LambDrover
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Jun 13, 2013 22:57:28 GMT
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Hi gang!
As you may know I love Land Rovers, especially the 200tdi engine variety.
Now I know a Rover 3.5 V8 can fit the MGB GT and has been done many times.
Being a bit of a geek, I know the 3.5 V8 is the Same fitment as the 200tdi as they both fit almost any Land Rover.
So...
Theoretically...
Could I fit my MGB GT with a 200tdi engine out of my Land Rover?
I have been trying to sell my MGB at what I think is a bargain price but have no takers.
I have never been a fan of the standard 1.8 Twincarb so might fit a 200tdi if it's not too serious.
I don't really want to ruin the car with much cutting and welding as it is in very good nick.
It would make a serious Drift car as my 200tdi lump is tuned so It even drifts in 4x4 at times.
Basically what I am saying is
Is it Worth a shot?
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mt2man
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Jun 13, 2013 23:08:34 GMT
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200tdi's are great engines and seeing as the v8 would fit I should imagine the 200tdi would! But they are pretty heavy engines!
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adam73bgt
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Jun 13, 2013 23:25:04 GMT
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Theoretically you could put nearly anything in there!  I suppose the 200tdi fits the LT77 or R380 gearbox? I know the LT77 can be made to fit the MGB but i think there is a bit of cutting involved. Another engine that might work is the Rover L series diesel engine as i believe that has a block that might mate to the existing MGB gearbox |
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Jun 13, 2013 23:33:23 GMT
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BL experimented with an O Series in the MGB so a better option would be the L Series diesel (pre TD4 Freelander / Civic) as the 200TDi is a big and heavy lump. Remember when the 3.0 MGC was made it had to have torsion bar front suspenion to get clearance. If I was going deisel then either the Peugeot 2.0 HDi (used by Ford in the Focus !) or 1.9 VW TDi would be my choice.
Paul H
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Hi, the 200tdi engine is taller than the RV8, and the RV8 had clearance issues in the MGB.
Colin
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If its got to be diesel, i would have thought a perkins prima would have been a better choice
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If its got to be diesel, I would have thought a perkins prima would have been a better choice Perkins Prima is flawed and was replaced by the L Series which is very similar. Paul h |
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skoze
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You could, but i wouldn't! A diesel MGB would be awesome, but i don't think a 200tdi would be right for it. We put one into a Rover P4 and it was quite good, big car, took a lot of the vibration and noise away from it. I think in an MGB it'd be pretty unpleasant to live with! They are damned heavy too.
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Jun 14, 2013 11:49:39 GMT
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Having replaced a clutch on a MGB V8, you will have clearance issue to say the least. The V8 under the bonnet is a tight fit. If you did go for it , then i would defo look at a remodel of the bulkhead and beef up of the front suspension. So long as the 200Tdi is from a rangy or disco , then the turbo is mounted lower down, this might foul the nearside of the engine bay and require a remodel, A defender lump would need bonnet mods. I would love to see the result though if you do do it. I love crazy stuff like this!
If it was me with this idea and the time, i would give it a shot !
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Jun 14, 2013 12:03:30 GMT
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singing from the same hymn sheet, 200tdi is good but its a light utility engine. circa 200kg, and relatively tall. as above their native gearbox is LT77 so compatability good with parts bin raiding.
perkins prima turbo would be my choice
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Jun 14, 2013 12:28:09 GMT
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Diesel-B? DO IT!!  |
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Dez
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Jun 14, 2013 14:27:01 GMT
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It will be too tall. Probably heavy enough to ruin handling too.
A much better choice would be isuzu 1.7td on a mamta/carlton box.
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niwid
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Jun 14, 2013 15:17:33 GMT
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If you do it, side pipes and black smoke must also be present, for strict legal reasons  |
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Last Edit: Jun 14, 2013 15:17:55 GMT by niwid
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sowen
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Jun 14, 2013 16:29:27 GMT
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Why don't you grab a tapemeasure and notepad, go out to both vehicles and take some measurements, surely doing that you'd have a fairly good idea if it would work or not?
It sounds like a good idea, but in my opinion I think it should stay an idea. There are plenty of other engines out there that are more likely to fit, and be a more refined conversion.
At the end of the day you already have most of the bits so it's really up to you, and depends what you really want out of it?
What power/torque is your 200tdi pushing out then?
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LambDrover
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Jun 14, 2013 18:02:36 GMT
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If you do it, side pipes and black smoke must also be present, for strict legal reasons Tim, This would be mandatory! As for my 200tdi power, I'm not sure on BHP as I have never tested. It is currently sat in my Disco-chassis Series 2A. It wheelspins like a curse word in the dry or wet. Grass or Tarmac  |
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Last Edit: Jun 14, 2013 18:04:06 GMT by LambDrover
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Jun 14, 2013 22:34:36 GMT
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I met a bloke last year who had a prima (maestro) diesel in an mgb, it went really well and great on fuel. I got one in the amazon, slightly tuned and it's great. As above....the L series is the next in line, and supposed to be even better. I've not driven one, but if its better, it's got to be the easiest and cheapest upgrade.
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Actually there is a straight bolt in option. The Sherpa came with an, underpowered, 1800cc B Series diesel. In fact the Marina had an option of 1500cc B series diesel for overseas markets. Can't reccomend either though as my mobility scooter is probably faster ! There is always the Ford 1800 diesel and gearbox out of a Sierra. Have a look at - www.kewengineering.co.uk/upgrades4mgs/Engines/diesel_power.htmlPaul H |
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I suppose the 200tdi fits the LT77 or R380 gearbox? I know the LT77 can be made to fit the MGB but i think there is a bit of cutting involved. Another engine that might work is the Rover L series diesel engine as i believe that has a block that might mate to the existing MGB gearbox
