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Apr 22, 2009 19:19:08 GMT
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The wife and I are thinking about getting a camper, I have always liked the looks of a CF and theres a nice looking one on Ebay right now. its a 1985 2 litre auto LWB
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Last Edit: Apr 22, 2009 19:28:00 GMT by suterman
1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo |
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Apr 22, 2009 19:26:35 GMT
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That's a CF2 then, with the 1979cc CIH engine from the Opel Ascona/Manta. My ol' man's got SIX  CF's, only one of which has that engine....and for me it's by far the nicest to drive. Biggest problems are rusty wings/wheelarches/steps AFAIK, they are hefty old buses to drive, but I love 'em. Thirsty though, especially with the auto box I should imagine. www.bedford-cf.co.uk/ |
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Apr 22, 2009 20:51:49 GMT
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have a look at my thread in the members rides , its under cf custom van to get an idea of whats expected with a cf. they do rot , spares are numerous except suspension bushes , they are as rare as poor quality wobbly children's play pony curse word. great comunity spirit with cfs , less scene tax than a vw.
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dubzi
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Apr 22, 2009 20:53:10 GMT
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Biggest problem will be rusty *anything*! Also if it's a coachbuilt camper then look out for the wooden frame being rotten where water has got between the aluminium panels. Also watch out for a potential nightmare raft of previous owner modifications  They certainly are big old buses, they're quite noisy due to the engine almost being in the cab and don't have power steering. They're definitely an old skool commercial vehicle. Plenty of spares available still, although new exhausts aren't anymore. Best thing is a stainless system if it's gone. Not scene taxed like VWs but there is only 1 parts specialist. You can get everything from him if you don't want to trawl Ebay but his prices reflect his monopoly. I wouldn't be without mine:  |
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Davenger
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Apr 22, 2009 20:55:42 GMT
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My dad's old CF2 rotted round the step, the bottoms of the doors and the sills
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Apr 22, 2009 21:17:03 GMT
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They were years ahead with the IFS, that having said, only buy it if you like travelling with the engine in the cab. If not, get a transit. www.mk1mk2transit.co.uk |
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Apr 22, 2009 21:26:23 GMT
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They were years ahead with the IFS, that having said, only buy it if you like travelling with the engine in the cab. If not, get a transit. www.mk1mk2transit.co.ukThey are noisy.......my ol' man's '74 CF250 wrecker has a 4:154 Perkins in it and a gearbox which is missing all its synchros, which does 53mph flat out and takes noise to a whole new level. Needless to say I absolutely LOVE driving it.  |
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Apr 22, 2009 21:35:04 GMT
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1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo |
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Apr 22, 2009 21:46:21 GMT
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have a look at my thread in the members rides , its under cf custom van to get an idea of whats expected with a cf. they do rot , spares are numerous except suspension bushes , they are as rare as poor quality wobbly children's play pony curse word. great comunity spirit with cfs , less scene tax than a vw. I can make bushes on my lathe, I have a welder, However, I cant find your thread on here due to the craptacular search engine, please can you give me a link |
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Apr 22, 2009 21:53:39 GMT
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 + 2007 Octavia Vrs estate, 1971 Beetle project, 2004 Shogun Sport |
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Apr 22, 2009 22:12:16 GMT
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My dad converted an old beddford CF Scottish ambulance into a camper back in the 80s, still had it until a few years ago when it got scrapped.
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dubzi
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There's no simple bolt in swap, you can fit anything with a bit of ingenuity though. It will involve a certain amount of modification to engine mounts bulkhead, floors exhaust, possinly propshaft etc. You'll still be limited by the axle ratios though. They're low geared to haul weight about. If you want to get around quickly, it would be more cost effective to buy a different van. Why do you need to though? Mine's a 2.3 slant and it'll do 60 -70 on the motorway which is enough to keep up. It'll keep doing that up hills so it's not like you'll be stuck behind lorries. |
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Hmm, fair enough, I guess you're right, I may be going to see it this weekend  |
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Gray
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Apr 23, 2009 14:38:55 GMT
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Just saw this... buy the CF, you wont regret it ;D Mine has a warmed over 2.3 in it and puts alot of modern stuff to shame, thats using the 4 speed +od box. Fuel economy isnt great but driven sensibly wont make your bank manager weep blood. I have heard a rumour that putting an auto back axle in a manual van gives a significant increase in top end. Anyone know how true is it that chevy smallblocks bolt straight to diesel CF boxs? Excelent vans and worth sorting right with a bit of time and money. Although as mentioned elsewhere all my running gear plus a set of big slotmags may be surplus soon.... |
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Apr 23, 2009 14:42:36 GMT
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I'm sure I read somewhere that Cresta diffs fit the axle?
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Gray
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Apr 23, 2009 14:43:59 GMT
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And just for inspiration......  |
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dubzi
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Apr 23, 2009 15:33:32 GMT
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Cresta diffs do fit some axles, assuming you can find one of those. The van in question is an auto I think, not sure what they're like top speed wise. The manual 4 + Overdrive is probably the best combination to have. I have a ZF 5 speed box but the 5th gear is a crawler 1st gear, top gear is still 1:1 like the 4 speed. The limiting factor with mine is that it feels like needs another gear, the motor's still got more to give. There is a 5 speed with an overdrive that was fitted to some of the CF2s. That can be made to fit a CF1 by using the bellhousing for the gearbox I've got. Not sure how the propshafts match up though. It looks nice but it's quite a bit of money for an old van though so check for rust very carefully. Make sure you look at the cab floor under any carpets/ mats as the screen seals can leak and it rots the floor out. I'd be wary of the fact it's had a repair by the windscreen. See below for what can happen when you start cutting out the rust!  And they do look so right on Slot Mags or Wellers |
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dubzi
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Apr 23, 2009 15:40:05 GMT
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Although as mentioned elsewhere all my running gear plus a set of big slotmags may be surplus soon.... I'd be interested in the gearbox and prop, possibly the Mags if they do come up! I've just spent a load of money getting my cylinder head skimmed and refurned after head gasket failure so not sure on the engine. How warm is it? |
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Apr 23, 2009 15:40:39 GMT
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Its a camper so its pretty much a given that it will cost more than the equivalent panel van, I will check under the carpets, I see a large can of waxoyl in my near future.
How much you want for the slotmags Gray? What condition are the tyres?
ps, I am forming an evil plan to scrap my 240 and fit the engine and gearbox in the bedford, pie in the sky at the moment but 250 ft/lb would make the old bus move along nicely. lol
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Last Edit: Apr 23, 2009 15:42:31 GMT by suterman
1985 Bedford CF2 camper 1991 Volvo 240 Turbo |
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Gray
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Apr 23, 2009 16:12:28 GMT
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The bloke I bought the van off (a very good mate) had just spent out on the lump, had loads of head work done, bottom end balanced etc and a new carb, electronic ignition etc. it made a vast difference but had been in line for twin chokes from a magnum/firenza. I decided against them as I wanted to tour in it and that seemed excessive! Havent given to much thought on the wheels yet, two front tyres are needing replaced but the rears are like new, whoever bought them originaly back in the day never fitted the rears so a polish and they'll be brand new, the fronts were fitted to the rear of a van and left standing so tyres are buggered, I had a couple of the standard wolfrace wheels Murvi fitted on the front until I sold the set CF alloys are like poor quality wobbly children's play pony *^%* Rear axle is good, centre bearing on the driveshaft has a slight rumble and g/box and od are excelent (as is all suspension) When the time to break it arrives i'll give a shout, it'll be happening in the manchester area so fairly central (i have a complicated lifestyle and pop up all over the country) |
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Last Edit: Apr 23, 2009 16:13:40 GMT by Gray
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CF's, only one of which has that engine....and for me it's by far the nicest to drive.
