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Aug 24, 2012 20:29:36 GMT
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ive chopped coils for years...the problems are, the springs don't sit in the cup properly when the suspension is up, so it can literally fall out! ive been bouncing my way around ipswich for 10 years with no probs......but grown up now, got some proper low springs to replace my chopped ones!  |
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Aug 24, 2012 21:26:59 GMT
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yeah ive noticed that on a few cars!like the prob u had, never know why!ive nearly always fitted proper lowering kits, just they aint normally low enough ! lol
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cars: orion 1600 i ghia mk2 orion 2.2 vtec ghia mk1 |
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Aug 24, 2012 21:35:02 GMT
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Are the springs handed?
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rodney
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Aug 24, 2012 21:46:46 GMT
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what car?,.
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Aug 24, 2012 22:10:49 GMT
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I've commuted 200km a day every other week for the last 4 months in a car completely without front springs.
That is all.
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rodney
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aah my speciality , you need a ajustable panard rod on the back , as they push the axle up on one side or just over to the side, pop over to the link below and someone will point you in the direction of a ajustable bar ,. www.xrtwo.com/forum/index.php |
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Aug 25, 2012 10:07:55 GMT
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I've commuted 200km a day every other week for the last 4 months in a car completely without front springs. That is all. you have airbags or a citroen? |
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Aug 25, 2012 11:57:11 GMT
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Airbags are still springs.
It's not the arb's binding in the bushes and/or bent is it? That quite often causes a similar issue.
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Aug 25, 2012 16:40:15 GMT
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I've commuted 200km a day every other week for the last 4 months in a car completely without front springs. That is all. you have airbags or a citroen? no and no, it's a sierra  sadly still nowhere near low enough... Coilovers have been bought, but are still in the trunk waiting for an epic thumb out of  maneuver.  Seeing how high it still is without springs makes you realize how many sierras are driving around sitting on the bumpstops... |
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rodney
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Aug 25, 2012 16:51:19 GMT
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your driving with NO springs in your sierra?? glad you aint in this country coz thats plain curse word stupid,
ive pushed old scrappers around with no srings and even that shows how dangerous that it is with no springs,.
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Aug 25, 2012 17:03:09 GMT
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oh he still has springs, the rubber ones lol
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Aug 25, 2012 17:05:45 GMT
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your driving with NO springs in your sierra?? glad you aint in this country coz thats plain curse word stupid, ive pushed old scrappers around with no srings and even that shows how dangerous that it is with no springs,. Why? There's no spring to come dislodged and cut up the tire and brake hose and absolutely no risk of spring breakage! The ride and handling was a lot better than expected, but still terrible enough to keep you wary of the road at all time, making you a more aware and safer driver! The aforementioned ride quality also help keep the speeds down. Overall a much safer option overall than cutting springs. (yes, i am taking a curse word) |
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Phil62
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Aug 30, 2012 12:25:59 GMT
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Just hope the MOT tester don't spot a cut spring it shouldn't pass
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kevfromwales
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Aug 30, 2012 12:36:28 GMT
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^^paint them  |
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Aug 30, 2012 17:44:20 GMT
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Just hope the MOT tester don't spot a cut spring it shouldn't pass Wrong. The MOT manual makes specific reference to shortened springs. As long as they relocate (if they dislocate at all) when the car is lowered back down, all is good |
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring. |
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Aug 30, 2012 17:57:27 GMT
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I'm not a fan of cut springs but to be honest this car is probably safer after its been done as even ride height has to improve handling characteristics over one the sitting cock eyed.
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1967 DAF 44
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RobinJI
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Aug 30, 2012 19:13:18 GMT
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The only issue I have with this is that a shortened spring has a higher rate than the original, so you've now got a stiffer spring on the lighter side of your car, and a softer one on the heavier side. That said, if it seems to drive ok then it's likely all safe and good, it just could handle better if it was done differently. Personally I think I'd have been looking to modify the passenger side top-mount to drop that side a touch. Or now you've cut the spring I'd be tempted to space down the drivers side top-mount and cut that side to match.
As for cutting springs, I don't see a problem as long as they locate properly and you don't get too much heat in the spring doing it. It does pay to understand the effects of it though (stiffer spring rate, and therefore lesser damping in relation to the spring rate.) Which aren't necessarily bad as long as you know they're going to happen.
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Last Edit: Aug 30, 2012 19:15:32 GMT by RobinJI
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Aug 30, 2012 20:05:44 GMT
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Just hope the MOT tester don't spot a cut spring it shouldn't pass Wrong. The MOT manual makes specific reference to shortened springs. As long as they relocate (if they dislocate at all) when the car is lowered back down, all is good Modified suspension also comes under a fail. My good mot tester told me this last week after passing my springs. Cutting equals modifying, which technically should fail. |
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RobinJI
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Aug 30, 2012 20:24:19 GMT
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Modified suspension also comes under a fail..... No it doesn't, your 'good' MOT tester needs to take another look at the manual. If the modifications significantly weaken the suspension system then they can fail it for them, but otherwise, it's not relevant to the MOT test. As for cut springs and MOT's, there is a reason for failure of an 'incomplete spring', which could be interpreted either way, it's incomplete compared to factory, but it's meant to be like that (as in it was done intentionally) so it could be considered 'complete' I guess. |
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Last Edit: Aug 30, 2012 20:25:02 GMT by RobinJI
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MrSpeedy
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Aug 31, 2012 12:02:46 GMT
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Oh for christ sake, is it time for this 'discussion' again  |
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