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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsMercdan68
@forddan68
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Oct 25, 2017 21:38:35 GMT
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Secondhand car sales people are on my list as well as estate agents and financial advisors . I work in sales ...it’s all based on bull&&it Any sales person that has “team” meetings must admit that? I will admit mine is in the food industry not anything to do with cars, but sales is all the same..get money off the client
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Last Edit: Oct 25, 2017 21:40:41 GMT by Mercdan68
Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Some of the things ive read here - as a car salesman - are an instant NOPE when it comes to dealing with the buyer. If you think that its a massive problem if we've taken the pics while the car wasnt completely dry yet then the chances are i probably don't want to sell it to you anyway. To provide a counter-opinion to that, I would never even take photos of a car until it's dry though. The photos are the absolute primary selling point of the car and have to be right. Taking the extra time and effort here pays dividends later, as does writing a good description. Dealers that don't put effort into their photos (and I'm not implying that's you, this is an abstract thought) irritate me, not as a buyer, but as someone in the same trade seeing them totally miss the mark of what they are supposed to be doing. It makes it look like they just don't care. Secondhand car sales people are on my list as well as estate agents and financial advisors . I work in sales ...it’s all based on bull&&it Any sales person that has “team” meetings must admit that? I will admit mine is in the food industry not anything to do with cars, but sales is all the same..get money off the client It's not always about that. If money is your main goal then sure, maybe then. It's not mine. I fix up/build/sell cool cars and rare parts. If you want to own that coolness, give me some money. If you don't, feel free to look around. I hate pressure sales, and I got out of retail sales as soon as I possibly could, because that's what they wanted me to do, despite my methods working as well or better. I won't ever put pressure on anyone else to buy something. So no, not always the same.
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edessex
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsedessex
@edessex
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Oct 26, 2017 20:27:29 GMT
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I've never got my head around why someone would take a PX. The chances of it being a car you actually want are so slim. So really it's a 'this guy hasn't been able to sell his car, so I'll take it as part payment and then struggle to sell it too, thus taking a loss and getting massive hassle'... Not at all. Well, maybe in some cases, but in the majority of cases someone will be browsing eBay or similar and see a car for sale which they like. They’d much rather part exchange their existing car to save the hassle of taking photos/uploading them/writing out an advert/potentially dealing with time wasters, so they’d rather just go and buy the car that they want and leave their old one as a px, even if it leaves them a few hundred quid out of pocket. That way round I understand, but it's the private seller who accepts a car as part payment that I don't understand. They've sold their car, but have ended up with a car they probably don't want or like, but that owes them money. Considering the extra effort, time wasted, possible other costs like insurance, I feel its only in very rare cases that they end up better off than they would have with a straight sale.
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Oct 26, 2017 20:55:09 GMT
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It depends, when I have been selling some of the more expensive (to me lol) cars, I have been open to a cheap p/x just to save being without a car... But I have always stipulated, German or Japanese only lol
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edessex
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsedessex
@edessex
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As a buyer, if a seller is accepting a PX just so they still have transport, that would set off alarm bells that there must be something wrong with the car they are selling, to risk getting some pile of crud px which they need to get to work.
I can possibly understand if they are selling a big petrol, and asking for an economical diesel as PX.
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Or if they are selling an old retro / classic and asking for a modern daily, prob not an unusual situation on here.
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When I have had cars for sale for over £6k I don't mind taking p/x as it takes ages to sell stuff at that price, but sub £1k stuff sells it's self.
I do quite like a change though.
Maybe I should stop offering p/x in future adverts lol.
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Oct 27, 2017 11:01:57 GMT
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Most of my pet hates have been covered. But one I've noticed around my way recently are weird prices. You would sell a car at £1000 or £995 but I see cars advertised at £992 or £764 etc. You would round it up or down as is the norm. Also when you see dealers take a low mileage car,something mundane or not particularly rare and photograph it in a bright white background and now it's worth twice what it actually is. A low mileage car is nice and I would happily pay the extra within reason but feel these 'boutique' garages take the biscuit. Also when people get their 3 year old to write the advert,it's cute but I'm buying a car not their Lego duplo their selling at the end of your drive. The other one is when they tell you the cam belts just been done 100000 miles ago. I do love the vosa mot history website,it's brought some things to my attention the seller didn't mention. Last year I saw on eBay a mini Mayfair auto that was advertised as low mileage 48 k something like that and never welded. I check on vosa and find that the mileage 5 years previous was 79k and the dropped to 28k the following year. The buyer gets a bit knackered and insists it's genuine as he has all the the old certificates. And it's had all the usual mini welding. Honesty pays in my opinion.
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Curtis
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Oct 27, 2017 11:35:46 GMT
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"Location: Birmingham"
so far, between me and my mates, 100% of cars we've either bought or viewed in and around the Birmingham area have been absolute Dogs. We have vowed between us never to look at a Birmingham car ever again.
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Driving: Shitbox Honda S-MX
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Oct 27, 2017 18:24:02 GMT
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Try living in Oxfordshire ! Every single car for sale that i wanted was in Reading or further ! I went to look at a golf gti up for 2k and it had holes in the size of finger and oil like treacle despite a decent advert .
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Shortcut
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I won't be there when you cross the road, so always use the Green Cross Code.
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Oct 27, 2017 18:55:00 GMT
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While doing research to make sure we sold my partners son's Civic R as well as possible (and avoiding all the pitfalls mentioned here I came a cross a proper NOPE, from someone sellimng another Type R written in proper aggressive language the ad was adamant that the car (which looked fine and had an MOT) was to be broken for parts ONLY, apparently the sellers wife was insisting on this. There were a few offers to buy the whole car, unsurprisingly, all of which were treated very aggressively.with multiple insults to the potential buyers. Weird. And nope at the same time.
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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Oct 27, 2017 20:43:11 GMT
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People that think a chopped up Escort mk1 is still worth a fortune when its all been cut away and whacked on top of a frame made of box section by a illiterate chimp farmer with no engineering skills .
Same for any car that was radically modified back in the day and they are hoping to latch on to the subsequent value rise with what they have left of that model .
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Oct 29, 2017 15:09:09 GMT
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This thread is overdue some photos <insert random car sales photo here>
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Rich
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsRich
@foxmcintyre
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Oct 29, 2017 17:57:10 GMT
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if we are going down that route..
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsMercdan68
@forddan68
Club Retro Rides Member 68
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Oct 30, 2017 19:18:48 GMT
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On another point, always check the dvla mot history My lad has been watching an escort on eBay Fair few miles from us so didn’t want to bid without checking out genuine 34,000 miles Dvla has it 72.000 ten years ago!!
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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2017 19:44:10 GMT by Mercdan68
Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Oct 31, 2017 16:32:29 GMT
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"needs restoration, but once done would be stunning"
Er yeah, same can be said about any car!
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsaccord83
@accord83
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Oct 31, 2017 19:41:53 GMT
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Seeing a block of wood or a brick behind a tyre, handbrake fubarred?
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74 Mk1 Escort 1360, 1971 Vauxhall Victor SL2000 Estate.
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I always move on if an add says "its got go because I have lost my storage" or "I have too many toys and need to downsize my list of projects" and then signs off by saying "would be interested in PXing for a [insert something exotic, demanding, project-based, likely to require storage space here].
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carmad
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leaving for australia next week bargain must sell asap
open to px
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