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So a few people have been asking me to do a build thread for quite a while now. I wish I'd started it earlier, but I guess it had to happen sometime. So, this is the story of how me wanting a cheap car to annoy the neighbours with has turned into a £20k build that shows no sign of slowing down: It all starts with me buying a rather lovely, rather low W140 S320L off our very own purveyor of all things Mercedes, biggerperm. Through my tenure, I spanked a small fortune on it; paint, US spec shiny bits, some beautiful Work Ryvers...so it looked pretty good: And I loved it. So much in fact, that I never drove it. Ever. It was ridiculous, and I missed having something to not really give a sh*t about, that I could hammer and use properly. Enter, stage left, a clean little Mk2 Golf with a totally standard 2.8 VR6 CE2 AAA. Those that know me know my history with red Mk2s, and with the registration being a few digits off "The One That Got Away'" it was like it was meant to be. This is how it looked when I bought it: Pre-90 spec doors, polished D90s, VR6 brakes, coilers, and the loudest exhaust system known to man. Before I bought it, it was already booked in with a friend (Theoc Fabrications in Tewkesbury) for a roll cage. Chuck in a set of stunning kevlar Fabric Racing seats, Securon 4 point harnesses and a Nardi alcantara wheel, and this is how it then looked: And this is how I drove it for the summer. At any sign of sunshine it got hammered into oblivion and driven exactly how it should. As winter approached, I decided that it should come off the road for a spruce. A quick freshen up. Perhaps a bit of head work, some mild cams maybe. That's not what happened...
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Davey
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MOAR!!
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K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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/refrains from comments about doors, bonnets and Ford Kas. *n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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popcorn acquired, bookmark placed.
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Last Edit: Mar 9, 2017 13:59:17 GMT by jifflemon
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village
Part of things
Always carries a toolbox. Because Volkswagen.......
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bookmarked.
Now crack on with an update Bab!!
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"The White Van is strong with this one...."
Chris "Chesney" Allen 1976-2005 RIP
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So, November 2015 came along, and my little red Golf drove into a small workshop in the Cotswolds, blissfully unaware of the fate that awaited it. I'd decided that, as I wanted to run bigger brakes and better suspension, 5 stud and widetrack was the way to go. So on the components went, along with a set of 16x6.5" Beetle steels. If you couldn't guess, I was originally going for the sleeper look. So, off the front end came, to uncover the weird and wonderful bodges that'd been done when the engine was put in by it's original owner. The conversion was generally good, but some of it was "questionable" at best. For the last few weeks of driving, there had been a strange noise coming from the engine. These engines are notorious for timing chain guide wear, so it was assumed it was that. We dutifully whipped the engine out to investigate: To discover what is actually a very solid, if a little untidy shell: So, with engine and gearbox safely removed from the car, it was time to investigate the gremlins: Ah. C*ck. That'll be what was causing the noise then. A whopping great piece of the chain tensioner has come off, luckily wedging itself (somehow) into the chain assembly and keeping it tensioned. Sort of. Ho hum, no harm done. I should mention at this point that we'd done a compression test, and the engine was pretty healthy. 1 and 6 were slightly down on where they should be, but nothing to be concerned about. Off comes the head to investigate bore wear etc. So that was that for the engine. For a bit. I started looking around to decide what to do head wise, and in the mean time, brakes and associated gubbins were sourced. At this point, it's older, church going and generally staid brother joined it. Note the awkward stare. Obviously whilst all this was going on, the boring and uninteresting jobs had to be taken care of. Subframe, engine mount brackets and general dullard parts were removed, blasted and powder coated/painted over the course of a couple of months, all to make sure the bits you'll never see will remain shiny forever and ever. Obviously, being a man child, I'd been having thoughts of all sorts of silly things to do to the engine to make it make silly noises and produce fire. I'm not a huge fan of boost on a car like this, although superchargers can be forgiven sometimes, and am a big believer in the old adage of "There's no replacement for displacement." So guess what comes next...
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Back when I first got into Mk2s, when the term "dubber" (I HATE that word) probably implied that you frequented bath tubs with tradesmen from the local community, I remember reading about a Mk3 running a fairly respectable 3.1 VR6 lump. With research on how to do it fairly thin on the ground, a call went out for help on some Facebook groups. Luckily, I was contacted by a guy who has a stupidly powerful, boosted Mk3. He'd successfully run his 3.1 at circa 6-700bhp for 18 months without issue, and had built a spare bottom end, which he was thinking about getting rid of. Quicker than you can say "that generic Futurama meme featuring Fry," a deal was done, and the bottom end was in the back of my company car. With a spec as long as your arm, it wasn't cheap, but a damn sight better value than building it myself. Forged Mahle pistons, shot peened H-beam rods, billet crank and all sorts of other bits with names I can't remember. And oh my lord did it look good: This meant that a suitably beautiful head would have to be built. Introducing Hungarian engineer extraordinaire, Schubert Leventhe. I've probably spelt that wrong. Sorry. He was tasked with creating the best flowing head possible, complete with +1mm oversized valves, titanium valve springs and Victor Reinz valves. I'd also managed to source a already gutted OBD2 engine manifold, which eliminates flat spots through the rev range. It looked a bit untidy, so things happened to that to make it less...untidy. Cams next. I wasn't willing to remortgage the house to buy Schricks, so i turned to Doughtery Racing. Widely renowned in the US as the best cams you can buy for VR6s (as they're basically Schricks), I managed to get hold of Jim Dougherty himself and ask his advice. Not wishing to go too lairy, it was decided that 272s would be the best compromise with the setup I'd be running. He even made a set up for me, and within a few days they were here. Eat that Demon Tweeks! Annoyingly, I don't think I took any pictures of them out of the engine. But they're cams. Shiny ones. Here they are in situ: One thing I am very aware of with these engines is that they can suffer very badly from oil starvation, especially when hot and out on track. Which this car will be. Lots. With all baffled sumps discontinued, a set of baffles were knocked up and tacked in. With the ever present fear of twatting the sump on something, a rather hefty manganese plate was attached to the bottom of the sump. Having checked valve clearances using the latest cutting edge techniques... ...it was time for assembly. Having seen all manner of chrome engine bays with god knows how many bolt on bits fitted, I wanted to go for something more subtle. Something that would wear well and not be ostentatious. Stain black it is. With carbon. And gold bolts. And polished bits. With uprated oil pump, bigger injectors and lightened flywheel now fitted, it was time to concentrate on some other bits. I'd decided, after spending the GDP of a small country on the engine (which hadn't been run yet), that gauges were needed. For some reason, I thought generic Chinese digital examples would work fine. Well, they look kinda cool I guess... More on that later. After realising that the insanely cool Vabric seats were actually a terrible idea, as you could lose your bodyweight in sweat within an hour and become permanently stuck to them, I bought some very lovely carbon Corbeaus. They actually look better than the Vabrics, and are insanely comfortable. In they went: We needed to stop procrastinating at this point. It was time to fit the engine...
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Davey
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Lovely work, awaiting more.
Also 900th post!
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K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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With the freshly painted gearbox and 4 paddle clutch attached, it was time to get the engine into the car. A few months before, I'd been speaking to the guys from Fifteen52 about them making me a set of forged 16" Tarmacs for this. Obviously that wasn't going to happen, despite my best efforts, but they did come up with another option. I was lucky enough to get my hands on the first set of 16x9" Formula TRs. Originally I was going to go for the 16x8"s and carry on the narrow body, sleeper look, but after seeing the first picture of the 9"s, it was a foregone conclusion... With the help of the guys from Toyo Tires (it's American, don't judge me), a set of 225/45 16 Proxes found their way onto the wheels. Which resulted in this: Yeah, they're...wide. And don't fit. More on that later. With sexy wheels, it became glaringly obvious that the ropey old callipers and discs simply wouldn't cut it. So out came the paint... ...and on went the brakes. Can you tell how easily distracted I am? Back to the engine... Now it was in, it was time to bolt on all the important bits: A must when building a VR6 is a billet crack pipe, as the OE plastic one can't cope with the temperatures generated. This threw up all sorts of interesting Google results, but eventually we found one. Keep reading to see how we overcame the issue of the silly wheels...
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Has anyone else noticed the similarity's in the VR6 engine to the Fiat Fulvia V4 engine that is being built in another thread.
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Last Edit: Mar 15, 2017 10:05:31 GMT by HARDCORE: Remove quotation of entire OP.
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ade36
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Aaannnnnd; bookmarked.
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Davey
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This is burning my work days lovely! Keep it up.
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K11 Micra x3 - Mk3 astra - Seat Marbella - Mk6 Escort estate - B5 Passat - Alfa 156 estate - E36 compact Mk2 MR2 T-bar - E46 328i - Skoda Superb - Fiat seicento - 6n2 Polo - 6n polo 1.6 - Mk1 GS300 EU8 civic type S - MG ZT cdti - R56 MINI Cooper S - Audi A3 8p - Jaguar XF (X250) - FN2 Civic Type R - Mk2 2.0i Ford Focus
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Aaaand...we're back in the room. So, we were faced with the quandary of how to fit 9" wide wheels, without stupid stretched tyres, onto a narrow body car with a full widetrack conversion. Answer? Silly arches. Obviously. Numerous options were explored, including the frankly ludicrously priced and actually not all that great Voomeran option. I would've won all the scene points, but I'm not about that. Eventually stumbled across a (then) little known Austrian outfit called MBL76. Husband and wife team Patrick and Monja are undoubtedly two of the most awesome people I've met, and restored my faith in the "car scene," with how helpful and supportive they were. I'm glad to say that the company has finally picked up the recognition it deserves and it's absolutely flying now. Anyway, arches and a cheeky extended duckbill were ordered, all in finest composite. We were expecting to have to do at least a bit of re-shaping or trimming, but on arrival, the fit was perfect. Like actually, 100% bang on perfect. Front and rear were test fitted, to get an idea of where we were at: Yeah. They're pretty wide. 4.5" wider per corner in fact. Best try a wheel on really... Splumph. Literally perfect. Due to calliper clearance we ended up having to run 12mm spacers up front unfortunately, but they're proper hub centric jobs with the correct sized spigots courtesy of Fifteen52 UK, so I'm not overly worried. Back to the engine I suppose. It was time to wrap the manifold (thankfully that job was left to Hodgy) and bolt all the final shiny bits on: For yet another distraction from the engine, we decided to bolt the extended composite duckbill on, which again fitted [ace ventura] LIKE A GLOVE [/ace ventura]. I'd also managed to acquire a mint set of genuine Ryder bumpers (black strip) to replace the Driver (red strip), along with a 7 slat grille, which I thought I'd give a go. Hmmm. Not really feeling the grille. Love the splitter though! Next up, it was the turn of the back end to receive some loving. Fnar. The Mk3 rear beam had been looking a little tired: It was solid and sound, so we replaced the wheel bearings, and gave it and associated parts a coat of Hammerite: We soon realised that even with the wider beam, it wasn't going to be enough to fill the extended rear arches. So a set of stub axle spacers were knocked up: All refitted and ready to go: The 12mm spacers had arrived, giving us an idea of how the car would sit on the arches for the first time. Ooof... We needed to spot procrastinating and actually get the arches on. Which was a fairly terrifying prospect, as it meant cutting up what is actually an incredibly good shell. Oh well, you can't make an omelette and all that jazz... Perfect. A big sigh of relief was made all round. But we still had to do the rears. This is where it got tricky...
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vitessetony
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Mar 14, 2017 10:32:58 GMT
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Love this build, bookmark from me!
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Mar 14, 2017 14:34:53 GMT
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Glad to see you've popped a thread up, I've seen the car in multiple groups on fb for a while now, looks great!
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Mar 14, 2017 19:58:06 GMT
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Loving this build captainwow, Tip, when wrapping heatwrap soak it in a bucket of water over night and apply wet. it expands so when fitted shrinks and bonds making it tighter,it keeps the dust down so you don't end up covered in the rechid stuff .. Oh and a coat or two of high temp paint seals the fibres and helps retain more heat.. peteh1969. Any chance you could edit your quote and remove the 40 od pictures that have been doubled up???
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Last Edit: Mar 14, 2017 23:25:09 GMT by usedabused
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Mar 14, 2017 20:19:19 GMT
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Great build, bookmarked for progress.
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Thanks for all the comments guys, much appreciated. It's certainly no show car, but it's getting there now. So, onto the rear arches: I wanted no part in this, as I was absolutely terrified of ruining a pretty spot on shell. So it was left to Hodgy to work his magic. Which he definitely did... Neither of us are ones for cutting corners. It had to be done right, especially on this car. So once we'd worked out clearances etc, it was obvious that we'd need to cut away a fair old chunk from the outer skin. This left me understandably nervous, but once I'd seen the work that went into getting it right, I was suitably appeased. If you get chance to have a look in the flesh, do, you'd be hard pushed to see anything had been done. Other than the whopping great arch bolted onto the side, obviously. A friend of mine, who is a master in stainless, kindly knocked up a beautiful inlet pipe. With it's shortened front plate (just for you VIP) exposing the original plate mounting holes, we needed to do something to sort that. With airflow and cooling notoriously "interesting" with small bumper Mk2s, we decided to cut a couple of holes. Obviously they make a massive difference, they're not just cosmetic at all. Honest. With the engine now fully torqued, wires hidden away and everything ready to go, there were no more excuses. I made myself very, very scarce for the dreaded first start and cam burn. It was a tense time, and I had the phone call. "It's sh*t two core plugs." Bug*er. I don't have any pictures of this as I was in Worthersee at the time. But, as always, Hodgy sorted it, and as soon as I got back I went straight to the workshop. Leaks were sorted, minor issues were addressed, and it was running perfectly. And oh my god it looked good: At the time I had a sponsorship/affiliation deal with TireSticker.com, so before the wheels went on I affixed some rather lovely Toyo vinyls to the tyres (note the correct spelling, Americans). With these fitted, it was time to get the car off the axle stands it had lived on for the past 7 months, and onto it's wheels. It looked EXACTLY how I wanted it to. Except... Ar*e. No way that was going to even roll, let alone take the kind of abuse I planned on giving it. Back on the stands you go... Much jiggery pokery and measuring was done, which resulted in... Nothing. It wasn't going to happen. I was genuinely gutted. So a set of 225/40 16 Proxes were dutifully ordered, after much apologising to Toyo after they let me have the original ones for basically nothing. Tyres were fitted, suspension was adjusted, aaannnddd... IT'S OUTSIDE! After probably the most nerve jangling and frustrating drive to a petrol station of my life. But the story doesn't stop here...
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ZXRob
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Love a good Mk2 and a good VR6 and this definitely has both of those! Awesome car man! Looking forward to following this.
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