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Hi
One of my friends has fitted a coilover conversion kit to his polo, and i found the same thing on rally design and it seems like a cheap way of getting coilovers, but to fit it you have to weld on the strut body and I've had a look around at how you do it and you just take the insert out of the strut body to weld it so the heat doesn't damage anything.
So here's my question how do you take the insert out of the strut body. Ive heard you can get removable insert's and if you don't have that you just take the strut apart and be very careful.
Thanks all help appreciated.
Ben
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just knock the center retaining ring thing round anti clock wise and the shock itself comes out the strut normally dude. weld it on and and carefully hammer and chisel it back on. change the shock while your there to as the old one will probably be dead anyway and defo will be after being slammed a while. you can even buy lower shock replacements for some cars and make ya self some custom legs  |
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Last Edit: Jun 8, 2011 18:13:45 GMT by coop
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just knock the center retaining ring thing round anti clock wise and the shock itself comes out the strut normally dude Ok thanks and this will defiantly work like it don't matter what struts ive got they can com apart with out damaging them. and your the only person on about 3 forums ive asked on that given a straight answer thanks  |
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just check the bore of the threaded tube is obviously going to be big enough to slide over you retainer and still be able to do it up again.
ive known people cut the welds that hold the standard spring cup on a 1303 bug, drop it, then weld it back on with the shock in place but its just being stupid, the shock will be knackered and it could be dangerous if it went off in ya face when boiled up. I'm sure theres plenty people on here that have made what your attempting and kinda remember a thread someone made
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Last Edit: Jun 8, 2011 18:22:34 GMT by coop
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ahh ok thanks ill have a look for that thread.
Thanks
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all depends whether your dampers are inserts or not, many aren't.
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all depends whether your dampers are inserts or not, many aren't. If they don't have insert they can still be taken apart right just not as easy and have to replace the oil. |
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If they're insert type shocks it's easy. If they're sealed oil filled shocks it's also easy, as you can just drill a hole in them and drain the fluid into a measuring cylinder. You then do the welding, then tap the hole out, refill with oil (you can put thicker oil in to stiffen them) then put a bolt in.
If they're sealed gas shocks you're best off not bothering.
Matt
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all depends whether your dampers are inserts or not, many aren't. If they don't have insert they can still be taken apart right just not as easy and have to replace the oil. If they're not insert type they can't be taken apart. |
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My finished conversion is here in my build thread. The earlier construction is a few pages back  Easy to do, and highly recommend getting shorter inserts |
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If they're sealed oil filled shocks it's also easy, as you can just drill a hole in them and drain the fluid into a measuring cylinder. You then do the welding, then tap the hole out, refill with oil (you can put thicker oil in to stiffen them) then put a bolt in. If they're sealed gas shocks you're best off not bothering. Matt Or, after draining it out, cut the top off, and fit a short insert inside the original housing, using the hole at the bottom to put a bolt up into the insert to hold it together. |
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thanks all of you you've made alot of things clear in my head |
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Have a shop around first to see how much car specific coilovers are, by the time you've bought 4 coilover sleeves, 4 new inserts if needed, 4 springs, and knacked around welding them all on, it sometimes isn't worth the bother! |
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Agreed with mike. When I did my Polo ones they simply weren't available, buying from Gaz would have been cheaper when they started doing them.
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My finished conversion is here in my build thread. The earlier construction is a few pages back Easy to do, and highly recommend getting shorter inserts Chris, did you get your bits for this from rally design? If you did is there any chance you could measure the thickness of the spring seat ring sometime? |
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I converted a pair of Cortina struts last week for my Anglia. I unscrewed them,drained the oil,removed all of the insides,gave them a degrease,shortened the bodies,welded on the threaded tubes,remembering to screw on the spring seats first and making sure the top most welds were below the threaded part of the strut body so I didn't knacker the threads,fitted Capri gas Spax inserts and painted them blue. ;D   The new inserts came with new nuts to hold them in the strut body. |
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they turned out really well.
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Forgot about my method. I used a sealed shock, but chopped the top off the casing and welded on the retainer for a mk3 polo insert, then used aftermarket uprated polo inserts. I also dropped the shock body down through the hub mounting as much as physically possible.  That's compared to a stock length shock. Matt |
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Jun 10, 2011 18:02:43 GMT
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This is probably a stupid question but I'll ask it anyways.
I've been told that on my jazz the front struts are oil filled but have a little gas in them to stop the oil from frothing.
Can I drill a hole to drain these and refresh the oil afterwards with out having the gas in them or shall I not bother?
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Jun 11, 2011 11:28:35 GMT
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Are Rally Designs the only people supplying coil over conversion kits in the UK??
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