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Jun 18, 2018 20:31:59 GMT
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Had a call from a fellow member in the North who's Jowett Jupiter was the victim of an unfortunate accident - the professionally installed foundation of a 2 post lift that the car happened to be on at the time failed causing the post on one side fall away - in turn depositing the car on it's side - he sent me some pics thinking that the rear wing which is badly damaged may well not be repairable and new ones are simply not available come to that neither are used ones. My clients insurance company will cover the cost of the repair but require an estimate - car was 160 miles North and I deemed it pointless doing a 300 + mile round trip for an estimate I might has well go and collect the car and trailer it back then do the estimate once it was back at the workshop. Insurance companies who cover classics tend to leave it to the owner to recommend a repairer - most modern bodyshops will not touch classics due to parts availability, unknown viability or complexity of the repairs required - add that to the fact that they are geared towards the fast repair of the everyday modern car and the classic repair becomes a obstacle for their workshop. There is damage to the nearside of the car Front wing is turned in at the bottom Rear quarter has some light dents Rear wing is badly damaged Along with damage to rear shroud car is non runner due to the fact that one of the arms on the lift went into the fuel tank Which then promptly drained itself This is a Jupiter SC - quite rare in comparison to the normal Jupiter SA - reason being is that SC models have a boot Where the SA has a load area accessed behind the seat Which in turn gives the SC model a very unique fuel tank around which the car is built So to access the fuel tank - remove the seat, carpet & trim remove the glued on vinyl from the rear firewall / bulkhead then drill out the many pop rivets to remove the panel - along with removing the floor Drill out the many pop rivets that retain the hood upstand Then the many pop rivets that retain the hood tray & shelf Then you can have access to the fuel tank Now out off to a specialist tank repairer I can see a few twilight shifts on the horizon - I want to maintain the progress on Peters Corsair - equally I don't want the Jupiter to be here for months either
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Last Edit: Sept 12, 2018 19:28:31 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 18, 2018 20:36:06 GMT
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Well the night shift is available...😉😁
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Jun 18, 2018 21:08:33 GMT
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The fall has really shifted the passenger side and the passenger space about. Did the client say from what height it fell from?
What a pity.
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Last Edit: Jun 18, 2018 21:10:23 GMT by peteh1969
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Jun 18, 2018 21:40:42 GMT
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How funny, I'd never heard of one of these until Saturday and now here another. I bought a car of a fella who's got one of these in his shed, it was bought by his dad in the 1960s but the engine broke around 2001 and it's been of the road since as he can't find spares for it.
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The fall has really shifted the passenger side and the passenger space about. Did the client say from what height it fell from? What a pity.
It was up in the air and being worked upon so a minimum of 1.5 metre - no doubt that the other lift pillar and arms broke the fall - according to the client everything happened in slow motion and although it's damaged - no one is injured and the car is repairable - just one of them things really
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How funny, I'd never heard of one of these until Saturday and now here another. I bought a car of a fella who's got one of these in his shed, it was bought by his dad in the 1960s but the engine broke around 2001 and it's been of the road since as he can't find spares for it. If you would like to pass on my details to the owner of the Jowett or put him in touch with me (pm me and I will forward contact details) - I can advise him on the spares source - I can also put him in touch with a couple of good engine builders that specialise in that particular model if needs be.
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It is good the car is now in safe hands but how much mission creep is there going to be?
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GJUK
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Looks like that will be quite a bit of work - never seen these before, know nothing of them at all but they look sleek!
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Jun 19, 2018 12:23:53 GMT
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For a fall off a lift I think it's got off lightly - I was expection the entire side to be flattened. Lucky we all know a man who can work magic repairs
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Jun 19, 2018 15:12:11 GMT
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As above its repairable and nobody was hurt is a good thing!! How is your hammer and dolly work sir? I mean of course, are we to see you work the creases out or???
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Jun 19, 2018 18:56:58 GMT
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has a putty repair round the level sender too ?
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keyring
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Jun 19, 2018 19:59:15 GMT
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Main thing is, no one was hurt when it fell. Looks a nice car! Can’t wait to see the repair work begin on it!
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Jun 19, 2018 20:03:11 GMT
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As above its repairable and nobody was hurt is a good thing!! How is your hammer and dolly work sir? I mean of course, are we to see you work the creases out or??? Absolutely - I shall probably have to anneal the alloy on the wing a few times though in order for it remain malleable enough whilst I work it
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Jun 19, 2018 20:04:27 GMT
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has a putty repair round the level sender too ? Yes but that will all get sorted by the tank repairer has he refurb's the tank
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Jun 19, 2018 20:08:04 GMT
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How funny, I'd never heard of one of these until Saturday and now here another. I bought a car of a fella who's got one of these in his shed, it was bought by his dad in the 1960s but the engine broke around 2001 and it's been of the road since as he can't find spares for it. If you would like to pass on my details to the owner of the Jowett or put him in touch with me (pm me and I will forward contact details) - I can advise him on the spares source - I can also put him in touch with a couple of good engine builders that specialise in that particular model if needs be. *cough* Subaru WRX flat four! *cough*
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim 1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started. 1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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Jun 19, 2018 20:47:10 GMT
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If you would like to pass on my details to the owner of the Jowett or put him in touch with me (pm me and I will forward contact details) - I can advise him on the spares source - I can also put him in touch with a couple of good engine builders that specialise in that particular model if needs be. *cough* Subaru WRX flat four! *cough* It may well sound like a good option - but along with the engine conversion you would probably have to do something with the back axle which is unique to the car in order to get anything like a decent drive from the new engine & box - I have little doubt that you would have to chop and mess with the chassis & bulkhead to make the new engine & box fit and then what's the point if you can't stop with non servo assisted drum brakes given that the car now has more power than stopping ability, then you will need to do something about the wheels - they are a virtually unique PCD to Jowett hence you are very limited on the tyre availability - one of our members that races a Jupiter has had some period alloys made but on wider rims to accommodate a wider range of tyres - only £5k for a set of them and that's before the rubber goes on - so after all of that effort how are you rewarded ? - well period looks and a Jupiter that goes a bit quicker than originally intended probably £15k expended that's before you take into account that you have just wiped £15k off the value of the car before you started - a decent Jupiter is £30k ish - but at that money if I want to go quick in a sports car £20k - £30k puts me into a nice used very quick Jag / Porsche / Aston & others
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Last Edit: Jun 19, 2018 20:47:48 GMT by Deleted
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nze12
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Jun 20, 2018 18:49:15 GMT
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Had a call from a fellow member in the North who's Jowett Jupiter was the victim of an unfortunate accident - the professionally installed foundation of a 2 post lift that the car happened to be on at the time failed causing the post on one side fall away - in turn depositing the car on it's side - he sent me some pics thinking that the rear wing which is badly damaged may well not be repairable and new ones are simply not available come to that neither are used ones. My clients insurance company will cover the cost of the repair but require an estimate - car was 160 miles North and I deemed it pointless doing a 300 + mile round trip for an estimate I might has well go and collect the car and trailer it back then do the estimate once it was back at the workshop. Having read your prior threads I see no obstacles ahead! As an owner of a hoist myself, how the heck does a professionally installed hoist setup collapse? Do you have any more details for the sake of "lessons to be learned"?
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1986 BMW E30 refreshed to original spec 1973 BMW E12 520 converting to Motorsport 530 1982 XJS V12 converting to 5 speed manual
Many landscaping projects overriding above!
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum!
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Jun 20, 2018 21:17:58 GMT
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Had a call from a fellow member in the North who's Jowett Jupiter was the victim of an unfortunate accident - the professionally installed foundation of a 2 post lift that the car happened to be on at the time failed causing the post on one side fall away - in turn depositing the car on it's side - he sent me some pics thinking that the rear wing which is badly damaged may well not be repairable and new ones are simply not available come to that neither are used ones. My clients insurance company will cover the cost of the repair but require an estimate - car was 160 miles North and I deemed it pointless doing a 300 + mile round trip for an estimate I might has well go and collect the car and trailer it back then do the estimate once it was back at the workshop. Having read your prior threads I see no obstacles ahead! As an owner of a hoist myself, how the heck does a professionally installed hoist setup collapse? Do you have any more details for the sake of "lessons to be learned"? He had the lift fitted on to two concrete foundations has per the suppliers instructions - the concrete foundations were also professionally installed - it would appear that concrete on one of the foundations has for some reason failed hence the lift post falling to one side
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GJUK
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Jun 20, 2018 22:28:45 GMT
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That is bad - I expect an 'upgrade' to a 4 post lift is going to happen, that or some serious future concrete works. What is the ETA on you fixing this car?
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Jun 20, 2018 22:37:38 GMT
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That is bad - I expect an 'upgrade' to a 4 post lift is going to happen, that or some serious future concrete works. What is the ETA on you fixing this car? 2 - 3 weeks in-between the rest of the work in the workshop
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