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Rover 75 Mercdan68
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Jul 11, 2023 18:20:06 GMT
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That car is the later facelift model, I’m not to keen on those ones And as said the one I’ve tried to buy is on 50,000 miles Slow or quick really doesn’t bother me Tbf Thanks for the link though it’s good to gauge prices 👍
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norm75
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Jul 11, 2023 20:45:51 GMT
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That car is the later facelift model, I’m not to keen on those ones And as said the one I’ve tried to buy is on 50,000 miles Slow or quick really doesn’t bother me Tbf Thanks for the link though it’s good to gauge prices 👍 yeh I posted that more as a gauge of price. 2k for a 1.8 with no mot is a bit much imo even if it has 50k miles. In my experience a lower mileage car doesn’t always make it a better car. Have driven some low mileage dogs and some great high mileage cars. V8 was 4.6litre mustang lump not 5 litre btw Glen
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Last Edit: Jul 11, 2023 20:46:52 GMT by norm75
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glenanderson
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Rover 75 glenanderson
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V8 was 4.6litre mustang lump not 5 litre btw Glen I’m oddly disappointed to hear that. All these years I’ve thought it was a 5.0… Still quite fancy one, but only in a half-hearted “if I won the lottery” kind of way. 😀
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Rover 75 ChasR
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That car is the later facelift model, I’m not to keen on those ones And as said the one I’ve tried to buy is on 50,000 miles Slow or quick really doesn’t bother me Tbf Thanks for the link though it’s good to gauge prices 👍 The 2.5s may be a funny one on prices, but the one to buy for any long term value holding, albeit, low in the grand scheme of things. The 2.5s -On early cars, had chocolate cams, where the lobes wore away -Need quite fancy timing tools to time them up right, which if not done right, can come with a power loss, or worse, a bent valve. I can't remember the belt intervals. Every 5 years rings a bell. Ironically, many ZTs/75s came up for sale when the belts needed changing. There are three belts on these from memory, but I could be wrong there.
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Jul 12, 2023 10:27:14 GMT
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Great cars in my opinion. Price depends on many things. You haven't mentioned what model is is/year. Club/classic/connoisseur?
Common MOT issues to look out for are front drop links, front arm rear bushes, brake pipe corrosion, rear suspension arm corrosion etc, spring failure front and rear. Really what ever is common with BMW's as that's kind of what they are loosely based on.
If its the NASP 1.8 K-series, it will be slow with the Jatco auto on it. 1.8 turbo not too bad to be fair. THe K-series gets a lot of stick for head gasket failure. But then it does have EGR's, injector, high pressure fuel pumps etc that plagues the German cars that everyone raves about... A head gasket isn't the end of the world. I do loads of K-series builds and you couldn't get a simpler engine. Regular coolant checks and leaks that are nipped in the bud can prevent most HGF issues. Even then, put back together with the correct parts (I have my own go to list) not cheap ebay garbage and you should have no further issues.
I'm not a massive fan of the M47R BMW diesel version. Yes, good torque etc, but no VNT, lack of 6th gear, injector issues, pump issues etc can far outweigh doing the head gasket on a K. 1.8t K-series is probably the best all round. Diesel if you're doing the mileage to justify the extra mpg. 2.0V6 is a bit limp, 2.5 V6 has some get up anf go but thirsty at the same time.
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I do wonder how bad some of the issues are. I've not had a 75 but I have had other cars, as have friends with similar 'issues'.
As for my take:
-Coil springs ; given these run something similar to an E46 rear axle, granted, they snap for fun at the rear.
-Arms : The upper arms would do well to corrode if they are E46 based, as they are alloy on an E46. There is a chance they differ on the Rover.
-ARB Drop links : IME, this goes for any car. You buy cheap, you buy twice, and not all brands are what they seem ; i.e Meyle are now junk (Our old E61 items lasted 2 years). On a Mk3 Mondeo, we went through 3 pattern links on 1 side to one genuine part, which lasted 280,000 miles ; we were lucky to get 30,000 miles out of the pattern items (which was 3-4 months worth of driving back then). We only changed one on the other side as the garage annoying nicked a seal, and we found out far too late. On subsequent cars, I've either gone genuine, or have used TRW or Lemforder and had a decent life out of them. The other brands IME are too much of a lottery. If I'm flush, I go down the genuine route, which I suppose isn't for everyone, and it won't be for this car.
-The M47 can have issues, yes, but in the E46, I've not heard of them that much. If you have, you do get the impression it's been run on cheap diesel, low on diesel, and generally the owner cares more about a remap than an actual issue. IME, with decent diesel, and servicing, they are quite stout for a modern common rail item, especially when compared to Ford's Puma diesel. I am a little fussy on modern dervs however, in that I run the odd tank of V-Power, almost never put in supermarket diesel as a rule, and since I'm running emissions gubbins still on my 325d (for reasons of taking it to Europe, and staying over etc. (i.e Nurburgring where Brits are very much not loved at the moment)), I never run to below a 1/4 of the tank, apart for the very odd occasion. It's surprising, but understandable to a degree, especially on a cheap car, and now with things getting tough, folks can and do run cars below until they run out of diesel etc. or when servicing them, they don't necessarily prime the diesels right when they restart them
.Alan Howatt on YouTube for example just starts and starts a Mondeo after a fuel filter change with no priming/filling, despite them having no tank lift pump). No way can that be done on a Mk3, unless you want to buy shares in Delphi fuel pumps, since they may as well be made of glass.
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Last Edit: Jul 15, 2023 8:28:45 GMT by ChasR
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norm75
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Strangely I’ve had opposite experience with drop links on the Impreza. It failed back in 2010 for fractured drop link at 66,000mls. Original drop link, wasn’t knocking but when I went in the mot place (a tyre place) the drop link was hanging off after it failed on it. Although wasn’t happy with the mot guy as he kept the car running for an hour inside on the ramp so may have been a suspect tester.
I bought one of the cheapest sets off eBay (10 or 15 quid) and they have been on the car until I changed them late last year as they had started knocking, having done the best part of 110,000mls on them.
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My M47 was fine. It doesn't help that as they start to get to the mileage that they really need to be loved, serviced properly, etc, that is exactly the point at which the cars tend to be 3rd or 4th hand. Owners start to skimp on servicing, or try and be clever and take it to back street places that don't know what they're doing.
And when they do go wrong instead of having the fault repaired that sort of owner then gets bits blanked off or mapped out. To my mind if folk can't afford to service a car properly or repair it when it breaks then they should, be driving something more affordable, not inflictig cheap shortcut-upon-bodge upon the next poor owner which is liable to be the likes of us.
The 75, and the diesel in particular, are often victims of this sort of rampant cheap-skatery from people who would be better off running a Fiesta.
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Rover 75 Mercdan68
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Jul 15, 2023 15:23:38 GMT
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Well I’ve been to my parents today And it seems £2000 is there price So I’ll give that one a miss for now I don’t think it’s going to move for a while !
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vitessetony
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Rover 75 vitessetony
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Jul 15, 2023 16:46:13 GMT
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the V8 ones fitted with Mustang engines? Yep. 5.0 autos. Not that it matters, except for extreme nerd points but it was the Ford 4.6 modular engine that went into the Rover 75/MG ZT. both make a lovely sound and make a relaxing cruiser in the 75 variant.
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Rover 75 Paul H
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Jul 16, 2023 11:13:29 GMT
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With the V8s, am I right in thinking that the MGs were all manuals, and the Rover ones automatic? I have a vague recollection of my uncle wanting to buy an MG V8 estate when they were new, but not doing so as there wasn't the option for an autobox (he didn't want the Rover, as the MG version would have made a nice pairing with his MGA).
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Jul 16, 2023 13:20:29 GMT
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The V8 suited the character or the 75 beautifully, a lovely smooth and relaxed powerplant.
Not so much the ZT. Nothing wrong with it, but less BHP per litre than a Daewoo matiz hardly matched the sporty pretensions of the MG badged cars. The advertising hype of 8 cylinders and a largish capacity glossed over the fact that it was slower than a Focus ST and used nearly twice as much fuel.
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2005 Volvo C70 2.4T Convertible. 40k miles, FVSH, one prior owner. My toy. 2010 Mini JCW Convertible. Wife's toy. 1991 Yamaha FZR600, one of only 20 Kocinski edition models. MINI Cooper S Electric '3' - My daily scoot. Peugeot 2008 HDi120 - Dog van. Polestar 2 - Wife's daily. Dacia Jogger Extreme hybrid dog van replacement ordered, due Jan '24.
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vitessetony
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Rover 75 vitessetony
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Jul 17, 2023 11:56:41 GMT
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With the V8s, am I right in thinking that the MGs were all manuals, and the Rover ones automatic? I have a vague recollection of my uncle wanting to buy an MG V8 estate when they were new, but not doing so as there wasn't the option for an autobox (he didn't want the Rover, as the MG version would have made a nice pairing with his MGA). Yes that's correct, I'm assuming it was because the MG was marketed as the Sporty one and the Rover was the luxurious one. Hence the gearbox choices.
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Jul 17, 2023 12:47:56 GMT
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The V8 suited the character or the 75 beautifully, a lovely smooth and relaxed powerplant. Not so much the ZT. Nothing wrong with it, but less BHP per litre than a Daewoo matiz hardly matched the sporty pretensions of the MG badged cars. The advertising hype of 8 cylinders and a largish capacity glossed over the fact that it was slower than a Focus ST and used nearly twice as much fuel. The zt never really struck me as a performance car. Handled well and quick enough, but not exactly tarmac melting. The zs v6 though. Monster. At least the one we had at work was. Blisteringly quick and handled like it was on rails.
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Jul 17, 2023 14:47:53 GMT
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The OP does says it’s ‘low mileage’ (although that can mean lots of things to lots of people) & that one is 95’000, so not low. Comparing apples & pears really 95k over nearly 20 years, I'd say is pretty low
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Jul 17, 2023 15:06:03 GMT
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The V8 suited the character or the 75 beautifully, a lovely smooth and relaxed powerplant. Not so much the ZT. Nothing wrong with it, but less BHP per litre than a Daewoo matiz hardly matched the sporty pretensions of the MG badged cars. The advertising hype of 8 cylinders and a largish capacity glossed over the fact that it was slower than a Focus ST and used nearly twice as much fuel. The zt never really struck me as a performance car. Handled well and quick enough, but not exactly tarmac melting. The zs v6 though. Monster. At least the one we had at work was. Blisteringly quick and handled like it was on rails. Oh aye, the ZS was my favourite Z car. The ride wasn't the best but the steering was almost supernaturally good and the whole plot very neutral and predictable. The OP does says it’s ‘low mileage’ (although that can mean lots of things to lots of people) & that one is 95’000, so not low. Comparing apples & pears really 95k over nearly 20 years, I'd say is pretty low The average car in the UK survives only a paltry 105,000 before going to the scrappy in the sky. While us retronauts will all have owned cars with biblical mileage, 95k is 9/10ths of the average cars useful life so in absolute terms it's a fair bit. Having said that, I'm personally more interested in condition than mileage and have walked past many lower mileage sheds over the years to buy a higher mileage car with that special patina that comes with being cherished and cared for.
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2023 15:15:33 GMT by BritBrick
2005 Volvo C70 2.4T Convertible. 40k miles, FVSH, one prior owner. My toy. 2010 Mini JCW Convertible. Wife's toy. 1991 Yamaha FZR600, one of only 20 Kocinski edition models. MINI Cooper S Electric '3' - My daily scoot. Peugeot 2008 HDi120 - Dog van. Polestar 2 - Wife's daily. Dacia Jogger Extreme hybrid dog van replacement ordered, due Jan '24.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:22:23 GMT
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Jul 17, 2023 15:56:13 GMT
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The OP does says it’s ‘low mileage’ (although that can mean lots of things to lots of people) & that one is 95’000, so not low. Comparing apples & pears really 95k over nearly 20 years, I'd say is pretty low This was exactly why I made the comment I did. Now I don’t think 95k is low, I think it’s high. This business about ‘oh it’s low for a whatever year car’ don’t cut it for me. If it’s low miles, then it’s low miles, if it ain’t it ain’t, there ain’t no sugar coating it. It’s like the nonsense people put in ads ‘good condition for its age’ wtf does that mean?
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Jul 17, 2023 16:01:36 GMT
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It’s like the nonsense people put in ads ‘good condition for its age’ wtf does that mean? It means its a shed but they're too afraid to out and say it.
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2005 Volvo C70 2.4T Convertible. 40k miles, FVSH, one prior owner. My toy. 2010 Mini JCW Convertible. Wife's toy. 1991 Yamaha FZR600, one of only 20 Kocinski edition models. MINI Cooper S Electric '3' - My daily scoot. Peugeot 2008 HDi120 - Dog van. Polestar 2 - Wife's daily. Dacia Jogger Extreme hybrid dog van replacement ordered, due Jan '24.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:05:04 GMT
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Doom Blue, very aptly named, no doubt 🤦🏼♂️
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