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I've managed to juggle finances and it looks like I have enough in place to extend the house - garage with bedroom above. No final plans as yet but it looks like I'll have about 6m x 6m which is a lot more attractive than the shed and the driveway. For the first time I'll be able to plan and get the garage/workshop how I want it and although I've come up with a few ideas was thinking that you lot would be able to throw a few more at me - so far my list is fairly small - decent workbench with a big sink at one end; storage (any suggestions on what sort); a pit and good lighting. Any suggestions welcome as I'm sure you'll come up with some that haven't crossed my mind. Thanks.
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Ignosce mihi cacare necesse est
2012 Fiat Qubo
Sadly currently living a retroless life
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Good heating (nothing worse than fixing your car in an unheated garage in winter)
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Good lighting is a must and heating as already said if you sink a pit strip lights are a good idea around the top half of that.
take extra time to make the floor totally level unexpected spills are bad enough without gravity making at a damn sight worse.
as for storage try commercial salvage firms for steel cupboards/lockers....
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Loads of insulation, more than the building regs minimum, theres no point being cold. If you're going to need good ventilation too + decent sound deadening for keeping the noise down in the rest of the house you really don't want the bedroom stinking of exhaust everytime you move something...
Also think about a cellar for extra storage (pool room/ bar / what ever) underneath - obviously this doesn't work with a pit......
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Granadaman72
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If the garage is integral to the house id consider a good fire door between the garage and the house, well sealed when closed too to prevent smells/fumes etc getting into the living space. Also dependant on what you are planning to do id consider fire protection too, at the very least a couple of decent fire extinguishers. Boring i know but worth considering. 6m x 6m will make a cracking size workshop tho  |
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Jun 15, 2012 10:31:38 GMT
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to add to the suggestion of the door between areas - if possible, double-door. One nice door facing the house, a gap of a couple of feet, then a fire-door to the garage. Add a couple of vents to the space between the doors too, to help disperse smells/vapours Doing this will help cut down noise TREMENDOUSLY, and is only a small bit of extra effort If possible, and within your budget, an overhead gantry with block+tackle would be a dream come true if it were my garage. No big engine crane constantly getting in the way, with almost zero manoeuvrability - instead something that's literally stored above your head, and not in the way, even when lifting a whole body! Imagine replacing a sill on a body, with the whole car lifted up a metre in the air.... |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius! |
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Jun 15, 2012 10:34:32 GMT
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The house is double skin brick with insulation in the cavity so I don't envisage any noise problems but I'll make sure I up the insulation and sound deadening - no plans to have a door into the house so thats ok. I was thinking of including the garage in with the domestic heating - I had to have a new boiler last year and made sure I got one big enough to handle an extension. I hadn't thought of lighting around the pit - I'd considered the other lighting (in a previous life I was a Lighting design engineer) so I'll add the pit lighting in |
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Ignosce mihi cacare necesse est
2012 Fiat Qubo
Sadly currently living a retroless life
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awoo
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Jun 15, 2012 10:56:29 GMT
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a good strong metal vice is always handy on your workbench
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Jun 15, 2012 11:14:41 GMT
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we converted our integral garage to a bedroom for the "teen" and included a rad in there. it was like a sauna when it had all been plastered out and flooring down, lol. twas lovely
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Jun 15, 2012 14:50:25 GMT
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Electrics? Plenty of sockets around the walls, including one near the external/main door in case you do need to work outside.
Do you have or are likely to get a compressor? In which case it might be worth running an 'air main' to allow you to use air tools without too many trailing flexi-pipes.
I seem to remember something about petrol fumes being heavier than air, hence any spill fumes could collect in the pit. I'm not sure how you might vent it, but could be something to look in to...
And another thing is thinking about where the grinder 'splatter' will end up. If you've got open shelves they'll end up covered in metal dust... Not nice!
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Jun 15, 2012 14:59:46 GMT
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Possibly your own fusebox so you don't trip out the house + 16amp connection point for running big electrical stuff - or 3 phase if its already connected. extractor fan to vent the pit, LED lighting around the pit, its bright and hard to damage + its only 12v
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Jun 15, 2012 16:45:53 GMT
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The access door into the house would probably have to be 2hour rated under building regs. as well as self-closing . The ceiling of the garage /workshop would also have to be clad in fireproof plaster board & jointed with fire proof sealant. Worth bearing in mind due to the extra cost. I had to do all that under building regs. & that was over 30 years ago.
Just another thought , I'd use fireproof insulation in the ceiling as well. If it's not a requirement under the regs.
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Last Edit: Jun 15, 2012 16:47:12 GMT by guslopez
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Jun 15, 2012 17:07:25 GMT
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as mention but an extractor fan in the pit, people have gassed themselves under cars
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Jun 15, 2012 18:36:19 GMT
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If there is going to be a bedroom above the garage, make sure exhaust fumes cant get into the bedroom (there was a case of a girl dying from the fumes building up in the bedroom)
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta
2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van
2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Jun 16, 2012 10:16:46 GMT
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HSE state that if you have it pit, you can only use air tools.
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Jun 16, 2012 10:23:34 GMT
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HSE state that if you have it pit, you can only use air tools. did you just make that up? |
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Jun 16, 2012 10:23:57 GMT
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HSE state that if you have it pit, you can only use air tools. rather than 240/110v? wonder why?? |
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Jun 16, 2012 10:57:21 GMT
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I've just had plans passed for an extension like yours, i don't have the plans to hand but from memory, there must be a fire door between the house and garage and i think, to stop fumes and to have a fire barrier to protect the room above, there must be two layers of plasterboard with the joints at right angles. Don't know if soopahfly is correct on the legal side of things, but as fuel vapours are heavier than air ( as well as various welding gasses), they tend to collect in the lowest point of a workshop hence the use of airtools in most workshops, no sparks etc. I know of two mechanics in the 80's that suffered burns down pits, one from smoking ( it was allowed then) and one from a stray spark. If i weren't having a room behind my garage, i would say to put doors at either end to allow extra storage for projects or trailers etc in the rear garden, ( subject to understanding partner). Sounds like an exciting project, hope it goes well for you.
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