benzine
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Diesel RWD auto?benzine
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Oct 22, 2012 10:17:29 GMT
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I'm looking for an engine and gearbox and have quite a few requirements. Are there any cars that use the following: diesel 4 cylinder, RWD, automatic gearbox, mechanical injection, preferably can run on veg oil.
I believe there are some mercs (OM604?) that have some of the above but I read they are a swine to run outside of the merc due to electronically controlled gearbox? and they might not run on veg? Then there are older merc engines like the OM601 but they look like they're very hard to get hold of and pricey.
Alternatively are there any engine and box combos that bolt together easily and are relatively easy to obtain? (ebay, scrapyards etc)
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Oct 22, 2012 12:13:40 GMT
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Omega diesel? Dunno if they did auto's, if they didn't would a petrol Omega auto box bolt onto a GM 1.7 diesel?
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Oct 22, 2012 13:20:03 GMT
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Is there any value in looking for an unpopular (thus cheaper) commercial donor vehicle?
While auto would be uncommon in older commercials, it would be a complete drivetrain so there would be no pick'n'mixing with engines and gearboxes.
What about a Taxi?
Both models seem to have auto options.
What's it going in?
If it's a Caterham clone kit car then my somewhat agricultural suggestions will start to seem silly...
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RobinJI
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Oct 22, 2012 13:44:41 GMT
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2.5 TD granada? Not sure if they came as autos but they're the kind of car that you'd expect to.
I'd guess a carlton autobox should bolt up to a 1.7td isuzu lump?
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craig1010cc
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Oct 22, 2012 14:17:51 GMT
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I'd guess a carlton autobox should bolt up to a 1.7td isuzu lump? I think Brice looked into that and there was issues about finding a suitable flywheel/torque converter BMW did a E36 318TDS that you could get an auto on |
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Oct 22, 2012 14:21:17 GMT
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Didn't someone have an auto diesel one on here? I only remember because I was surpsised that they were Peugeot diesels. Not sure about the 'box. |
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10mpg
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Diesel RWD auto?10mpg
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Oct 22, 2012 16:34:38 GMT
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Depends on which shape granada, the early ones had the Pug lump from the 505, usual old slugger, trad diesel, tough and simple but noisy slow and rattly, you could get a bug eye Scorpio with a TD which was the VM lump same as used in Jeep cherokees and classic Range rovers, horrid old thing, best suited to a boat if at all, though you could get an auto (a4lde iirc) not uncommon at all and 'reasonable' power and economy..
I'd look for a Mazda Bongo being broken, tough 2.5 litre 4 pot TD almost always with an autobox slung behind it, find a crashed one, they break well then sell the interior etc and weigh the rest in..
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Last Edit: Oct 22, 2012 16:37:19 GMT by 10mpg
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Oct 22, 2012 16:53:33 GMT
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Land Rover Discovery? Obviously 4x4, but that's only a transfer box hanging off the end of the auto box. The pre-TD5 engines were mechanical.
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I've got Rovers.
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benzine
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Diesel RWD auto?benzine
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Oct 22, 2012 17:21:22 GMT
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Thanks for all the replies, lots to look into! What about a Taxi? Both models seem to have auto options. What's it going in? If it's a Caterham clone kit car then my somewhat agricultural suggestions will start to seem silly... The fairway taxis look interesting. It would be going in my amazon. I was going to use an XUD and mate a RWD autobox but if there's something that'll come as a package or bolt together then it'll save me no end of time. |
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craig1010cc
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Oct 22, 2012 17:47:34 GMT
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Drew in here (datsun drew I think is his user name) fitted the perkins 2.0 td from a montego into his Amazon. Think it was a manual, but might be an auto SD1 or similar set-up that could work?
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Oct 24, 2012 16:05:58 GMT
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Oct 24, 2012 16:22:47 GMT
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its a Bosch pump on a VW lump  |
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RobinJI
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Oct 24, 2012 19:17:09 GMT
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I was going to suggest the Volvo, but they're a 5-pot not 4, so I don't know if the OP would get away with one. Not bad otherwise though.
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Oct 24, 2012 20:01:35 GMT
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BMW 320 Diesel, my brother has a V plate Y2000, they do Auto options.. the early one's are mechanically injected. (His definitely is)
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Oct 25, 2012 13:07:01 GMT
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BMW 320 Diesel, my brother has a V plate Y2000, they do Auto options.. the early one's are mechanically injected. (His definitely is) This is probably a better option than the 318td option mentioned earlier. I never heard great things about the 318tds when they were new. Is this the same diesel plant that they had in Rover 75s? Both E36s and the 75s seem pretty widely available and cheap as complete cars. |
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RobinJI
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Oct 25, 2012 13:22:18 GMT
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75's are common-rail, so no good for veg.
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Oct 27, 2012 19:54:15 GMT
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I have a mechanical pump from a 601 merc engine collecting dust in the garage if you're interested? They are bolt on for the 604's. I could also find you one with 7mm fuel heads installed for a huge power increase if that's what you're into.  Also the older merc boxes should bolt up to the newer engines, at least to the 604-606 serie if you insist on a slushbox. |
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Last Edit: Oct 27, 2012 19:59:32 GMT by dude
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Oct 27, 2012 21:11:14 GMT
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Omega 2.5 TD with autobox. |
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