gtste
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Apr 10, 2013 22:11:48 GMT
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With me being sixteen, and unable to get a car. I decided on the next best (and only legal thing for me to ride) thing. So after some eBay searching, I came across this 1973 Puch Maxi. I bought it off eBay for the huge sum of £54.61, and went off to pick it up, with the aid of my father, and his Nissan Micra... (Yes you can fit a moped in the Nissan Micra). The pictures below are the ones off the eBay ad. The ad said the bike had last been used in 1984 (As shown by the tax disc), and had been kept in a barn since then. It is considerably worse in real life, than it looks in the pictures ! So hopefully, over the next few weeks/months, i shall be restoring this to near its original specification, I thought i might as well post it here!. My first Job to do is remove the engine & place it in a bath of diesel to help unseize it. I'm thinking about using electrolytic rust removal on the petrol tank, and all other rusty items hopefully will be fixed with the angle grinder & some sandpaper. A full list of what needs to be done, and will be documented over the next few weeks are : - Engine Un-seize & repair.
- New lights fitted, as both are smashed.
- New front wheel, as i believe the rust to be to excessive to be safe.
- Fix the back wheel as it is currently stuck
- Re-wire all the electronics & Fit my custom build 'stepper motor generator' to allow me to add aftermarket 12 Volt indicators.
- New Brake/throttle cables
- New twist grip (As mine is broken beyond repair)
- New rear rack
- Fix handlebars
- Re paint & De-Rust
- And finally... Get it Taxed & Mot'd
Not the longest list, but certainly an expensive one on my budget! Thanks for looking, I'll update this thread with some new pictures tomorrow, If the sun decides to show itself ! Stephen.
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Apr 10, 2013 22:21:45 GMT
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good luck with the project. i should think that not many 16 yr olds are quite as industrious. (or the ones i know anyway)
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Russ
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Apr 10, 2013 22:37:54 GMT
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Good luck with restoring it, these are brilliant bikes and good fun to ride (especially when bored out to 70cc). Heres one I used to have
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Last Edit: Apr 10, 2013 22:38:31 GMT by Russ
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gtste
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Apr 10, 2013 22:45:27 GMT
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Thanks for the support.
Russ - Did you re spray that ? Where abouts did you get the paint for it? I've been looking and can only find similar ones at silly prices !
Stephen.
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Russ
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I only re-sprayed the rear 'swing arm' bit of the frame, i found Vauxhall flame red is a very good match to the original paint and you can get it from Halfords.
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gtste
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Apr 11, 2013 11:38:30 GMT
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Ah, thanks for that.
I'm hoping to paint it with my gravity gun on the compressor instead of spray cans, so just have to find a place near me to get the paint.
Stephen
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gtste
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Apr 11, 2013 18:34:13 GMT
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Well, I got home today & Decided to strip the Maxi Down & Put the engine in a bath of Diesel to attempt to unseize it in a week or so. Whilst doing so I thought it's a good time to have a look at the bearings in the rear wheel, and to check the rear brakes. It turns out there are quite a few bearings missing, So they'll have to be replaced. My first task was to remove the rear wheel, So I could remove the stubborn seized chain, to get the engine off the bike. The Bolts holding the wheel on were incredibly tight, So I took a piece of box section and put it over my ratchet, to extend it, thus making it easier to put more force on. Once I had the wheel off, I put the frame upside down to allow me to pull the bolts out of the engine and pick it up, instead of the more traditional 'Pull the bolts, and let the engine drop' method I've seen people use. This picture shows the real true state of the Moped ! Have a look at all this mess on the engine ! It looks like there has been water stood in it at one point. Well anyway, Onto the wheel ! When the brake drum was off the wheel, I decided to clean it up with a brass brush. I cleaned the inside, Although I will probably put new brake shoes on it when I replace the wheel bearings. Since it was cold, and I was hungry I decided to put the engine in the bath of diesel, and finish for the night. (Sorry for the bad picture, All of the pictures were took by my phone, and oil & Phone screens don't match very well) Thanks for looking. Stephen
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Last Edit: Apr 12, 2013 0:33:31 GMT by gtste
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Apr 11, 2013 18:55:10 GMT
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When i built mine i used moparts alot... Some realy realy good bits, And amazing service...
Also used ypvs spares on ebay I reccomend both very highly.
Oh and if your going to sort/unseize that engine, Take the time to fit new bearings to the crank and mainshaft. Very worthwhile and realy easy to do.. And get used to taking the clutch cover off alot. Tuning the clutch to get the most out of it gets addictive ;D
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Apr 11, 2013 18:57:19 GMT
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Oh and a cheap 70cc kit, 17mm bing carb and a 50cc standard puch head makes for a very torquey , and high revving engine.. Mine pulled a reliable 60mph ;D
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gtste
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Apr 11, 2013 19:15:17 GMT
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Thanks for the tips ! I'm probably going to replace all the bearings in the engine, I need it to be as reliable as possible. I was thinking of getting a 70CC kit, It all comes down to cost though ! Thanks Stephen.
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If you havnt ridden one already, A 50cc standard engine with no mods is pretty damn slow.. Even a high compression head , better gearing and a cheap larger carb will see a reliable 40mph.. The key is reliable.. Guys on Mopedarmy can get silly speeds out of these. But they go bang every two seconds.. So make sure you don't go to the edge of what the 70cc kit will allow... Or try screaming an engine on old bearings... Remember a 2 stroke produces alot of power high up the RPM's so youll be screaming it alot
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gtste
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Yeah I've been told they're quite slow, I'd like to keep to original style exhaust as I prefer the look, although if I get a spare one I might experiment. Once I get it running, I'll replace all the gaskets, all the cables, the wheel bearings, and the engine bearings. Once I get a bit of spare cash I'll put a 70CC kit on. Theres still allot of work to do on the frame before I even think of getting it running, I'm going to use electrolytic rust removal, by suspending the whole frame in a big tank.
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Apr 12, 2013 16:07:02 GMT
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forde
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Apr 12, 2013 23:07:25 GMT
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maxis rule, i have 4, 2 hardtail and 2 twinshock
yours looks quite rough i would tear it right down completely apart and recondition every part.
ypvspares has set up his own site at ypvspares.co.uk now, cheaper than his ebay shop as no ebay overheads. superfast postage.
check out his site. performance exhausts start at £40 and kits at 60-70 ish but youd want to replace bearings and seals whilst your in there etc. something like a biturbo pipe and a bigger jet would get you near 40 for not much money, or you can derestrict the standard exhaust.
i would suggest joining mopedarmy.com and reading the wiki and fred's guide.
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'15 Royal Enfield Continental GT '95 CZ 125 Type 488 '91 Vespa PX125E '77 Camino, '86 Camino '82 Puch Maxi S '70 Puch Maxi N '80 Maxi S "Sport"
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gtste
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Apr 12, 2013 23:15:35 GMT
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It's extremely rough ! There's rust everywhere, I was grinding some bits today, and cleaning up the rust. Once i get my handlebars off, i will be taking the forks off & Using electrolytic rust removal to clean the frame & Prime it ready for painting. I don't think i'll be putting a performance exhaust on it, I have de-restricted the standard exhaust & i think i will be replacing that, But not for a while, (I'd rather spend on getting the engine working to my standards, before i think about cosmetics & speed upgrades) I've joined moped army & Have read freds guide, i did find it helpful, but i do have a bit of experience with stripping down engines. Thanks for the advice Stephen
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gtste
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Apr 13, 2013 23:56:59 GMT
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A quick update. All i managed to do today, (As soon as i got outside, it started pouring down) was remove the front fender. I intend on removing the forks and stripping the frame down tomorrow or monday, The handlebars are stuck though, So it looks like i'm going to have trouble doing it !
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gtste
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Apr 15, 2013 23:10:07 GMT
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Well after still being unable to get the frame apart, I lubricated it and decided to leave it to soak. So i thought i'd get the fenders ready for electrolysis. I used a bicycle trailer with a tarpaulin as a big bucket to hold them in, With a server power supply providing the 12 Volts at up to 30 Amperes. I put the front fender in first, as it was the rustiest. Has anybody got any ideas on how to paint the fenders, I was thinking of simply using normal primer and then painting it either the same colour as the bike or the original silver. I'm just a bit worried of rocks flicking up, or other debris and scratching the underneath and causing rust. Stephen.
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forde
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primer, paint and lacquer same as any bodywork, but maybe on the inside some hammerite or stonechip or something tough to protect from chips?
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'15 Royal Enfield Continental GT '95 CZ 125 Type 488 '91 Vespa PX125E '77 Camino, '86 Camino '82 Puch Maxi S '70 Puch Maxi N '80 Maxi S "Sport"
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Apr 16, 2013 20:19:04 GMT
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Can you still get the paint over stone chip that they used to use on the lower half of 90's vauxhalls that would be pretty ideal for the inside of them, I really want to see what it comes out like from that bath. What solution are you using? Thanks
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gtste
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Apr 16, 2013 20:52:54 GMT
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I know what you mean. Its like a schultz undercoat, I have a tin of it but will try the normal paint first for aesthetic reasons.
The bath is just a Water & Soda Crystals mixture, Nothing harmful, but if done properly it will remove all of the rust back to bare metal. The best thing about it is its cheap, and doesn't remove any good metal.
I don't think the fender will come out very good, It doesn't look like anything else i've used the method for has done at the moment, But i will be doing the same process to the full frame either tomorrow, or Thursday (Dependant on when i get the stuck handlebars off). I'll make sure to post pictures of that, The best thing about doing the whole frame is that it will remove all fuel tank rust and other rust i can't reach with a wire wheel.
Thanks. Stephen.
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