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Jun 10, 2011 19:58:52 GMT
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The girl next door forgot to check her oil and let it run dry, so now her little fiesta is tapping like a good'un. She took it down to the local garage and he said she should just drive it till it blows up.... she took "Blows up" literally and now is too scared to get in it, so she's gone and bought herself a pug.
So the car is sitting there, most likly gonna be scrapped but still with 4 months t&t on it, now i need summit for the very occasional local saunter, literally 5 miles to take the dog for a walk type thing. So if i buy it off her for a ton ono i don;t mind that i know it's gonna die at some point......
Now my question, finally, is how long is it likely to keep running, if topped back up with oil, are we talking half a mile so don;t bother, or is there a chance it could keep struggling on for a little while so worth the risk.
I know it's how long is a piece of string type question, but if anyone has had any experience i'd love to hear.
Cheers
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Oil ran dry....BenzBoy
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Jun 10, 2011 20:03:23 GMT
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If it's that cheap and the tapping sounds "top endy" like tappets or something, I'd just bosh some fresh oil in it and razz it round without too much worry.
What engine is in it?
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Jun 10, 2011 20:04:08 GMT
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at that sort of money it must be worth a gamble. If it lasts a few weeks then gets weighed in you'll be quids in. I'd wager it'd carry on as it is sounding awful  |
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Jun 10, 2011 20:05:15 GMT
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petrol, not sure what size, guessing 1.3 or less
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Jun 10, 2011 20:05:51 GMT
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how longs a piece of string could last for thosuands of mile or one mile.. fill it up and drive it... it might supprise you...
i know of a mate who had a mk3 golf diesel and never had oil in it...always bone dry .. the thing is still going strong, even with then new owner..
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Oil ran dry....automatic
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Jun 10, 2011 20:50:12 GMT
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I would think it would soldier on for a fair bit of time if its a top end rattle.
Really the main question is how long did it run without oil? A few minutes is not going to be the end of the world but days will have done serious damage.
If its a pushrod lump which it will be if its 8v then they are rattly at the best of times. Stick some good quality oil in it and see how it goes.
The 1.25 zetec se is a likely to have faired worse as they are fairly fragile but is still likely to go on for a fair while.
Any chance of you posting a video of what it sounds like?
Paul
p.s. It is unlikely to literally blow up and if it does its not going to be a massive fireball more like a loud bang and no more engine. Most likely it will make a nasty grinding noise and just stop. Or just refuse to start one morning. However if the engine where to seize with the car travelling at speed it could cause you to lose control!
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Jun 10, 2011 20:58:12 GMT
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A mates son-in-law never topped up the oil in their Fiesta V reg and when mate checked there was virtually nothing in. Turns out oil light had been flashing on for ages ! All that has been done in maybe the last few years has been oil topped up the once - nothing else in any way shape of form of maintenance or servicing.
Nearly 2 years later it's still running , albeit with very rattlely timing chain and no problem passing MOT !
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Oil ran dry....automatic
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Jun 10, 2011 21:04:25 GMT
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A mates son-in-law never topped up the oil in their Fiesta V reg and when mate checked there was virtually nothing in. Turns out oil light had been flashing on for ages ! All that has been done in maybe the last few years has been oil topped up the once - nothing else in any way shape of form of maintenance or servicing. Nearly 2 years later it's still running , albeit with very rattlely timing chain and no problem passing MOT ! Paul h Sure its not the tappets rattling. They get very tappety if you don't set the rocker clearances regularly. |
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Jun 10, 2011 21:24:07 GMT
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If it's a crossflow the cam flowers are probably wiped out, that will make the tappets rattle up top or mid engine after a low oil run, mains wll be a deep rumble and oil light on when warm, big ends, a higher tone of knock but still at the bottom of the engine.
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Jun 10, 2011 22:56:56 GMT
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If it's a crossflow the cam flowers are probably wiped out, that will make the tappets rattle up top or mid engine after a low oil run, mains wll be a deep rumble and oil light on when warm, big ends, a higher tone of knock but still at the bottom of the engine. This. If it's just top-end rattle it'll probably live for quite a while yet. If it has BE or main noise how long you get depends on how you drive it - thrashing it at 80mph stone cold and it might last 5 minutes, while gentle driving might get 500 to several thousand miles. If it got really, really hot then there might be nasties such as excessive bore wear, resulting in much smoke. This happened to my parents' Morris 1100 back in the late 70s (sump plug dropped out on a long run) and it kept running for quite some time, despite the noise and smoke. They did drive it gently to keep it going as long as possible though. OTOH, someone I know managed to kill a crossflow by running it out of oil on the M4 - the oil light didn't work so the first thing he knew about it was the rattle of a big end cap bouncing along the road. As it hasn't died yet I'd give it a go - I'd sort of expect it to have died already if it was going to in the very near future - especially if the rattle is top-end only. |
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Jun 11, 2011 12:08:01 GMT
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Chuck some oil and a bottle of engine restore in it  |
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Jun 11, 2011 12:42:05 GMT
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Ha, thought you were having a giraffe, but Engine Restore is real, and only 25 quid a can... Tune up in a tin!!
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Oil ran dry....automatic
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Jun 11, 2011 12:58:45 GMT
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Snake oil. All thats gonna do is thicken the oil up so you cant here the noise, you could get the same effect by using a thicker oil in the first place, which on a worn engine might be beneficial
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Jun 11, 2011 17:41:15 GMT
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If its the old school endura motor then put some oil in and drive it til you get fed up - as long as the bottom end sounds ok it will be fine - they are damn near indestructible.
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Jun 11, 2011 18:56:01 GMT
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My brother forgot to put oil in is fiesta it an endura engine i put oil in it and the car is still going a year later and just passed a test also sound as sweet as a nut and he drove over 500 miles with no oil
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Jun 11, 2011 19:29:58 GMT
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If its a pushrod lump which it will be if its 8v... Unless it's a CVH. |
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Last Edit: Jun 11, 2011 19:30:21 GMT by Rich606
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Oil ran dry....automatic
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Jun 11, 2011 19:45:54 GMT
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If its a pushrod lump which it will be if its 8v... Unless it's a CVH. Thought they where all endura E pushrods bar the 1.25 zetecSE which is DOHC. Never seen a CVH fiesta but hey you learn something new everyday  |
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Jun 11, 2011 19:56:46 GMT
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Thought they where all endura E pushrods bar the 1.25 zetecSE which is DOHC. Never seen a CVH fiesta but hey you learn something new everyday IIRC, Mk2 XR2s had a 1.6 CVH, but I doubt it's one of those. |
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Oil ran dry....automatic
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Jun 11, 2011 19:57:55 GMT
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Thought they where all endura E pushrods bar the 1.25 zetecSE which is DOHC. Never seen a CVH fiesta but hey you learn something new everyday IIRC, Mk2 XR2s had a 1.6 CVH, but I doubt it's one of those. ahh but the OP stated that it was sub 1.3 |
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Jun 11, 2011 21:00:51 GMT
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IIRC, Mk2 XR2s had a 1.6 CVH, but I doubt it's one of those. ahh but the OP stated that it was sub 1.3 MkII 1.3, 1.4s and 1.6s are CVH powered, as are 1.4 and 1.6 MkIIIs. I'll be honest, I just read "top endy" and thought of CVHs... |
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