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Aug 31, 2009 23:16:33 GMT
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Hi all y'all After RRG, combined with a few epic picture posts on here, combined with darkening nights, made me think: I don't have an EPIC car. I'm sitting looking at these pictures and I realise I have soooo much potential in my yard right now, and nothing truly outstanding. So also, because of the shortening nights I'm changing my 4-year-long sleeping patterns so I get up earlier, but have less time in the evening. Considering I spend half my evening on here about 4/5 nights a week, this is a good thing. What with the forum getting very argumentative, I think that has prompted me to go and do something instead. Which has led to tonight. Might not seem like much, but I whittled down a set of brake pads (see other argumentative thread...), fitted another pad into another Estelle so it can come down off its axle stands, tidied up my biggest garage (two singles, two doubles,) and made a lot of space, found some stuff I'd lost, decided to paint my beater BMX, and somewhere in there rediscovered MOJO, and for the first time in weeks... I am satisfied with a good evenings work. For a while now I've not felt I've been actually acheiving anything. Tonight I did. I don't know about you, but see when you've finished reading this, get up off your seat, put on a warm coat (I recommend 3 year old regatta ones you were given in a previous job ) and go make yourself an EPIC car. If you already have one, dammit, go make another.
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Raoul Duke
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A lesson to be learned...Raoul Duke
@raoulduke
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Aug 31, 2009 23:20:54 GMT
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I would head outside RIGHT NOW with a sanding block... but there are no streetlights, plus it's pi55ing down with a vengeance.
However, you have sufficiently motivated me to spend the next dry couple of daylight hours attacking my undercoat in preparation for a truly EPIC paintjob. Or something like...
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...a redder shade of neck on a whiter shade of trash...
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A lesson to be learned...BenzBoy
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Aug 31, 2009 23:31:19 GMT
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Dude, it's 12.30in the am! I have just spend the day with three Retro-Rides friends spannering on an epic car though. And I am in the process of building my own car which I hope will be epic... it has epic amounts of rust anyway... ;D
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Colonelk
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A lesson to be learned...Colonelk
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Aug 31, 2009 23:33:30 GMT
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I shall make an effort to get up tomorrow morning and make the senator better
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Aug 31, 2009 23:42:29 GMT
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Once I find some cash and the rest of my parts get delivered (it's been a year nearly now) then the building up of a most epic mk2 corty estate shall occur. I too have suffered a lack of mojo of late, this thread has helped. So thank you
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i have a few of the bits for an epic car on my driveway but no time or money at the moment ... so i shall have to suffice with making one "tidy" car as a daily with parts from the "spare" and then slowly but surely the spare will end up getting mental ... and possibly turn out epic lets wait and see ... a little spec of whats planned .... e30 tourer lower then your nans tits 17" banded steels satin black or nato green not sure yet yellow lights and indicators and ither a supercharged m42 lump or a cossie engine ... if i go down the cossie route its first incarnation will be with a pinto while i build a cossie engine
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The Doctor
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A lesson to be learned...The Doctor
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yes, thank you sir, i needed an extra push. I've got 1 car waiting for some love, and another one for some paint and then leave, to make room for something more retro
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Mark
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I need a break after the marathon that was the Merc resto. My big problem now is deciding what to do next: - White Merc - rear axle rebuild - Merc S-class - needs electrics, steering & small bit of welding - Mini Clubman - needs everything - Eimears Mini - needs lots of weldy weldy. Need something else for her to drive before this gets done. Logic says to get the W115 roadworthy again, the do the S-class and sell it on
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..and actually building a cool car means that there's more constructive stuff put on the forum about it and everyone's a winner! I'm stealing every moment I can at the moment to fiddle with the Volvo, I want to carry enough momentum to get past the exciting new car phase
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring.
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I'm going to voice this here, and if people don't want to hear it then, so be it. The number of retro rides cars that looked like the could have been going for the scrappage scheme when they rolled into the show made me sad in my heart. Lots of half finished, half started, half bodged cars seemed to be the order of the day. Then the other clubs turned up with some fantastic looking machinery. It is my hope that we just caught people mid way through building their cars and next year will be an explosion of epic. I'm proud of my forum (even when it has rough patches), I want to be proud of all the cars on the forum, not just a handful. So c'mon lets get all these things finished and looking fantastic for next year. I include myself in this as well, my car has rusty door bottoms, slightly broken suspension, no extra power and hasn't been cleaned properly in 3 years. Retro Rides right now : C- , Has ability, must use it. Lets get ourselves up to an A*
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funny, there was a retro-rides cabal who made some similar comments very recently regarding quality/quantity and what constitutes "quality".
I am begining to wonder if I even care about finishing my cars any more. I enjoy the camerarderie (even if I struggle to spell it) which comes with all the tinkering, and I'm seeing it more about the journey than the destination at the moment.
Plus I don't "show" my shitters. I'm strictly park-the-Lexus-out-of-sight man.
On a more serious note my concern, and that of others I know "in the scene" is that "Rat Look" is being used as an excuse or justification for poor workmanship.
I know there are awesome cars out there under construction. Problem is for their owners to find the time, money, resources to finish them. Slow progress when you may have other priorities.
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Last Edit: Sept 1, 2009 7:22:52 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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stealthstylz
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A lesson to be learned...stealthstylz
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Building an epic car with no constraints is easy enough. However trying to build one that looks epic but still comfortable enough for the missus and kid without spending a fortune is difficult. I could have dropped the Carlton months ago by chopping a load out of the springs but the ride would be curse word. Instead i've spent lots of time but not much money trying to work how to get it mega low but still comfortable.
Matt
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DutyFreeSaviour
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I'm stuck on the 'other side' - and the projects I see here, in progress or 'finished' (never are really are they) has me into the garage and changing the Trump over and over...... thus delaying me getting it out there. I've had to stick to 'a plan' and hopefully it'll actually make a show soon. This place has led to the transporter and GT6 racer being born - so thanks guys! The camaraderie really does help and I have to admit that being the main reason I'm still here....... There are a lot of car sites with 'cool' cars - but only one RR group of loonies I for one, not using this as an excuse HW, would trade the epic rides for the good feeling here any time of the day or night - should it ever be lacking. Hope that makes sense. This place is inspiring - it just gives me too many ideas!
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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but it isnt just about shiny really well put together show cars either is it i was a ford guy thru and thru for a while and was and still am active on osf now i turned up to classic ford show in a mk3 capri with a 6 foot long bbq strapped to the roof rack 9tht i nicked off the landy so was fasr too wide) concrete blocks in the back at the stereo system out of my garage ... the car itself was running like a bag of wibblepoo and had rusty rear lower corners the door skin was kinda hanging off and it hasd non matching wheels i didn't have a stand pass either .... loads of ppl helped me try and get it running better they got me on the stand and we all had a good time ... i cant afford at this moment in time to have an epic car i have a "work in progress" that will get there one day hopefully move faster when i get a new job but I'm 20 years old i live at home and will be moving out soon my money needs ot be saved for a house deposit etc and i don't wanna get myself into a debt building a car but ittl get there and untill it does i wanna be able to turn up to shows and it be appreciated for what it is a day to day work in progress thats moving towards something kool ...
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but it isnt just about shiny really well put together show cars either is it No,.. but you can't have a scene made entirely out almost started projects and cars that "have potential" .. some of it must be realised. I think for a lot of people projects fail because their aims out strip their financial reach by a significant amount. Skills gaps can be crossed with the friendship and cameraderie of the forum which is an excellent thing, but actually paying for stuff is an absolute value. So, please, budget your project before you start (it is the reason my project isn't really started yet (but will be this year)). Also you CAN build a very cool ride on a shoe string, just see Rmad's Cressida (particularly in its first guise with the Lotus wheels), but know you've got a shoe string before you start and plan for that.
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I was always guilty of being overambitious financially with projects many years ago, learned my lesson these days and take things much slower and have less vehicles all at once, my Rangey isnt show worthy in anyway and being a Landrover its not even as if its unusally old or anything, but it doens the job for me and the family and i like it, it is being modded gradually and will get paint one day when the matching trailer is finished, but its slow going due to money and health issues.
The RR crowd help keep things moving i think and maybe encourage a lot of less experianced modders to try things with their cars so i reckon there are lot of people modding who maybe wouldn't otherwise, resulting in a higher proportion of slow projects.
Only advice i can really come up with is to pick something thats maybe been done before and put your own spin on it, take it slow, collect all the parts you need first and be carefull with your choices as to where you spend your money, i would have loved a Cossie YB engine in my Cortina, but choosing the 24v Cossie instead saved me oodles, and allowed me to use a whole shed load of much cheaper parts to get it finished and it was still to fast for its one good.
You don't always need the best or most expensive cars/parts to have fun, a cheaper vehicle to build and run will get used more.
Its hard to keep the mojo up sometimes, but keep plugging away, request help on here and things will move along slowly, the differences of opinion and arguments on here can still serve up usefull info and it is a forum after all, its main point is to allow people to air their views.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Mark
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Sept 1, 2009 15:27:39 GMT
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I think for a lot of people projects fail because their aims out strip their financial reach by a significant amount. Skills gaps can be crossed with the friendship and cameraderie of the forum which is an excellent thing, but actually paying for stuff is an absolute value. Excellent point. Budgeting is vital, but also building a car that you can afford and enjoy is important. It's not about willy waving. My philosophy: I buy cars at their correct value, if not less I buy Wheels used I buy tyres new I buy mechanical parts that wear new I buy performance/styling items used ^ Obviously the used part only comes into play as long as I can source them. I was the exact person a few months ago that Hotwire is talking about: Merc W115 - bought, cut out some rust, bought some wheels then left to sit for 6 months Merc W116 - bought months ago. Haven't even looked at it. Mini Clubman - have it for 2 years. Stripped it, haven't looked at since Mini Racer - do the bare minimum to it. The only reason that the W115 got started was that I couldn't be bothered sanding down the Mini. Once I got it started, I enjoyed it greatly. It was done on a shoe string budget, and yes it isn't finished, but I don't reckon it's ready for the scrappage scheme. It came in WAY under budget, so I have enough to give it the finish I want. I can't see myself selling it. Coming back to the original topic, I recently passed up the chance to own my dream car (late 70s Porsche 911 Targa) due to space and the guilt of having so many cars, so I need to do something with my "collection". I think it needs to be more focussed.
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smellyferret
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Sept 1, 2009 15:53:41 GMT
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but it isnt just about shiny really well put together show cars either is it No,.. but you can't have a scene made entirely out almost started projects and cars that "have potential" .. some of it must be realised. I think for a lot of people projects fail because their aims out strip their financial reach by a significant amount. Skills gaps can be crossed with the friendship and cameraderie of the forum which is an excellent thing, but actually paying for stuff is an absolute value. So, please, budget your project before you start (it is the reason my project isn't really started yet (but will be this year)). Also you CAN build a very cool ride on a shoe string, just see Rmad's Cressida (particularly in its first guise with the Lotus wheels), but know you've got a shoe string before you start and plan for that. I like this a lot. It would be really helpful (for me at least!) if there was a section/sticky that could help with pointers to doing this. I'm not talking about "waxoil will cost you £xxx" but "have you thought about waxoil?, have you got the tools?, have you contacted your insurance to see what the mods will cost?" I'm hopefully going to be getting some sort of retro ride soon that I can start modding on a budget and I'm sure there are quite a few people on this forum that warn me about pitfalls before I fall into them! (I've been reading a lot, but for anew memebr like me there is a huge amount to read through and not all the interesting threads are on a level that I could deal with!) (there may even be a section like this... and I've just been blind!) Oh and a good inspiring thread suprisingskoda, I was thinking that I could put together a OK retro-ride, but your right I've got the imagination to make a great one, I just need to make sure thats what I do! Dan
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Sept 1, 2009 16:11:30 GMT
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If you want to build a cheap car, spend more money in the firts place buying something thats not rusty, with coil springs all round if you want to lower it and from a manufacturer that builds many different models and specs with a lot of the same interchangable parts (Ford is the most obvious choice in that respect) if your planning an engine swop. You may end up building something similar to plenty of already built cars, but nothing beats the satisfaction of "finishing" a project and the experiance you gain will help you move on to more ambitious or rarer vehicles. All IMHO of course.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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chaseracer
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Sept 1, 2009 16:18:42 GMT
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Today, I have been mostly... * removing the doors from the Dyane (and taking off what little trim there is) * finding the repair panels bought three years ago * arranging to deliver same to a man with welding skillz * sorting out what is needed to make the gearbox work properly Also, now that the thing is free & clear, looking at the Berlingo with thoughts of paint, alloys and stick. Anyone with any decent 4x108 wheels, please feel free to PM me...
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