT
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Well yesterday night I was idley contimplating the universe and everything when for a random and bizzare reason I started thinking about how cool a slammed Perodua Nippa on wide Black steels would be! From that train of thought came the fact they're basically daihatsu which led me to think.......Daihatsu Charade GTti engine!! Now what I want to know before I rush out and buy one is, is it possible? Will it work? and, Who else thinks its a brilliant idea? Here's a pic of What one is if nobody Know's
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Jul 14, 2006 15:00:16 GMT
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Actually me and a mate at work came up with some serous plans for getting a Kia Shame each and seeing who could make the fastest one. For the class of car they ain't that bad, the 1.3i does 0-60 in 9.something which compared to the Corsas and the like which are usually like 12 sec and those Peruduas and some of the other weird far eastern stuff is in calendar terretory.
The local auction was running them through at about £20 a pop (plus buyer premium) at the time.
I didn't have space for another car at the time, it would have been a laugh.
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tigran
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So then.... Perodua Nippa'stigran
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Jul 14, 2006 15:04:44 GMT
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That absolutely rool. Everyone loves sleepers here - and what better sleeper than the cheapest, shittiest, grottiest car (still available for purchase) known to man?
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Jul 14, 2006 15:30:38 GMT
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Look, I very much get the idea of making a curse word car fast! if I had alot of time and money on my side i would say all go, but as a propper retro ride lover me thumbs are well and truely down on this one ;D
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Jul 14, 2006 18:04:01 GMT
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That not a retro car, it's a modern car/steaming pile of dog curse word and will not ever be cool.
This thread is not about retro cars and is OFF TOPIC.
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Jul 14, 2006 18:26:35 GMT
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It hasn't got a V8 in it and it isn't american. Thus I shall pour scorn all over it Yes, I am getting quite boring with constantly putting down other people's ideas because they don't conform to my own narrow-minded ideology of what is and isn't 'retro'.... I agree that a Perodua Nippa 'off the peg' must be as pleasant to drive and 'cool' to own as pouring hot chip fat over your own testes. However, I like the concept the lad has. Daft as it may be, it might just work, esp. as the design of these things is from the early 80's at least.
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Last Edit: Jul 14, 2006 18:30:53 GMT by arthurbrown
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Jul 14, 2006 18:29:21 GMT
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The Kancil as they call them in Malaysia is basically an L200 series 5 door Daihatsu Mira super dull version with even cheaper trim. The L200 Mira came out in 1990! Retro enough? There's an enormous scene in Malaysia for modding them up! They put TR-XX turbo engines in them! I get Emails from Malaysian owners all the time. One guy Emailed me, he managed to get hold of the rare Classic bumper/headlights and make them fit his car. Not really to my taste but it's got the top JB-JL 4 cyl turbo engine fitted (top of range engine of next generation up). Just gives you an idea of how much they're into it! Much more common is to make a 5 door version of the L200 TR-XX though: The L200 TR-XX engine just drops straight in! 0-60 in a bit under 9 secs, instant sleeper! If you really want to go all the way you want to drop one of these in..... Storia X4 engine! Special tuned up Avanzato engine for racing, increased from 659cc to a mighty 713cc. Stock 120hp, Stage 1 165hp, Stage 2 200hp. Stage 2 is 0-60 in 3 secs in a car that weighs a good 100kg more, fit that to a Nippa (if you can find one ever ) and you'd be a real hero (and best buddies with the local tyre place).
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Jul 14, 2006 18:41:53 GMT
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Same ole wibblepoo, different site.................................................... By your reasoning Muppet the Hindustan Ambassador, still in production in India, couldnt be considered Retro even tho it still is no more than a slightly modernised 50s Morris. The MK1 Golf is still made in S.Africa, would one of those not be Retro? How can the Perodua be considered remotely "modern" when its no more than a rehash of a car conceived back in the early 80s? If, like me you are a child of the 60s you would consider anything made post 1980 to be non Retro, yet, as i have seen over and over Retro isnt just about the car, its a style, a mindset and a way of thinking that takes car modifying out of the standard bolt on kits on characterless wibblepoo mobiles. If an old git like me can see the "retro" appeal in a car like that, anybody can!!!!
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If Typhoo put the Tea in Britain who put the c**t in Scunthorpe?
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Hirst
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Jul 14, 2006 18:47:40 GMT
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Actually might as well mention this, the 1990 L200 series is only slight update to the 1986 L70 series to counter for the new Japanese size regulations..... 1986 L70 Mira TR-XX
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Jul 14, 2006 18:49:10 GMT
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That not a retro car, it's a modern car/steaming pile of dog curse word and will not ever be cool. This thread is not about retro cars and is OFF TOPIC. Actually, it's based on (more truthfully, it's pretty much a rebadged version of) the late 80s/early 90s Daihatsu Cuore, which itself is based on an even older platform. So the technology's ancient, only thing not "retro" about it is the numberplate. I give your post a 2.5/10. The 2 being for effort.
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Jul 14, 2006 18:51:57 GMT
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It hasn't got a V8 in it and it isn't american. Thus I shall pour scorn all over it Yes, I am getting quite boring with constantly putting down other people's ideas because they don't conform to my own narrow-minded ideology of what is and isn't 'retro'.... I agree that a Perodua Nippa 'off the peg' must be as pleasant to drive and 'cool' to own as pouring hot chip fat over your own testes. However, I like the concept the lad has. Daft as it may be, it might just work, esp. as the design of these things is from the early 80's at least. It's not that i'm anti everything not american as you say, Something you've picked up from my replies to Cherryblacks posts i'd guess ( He's my older brother and spends alot of time obsessing about old Mopars then making excuses ). I just don't see the appeal of buying the worst excuse for a car possible and trying to make it cool, and lowering a perodua over fat steels will still leave you with a curse word car that is lowered over fat steels. It may have been designed in the early 80's but that doesn't make it great. Why waste your time, surley a harvest gold wedge princess with a Vtec would be better? Or an FSO Polenez lowered over fat steels?
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Jul 14, 2006 18:56:58 GMT
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nippas rock, bobbins to muppet muppet!
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Hirst
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Jul 14, 2006 19:03:00 GMT
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It may have been designed in the early 80's but that doesn't make it great. Why waste your time, surley a harvest gold wedge princess with a Vtec would be better? Or an FSO Polenez lowered over fat steels? Because it's a very cheap car with a strong but lightweight chassis, 4WD gearboxes available and turbo engines you can simply drop straight in? Plus a huge range of Japanese tuning parts available, full race suspension kits, 150hp turbo kits, Daihatsu Racing Service engine parts, etc etc. It'd be extremely easy to transplant parts from any of the Mira Turbos in because for all purposes it really is just a 5 door Mira. The chassis is exactly the same, it just has different bumpers and trim. The L200 Mira was hugely popular in Japan so you'll never worry for parts either, tuning or otherwise. Oh yeah to Qwerty! I missed the bit about the GTti engine, you can indeed put the GTti engine in an L200 chassis, you've just got to seamweld the front, people have done it before. I think it goes on the standard Mira Turbo 'box too. ;D
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Jul 14, 2006 19:08:34 GMT
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It may have been designed in the early 80's but that doesn't make it great. Why waste your time, surley a harvest gold wedge princess with a Vtec would be better? Or an FSO Polenez lowered over fat steels? Because it's a very cheap car with a strong but lightweight chassis, 4WD gearboxes available and turbo engines you can simply drop straight in? Plus a huge range of Japanese tuning parts available, full race suspension kits, 150hp turbo kits, Daihatsu Racing Service engine parts, etc etc. It'd be extremely easy to transplant parts from any of the Mira Turbos in because for all purposes it really is just a 5 door Mira. The chassis is exactly the same, it just has different bumpers and trim. The L200 Mira was hugely popular in Japan so you'll never worry for parts either, tuning or otherwise. Oh yeah to Qwerty! I missed the bit about the GTti engine, you can indeed put the GTti engine in an L200 chassis, you've just got to seamweld the front, people have done it before. I think it goes on the standard Mira Turbo 'box too. ;D Would it not be easier to put nippa badges on a mira, rather than everything from a mira on to a nippa?
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Jul 14, 2006 19:13:57 GMT
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The only L200 Miras in UK are the same spec as a Nippa anyway, Nippa is just same thing as a UK Mira, we didn't get the turbo ones or anything with an exciting spec. The Mira is harder to get hold of than the Nippa too for not really much gain other than it'll be a bit cheaper.
You could import a stock L200 TR-XX from Japan, but in the same way, we could just all buy new VW Golfs etc.
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Jul 14, 2006 19:16:01 GMT
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Finding a really clean, straight, low-mileage '80s Mira is suprisingly difficult these days. Most have been bumped in supermarket carparks, or thrashed to within an inch of their lives. Nippas are relatively young, so there's more of them available in decent condition.
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tigran
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So then.... Perodua Nippa'stigran
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Jul 14, 2006 19:35:50 GMT
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Because it's a very cheap car with a strong but lightweight chassis, 4WD gearboxes available and turbo engines you can simply drop straight in? Plus a huge range of Japanese tuning parts available, full race suspension kits, 150hp turbo kits, Daihatsu Racing Service engine parts, etc etc. It'd be extremely easy to transplant parts from any of the Mira Turbos in because for all purposes it really is just a 5 door Mira. The chassis is exactly the same, it just has different bumpers and trim. The L200 Mira was hugely popular in Japan so you'll never worry for parts either, tuning or otherwise. Oh yeah to Qwerty! I missed the bit about the GTti engine, you can indeed put the GTti engine in an L200 chassis, you've just got to seamweld the front, people have done it before. I think it goes on the standard Mira Turbo 'box too. ;D Would it not be easier to put nippa badges on a mira, rather than everything from a mira on to a nippa? The easy way out if for jesses and my sister. Jeez, killjoy.
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Jul 14, 2006 19:47:05 GMT
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I don't get whats supposed to be retro and whats not TBH. Whatever you say it is I guess. What about the Daewoo Espero and Nexia? Mk2 Cav & Astra respectively. Dunno if I should admit this but I always kinda like the Esperro. Kinda mad looking thing. And where have all of them gone already?
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I don't get whats supposed to be retro and whats not TBH. ? I've dicussed this with a couple of other members on this board. We came to a conclusion, the short answer seems to be 'follow the crowd' unfortunatley. ;D
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That not a retro car, it's a modern car/steaming pile of dog curse word and will not ever be cool. This thread is not about retro cars and is OFF TOPIC. I'm OK with this thread personally, trying to do something different to something overlooked is retro thinking. I've been looking at Kia Prides for a while now! I wouldn't call the Nippa 'modern' either...'not made that long ago' would be a more relevant description. ;D I've dicussed this with a couple of other members on this board. We came to a conclusion, the short answer seems to be 'follow the crowd' unfortunatley. ;D Retro-rides philosiphy should never be 'follow the crowd'! If you don't like Miras, which I fully understand (that's their appeal!), then your best bet is to not comment and let the thread die a natural death! Or go and start a Mopar thread and show us some real cars!;D
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Last Edit: Jul 15, 2006 9:43:49 GMT by rmad
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