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Dec 24, 2018 20:55:53 GMT
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I'm franky a vw loyalist.
don't touch anythinf after 2003 ish . Anything PD era onward. Just becomes a joke of unshielded, unwrapped, microcore canbus Bullplop.
That said, i run a 2005 vauxhall combo 1.7 as a daily, I'm a courier and put silly miles on it. Its bullet proof!!, Only trouble ive had is steering rack, which is combo/corsa c specific
A corsa /vectra / astra of the same vintage runs the same engine
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Brian Damaged
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Mk 3 Mondeo ST TDCI estate. Loads of toys, loads of space. Great for taking stuff to the tip. Mine is a 56 plate which I've had for 3 years now, mapped to 196 bhp. Cost me £2500. Had 138k with full history when I got it, almost at 198k now and its doing 45-50 mpg round the doors and 55+ on a run, managed to get 59 on holiday to Cornwall where we did around 1500 miles (there and back plus driving around), car loaded up and 2 adults and 2 kids.That wasn't driving like miss daisy either. All its cost me so far is both front wheel bearings, centre and rear exhaust and 2 full sets of tyres. I have had bother with the turbo actuator, but that was a free fix because it just needed 3 wires resoldering. Great car. Or go petrol. I've had this 1800 Duratec-powered Mongdildo since early 2016, when I paid just under a grand for it: I've added 23000m to the 75000 it had on it when I bought it, in that time it's had two services, a pair of front tyres, a set of wiper blades and a battery. That's it. Starts first time, every time and does 35-37mpg knocking about locally, and 45mpg on a run. Great stereo, cruise, heated screen, ice cold aircon. There's nothing to love about it, but equally nothing to dislike. I don't really f**k around with cars any more so this is IDEAL.
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Phil H
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best modern daily for the wife?Phil H
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I think SiC has nailed it - shortly into the noughties cars all got the same - one warning light away from financial ruin. Personally it’s either new, warrantied up to the eyeballs and PCP something and suck up the cost or pre-2000 and actually fixable (generally) without dealer specific programming. If there is a desire for something you’ll find at a Car Supermarket then nothing is “safe” IMHO - they’re all ticking time bombs and let her have which one she likes best. A quick nosey at something like Parker’s or Honest John normally gives their biggest weakness if you fancy playing the mid-life car gamble.
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oilit
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Stop the clock, I want to rewind to these days - it seems it wasn't only the cars that looked more fun ;-)
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oilit
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I agree anything petrol - ignore diesel.
You could get a Leaf - which with that small distance will be more than capable with zero road tax and cheap insurance yet golf like comfort with little to go wrong and no real servicing costs ...
Alternatively something like a Volvo C30 petrol or polo etc are all pretty reliable - just got a c30 for my son in the same type of budget and a polo for my daughter for 1/3 of your budget and all it needed was four tyres and a cambelt change which i did myself.
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Foxy
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Dec 26, 2018 16:17:24 GMT
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Honda CRZ! For sure. Ours has been remarkable. Regularly returns 60+ mpg. Looks great and has been amazingly reliable.
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Last Edit: Dec 26, 2018 16:17:45 GMT by Foxy
I'm the handsome fella with the cheesy white specs or is that the cheesy fella with the handsome white specs?
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Dec 26, 2018 18:07:50 GMT
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A quick nosey at something like Parker’s or Honest John normally gives their biggest weakness if you fancy playing the mid-life car gamble. Agreed, Honest John is excellent for a comprehensive and unbiased review of a car. As mentioned elsewhere on the forum, I was left with the request from Woman for a 7 seater to replace the 2003 Leon (1.8 Petrol) she was running. Must admit the Leon wasn't a bad car, it did everything asked of it. Reliability wise; over roughly 35-40k we had the car -asides a few oil changes- it required a track rod end, a rear spring, 6 tyres and the cable for the inner handle of the drivers door. Rather glad it went as the clutch was beginning to serve notice, and I didn't have much ambition to do it. However, for a £700 car you can't say much bad of it, particularly as it still earned £500 when we sold it. The replacement is a Td5 Discovery which I picked up for £400 from a lad who was otherwise going to break it for scrap threw some time (and a clutch) at it, and off it went. Despite initial reservations she loves it, and I've developed a fondness for it too,as a bonus I find it much more comfortable to drive than the Leon. It's had a few quid thrown at it to deal with a few issues that have popped up, but for the age, the miles it covers, and what I payed for it to start I really can't knock it. Plenty space for the kids and dogs too. It's maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm a big fan of the old bus.
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Dec 26, 2018 18:54:47 GMT
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This is great advice TBH. When people ask me this, I play it safe and choose generally the most reliable. I generally reply with: Small: Honda Jazz, Toyota Yaris, Suzuki Swift, Ford Fiesta Medium: Civic spaceship (diesels seem more reliable than petrols, no dpf on them either) Toyota Auris (petrol, but all dull) Ford Focus MK2 (petrol, generally avoid diesel - especially 1.6TDCi) Ford's won't be the most reliable, however every garage in this country should be able to fix them and cheaply. If going VAG, watch out for early FSI engines. They need to run off super unleaded or they get grumpy. Also complex and expensive to fix. Better off with a diesel. Some had DPF, some didn't. Post 2010 the DPFs regenned much better - e.g. our 2010 A4 TDi is happy to regenerate it's DPF at 20mph in city driving. Mini late MK1 are good, early can have gearbox troubles. Mini MK2 has Peugeot prince engine - avoid. BMW 1-series - generally avoid anything 4cyl. Diesels have cam chain issues (amongst other big issues) that requires engine drop. 6cyl petrols are the pick but are a bit thirsty. A-class - a bit naff at this age+generation and limited engine bay access makes a PIA to fix. Vauxhall's - cheap and a bit nasty. Renault's - post 2008 they upped their game massively. They realised they can't get away with cars crapping themselves if the company was to survive. Petrols a safe bet. Mégane III and Laguna III petrols you get an awful lot for your money. Laguna III uses mostly Nissan petrols and electronics. Peugeot - cheap, ugly curse word. Poor ergonomics. Citroen - cheap as PSA but actually stylish. Petrols mostly the pick. Stuff generally designed late 90s and sold till mid 2000 is really peak reliability. After that the diesels had a lot more emissions curse word strapped on. Petrols went direct injection and suffer the same complexity and expense as diesels. The Germans went DI in a big way first (ok yes Mitsubishi did earlier, but they're not big here). Curve ball, you can get lease 1.0TSI Octavias dirt cheap ATM. Like £150 all in per month with minimal deposit for 2yrs. I run cars 7+ yrs old and I've spent far more than that on running costs and depreciation per month amortised. New car has new tyres+brakes+warranty+2yr servicing, so fixing your monthly expenditure to a known predicable level.
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Dec 31, 2018 14:04:27 GMT
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Just been to look at a 14 plate Dacia Sandero Stepway £5995 at £126 a month. Needs some touch ups on the paint and a parcel shelf asvthats knackered for some reason? Thoughts? Can you haggle on price with a second hand car on finance? These are new to me so don’t know much about them?
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ian65
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Dec 31, 2018 14:14:28 GMT
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steer well clear of any Mini that has the Peugeot engine... they are junk and the repair bills are ££££££££
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oilit
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Dec 31, 2018 15:43:40 GMT
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Dec 31, 2018 20:48:03 GMT
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I know its difficult to see from the photos ,but has the front had a low speed knock? the bonnet, wings and bumper gaps seem to be a bit wayward.
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Dec 31, 2018 21:19:00 GMT
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I’d avoid a Dacia , even there own sales staff call them the rusts from new ! And if financing it you will pay way more than it will ever be worth
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Phil H
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Dec 31, 2018 22:07:41 GMT
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You’d probably get a brand new one (lower spec, granted) for that price with full warranty...
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Thing to remember with something like a Dacia is that they're a low price for a reason. They may be stuffed to the gills with equipment but there's less attention given to quality, materials and finish. Big depreciation too.
My friend bought a brand new Logan about 18 months ago (he should know better). Aside from it being a "New" car, it is an absolute bag of poop. Poor to drive, nasty plasticky interior, slow, and not to mention it's butt ugly. SO many better choices out there.
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Thing to remember with something like a Dacia is that they're a low price for a reason. They may be stuffed to the gills with equipment but there's less attention given to quality, materials and finish. Big depreciation too. My friend bought a brand new Logan about 18 months ago (he should know better). Aside from it being a "New" car, it is an absolute bag of poop. Poor to drive, nasty plasticky interior, slow, and not to mention it's butt ugly. SO many better choices out there. The thing is the missus likes them, she will be paying for it monthly aswell as the up keep. If it lasts us 5 years I see that as it’s been worth it’s money. And if it’s rubbish then I get to have a go at her for her rubbish choice in cars like every car I’ve had lol
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vitessetony
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Like I have mentioned previously I think they are great cars for the money if you are after something 'New' with a warranty. I can offer some first hand actual experience, as my wife has owned a Sandero since 2016 from new, we have had zero trouble with it, It has no rust and I find it very enjoyable to drive. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but it depends on what you are comparing it to doesn't it?
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Mechanically they are basically Renaults and should last as well as any other modern if maintained properly, as for the trim yes its all a bit plasticy but is this is down to personnal prefferance. The price does look a bit high for a 4 year old Dacia though it depends what they are offering for warranty etc.
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Last Edit: Jan 2, 2019 16:39:16 GMT by joem83
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Can’t beat VW Seat Skoda Audi they only come into the garage for services because they don’t break, everyone who works there and their wives drive them, you only really get trouble if you buy a piece of junk that’s never been serviced. My Golf has got 210,000 on it and still drives better that most cars with half the mileage NEVER EVER EVER BUY ANYTHING FRENCH
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