ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:14:35 GMT
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So I currently have this beauty sat outside my house, care of Ford Heritage. One of my neighbours clocked it and came over to ask if it was mine. My instant response was "No". I didn't say that because I thought "no, it belongs to Ford" I said that because I'd never own a car like that. I also felt a bit uneasy when people looked, smiled and pointed as I drove it home through Kent. I'll own a minter one day, but it'll be something I put together. I can't think of anything worse than buying a mint car and then parading around in it. I want my car to be a representation of my abilities - I want my car to be something I built, restored or (in the case of the Zodiac) just kept on the road. Could you buy a car that someone else had restored and drive around in it, absorbing all the admiration, or would you only roll in a minter if it was something you had built? Discuss... Chris
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stealthstylz
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Mar 16, 2011 22:18:19 GMT
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Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Nothing wrong with buying a finished car (how could you start the next project if you couldn't sell your finished car?) as long as you don't claim the work to be your own. I think with restored classics it would be fairly easy. I can see why hot rods annoy people as they're always known as the builders car, hence why so many get bought and then have a load of changes made.
What does annoy me is people who put "Built not Bought" stickers on cars that invariably are only dropped and have nice wheels fitted.
Matt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:18:23 GMT
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Interesting thread idea... I'd quite happily buy a minter off someone else, but I couldn't take the praise for it. Just wouldn't sit right in my head. It's definitely more satisfying to drive something you've built though, tenfold, makes the skinned knuckles worth it.
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Davenger
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It's only metal
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Mar 16, 2011 22:19:48 GMT
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With older cars there is always something that needs doing. I'd be quite happy rolling a minter that someone else had done as long as the work was up to scratch. The money I saved on not having to restore it could be spent doing something cool to it
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Mar 16, 2011 22:20:27 GMT
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Yes.. yes I could.
If I had enough disposable income I'd drive my car to Huxley autoservices and throw a small pile of cash at him to build the car I want built. I know I don't have the skills to do it, so I'll spend my time working all hours in order to earn enough money to pay someone else to do the job properly.
I'd not want to buy someone elses finished project, unless it was exactly the sort of thing I wanted... for example I'd buy John's Minor if I could afford it as it is perfect to me.
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ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:22:27 GMT
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Interesting thread idea... I'd quite happily buy a minter off someone else, but I couldn't take the praise for it. Just wouldn't sit right in my head. It's definitely more satisfying to drive something you've built though, tenfold, makes the skinned knuckles worth it. That's the thing. The Zodiac is a shed, but it's my shed and I can account for at least the last decade of its life (remember kids, my brother in law owned it before me). Driving that Capri - much like any of the Heritage cars I've driven - is an odd experience. Chris
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Last Edit: Mar 16, 2011 22:22:55 GMT by ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:26:24 GMT
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Would bother me if car X was built by me, someone else, or desperatly in need of a shed load of work, if someone offered me a drive, id drive it, window down, arm out. (within reason) BUT, driving around in your own work is pure pride, and you cant put a price on that.
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speedy88
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Mar 16, 2011 22:28:18 GMT
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I hate attention which is why I sold a rather nice beach cruiser I had as a teen. Becomes a liability also as you're always worrying that it's going to get scratched/nicked. Cars have shown to be the same and I'm ultimatly proud of my car as it's battered in places but looks nice and I'm proud to have built it to the image I had in my head. People look and stare sometimes but my pride overrides the embarrasment
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ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:30:34 GMT
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Yes.. yes I could. If I had enough disposable income I'd drive my car to Huxley autoservices and throw a small pile of cash at him to build the car I want built. I know I don't have the skills to do it, so I'll spend my time working all hours in order to earn enough money to pay someone else to do the job properly. I'd not want to buy someone elses finished project, unless it was exactly the sort of thing I wanted... for example I'd buy John's Minor if I could afford it as it is perfect to me. A lot of us, myself included, would pay people to build what we want. There's nothing wrong with that, after all that's why such businesses exist. And yes, there is nothing wrong with buying a car that's been built by someone else which happens to meet your criteria. What I'm asking is would it feel right to drive a car that someone else built, knowing that you had skipped over your own expertise to simply reach the finish line? I know I could, given time, restore a Capri to the standard of the one outside my house. I'd never buy one and in that state and enjoy it though, not knowing that it's something I could do. Chris
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Last Edit: Mar 16, 2011 22:32:21 GMT by ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:33:19 GMT
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Small world - I'm driving that around France in the Guild classic rally in May. Thanks for the picture - it's the first I've ever seen of it
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ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:34:26 GMT
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Small world - I'm driving that around France in the Guild classic rally in May. Thanks for the picture - it's the first I've ever seen of it She's a beauty, you'll love it. Chris
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kevfromwales
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Mar 16, 2011 22:37:29 GMT
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just do what I do - never own a car that is anywhere near mint!!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Mar 16, 2011 22:38:14 GMT
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What I'm asking is would it feel right to drive a car that someone else built, knowing that you had skipped over your own expertise to simply reach the finish line? Yeah but what if you don't have the expertise to 'reach the finishing line ' ? Whether you've built the thing yourself or bought it as is , you'd still get a sense of pride owning/driving it - no ?
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Mar 16, 2011 22:48:00 GMT
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I'm half way in between:
If I'm buying something restored and mint I'm VERY happy to buy one that has been done, my skills aren't really upto full on resto's, and if I know the quality of the work is great! Saves time and money.
On the other hand though, if it's something else modification I DO like to do myself. I could buy something that already looks really sweet and still want to modify it, add my touches, change some things because it still wouldn't be PERFECT. Progressive modification is what I go in for.
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The journey of 1000 miles starts with a single coffee.
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ThePollitt
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Mar 16, 2011 22:50:03 GMT
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What I'm asking is would it feel right to drive a car that someone else built, knowing that you had skipped over your own expertise to simply reach the finish line? Yeah but what if you don't have the expertise to 'reach the finishing line ' ? Whether you've built the thing yourself or bought it as is , you'd still get a sense of pride owning/driving it - no ? Sorry, expertise or means. Chris
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md
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Mar 16, 2011 22:50:08 GMT
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i could only roll a minter that wasnt my work if it was too nice a car for me to work on myself - an AC cobra for example.
other than that I live by the rather large sticker I had in the back window of my CRX "Built not Bought"
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crazymonkey
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Mar 16, 2011 22:56:43 GMT
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Ok first things first I know I don't have the expertise to make a minter (I cant weld very well for a start lol). Thing is though as much as Id love an absolute minter made by someone else to drive round in, I think Id be more happy in a car with half finished bodywork, primer and with that not complete feel. I know it sounds crazy but then I could say yep its my car, I'm doing the work on it, all my work. To me the point of driving a mint car is knowing the amount of effort and time you've put into it restoring it to that standard. The fact that you know every bit of work thats gone into it, I think you appreciate it more when you've done the work as the niggles that you notice when you first get it you know you've fixed. A ready made car to me is like a microwave meal. Its all done for you all you have to do is eat/drive but if you make it how you want it, it will always taste / feel better.
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whoever said dogs were man's best friend....obviously never heard of cable ties
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Mar 16, 2011 22:58:34 GMT
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I'd happily buy it. At least then it'd work and I'd actually get to enjoy the vehicle. I don't mind a bit of maintenance but above and beyond that my enjoyment of "retro" soon dwindles.
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Kyle67
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Mar 16, 2011 23:03:09 GMT
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Apart from the Mini, I've built everything I've ever owned. The Min can't be changed from what it is now, that would be sacrilidge. But at least I had to recommission it. The Anglia needs work, the more I look at it the more it needs. But, I'm not going to change the way it is - just put it right. IMO the colour works spot on, the height is right and the engine sounds like a Ford should. All the above I'd never take credit for, even though I'm redoing it. It was someone else's brainchild. The Cortina is getting a full revamp so that'll all be down to me. ;D I don't think I could ever buy something turn key, just wouldn't seem right. I'd either get bored too quick or start picking fault.
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Mar 16, 2011 23:11:49 GMT
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Interesting thread idea... I'd quite happily buy a minter off someone else, but I couldn't take the praise for it. Just wouldn't sit right in my head. It's definitely more satisfying to drive something you've built though, tenfold, makes the skinned knuckles worth it. That's the thing. The Zodiac is a shed, but it's my shed and I can account for at least the last decade of its life (remember kids, my brother in law owned it before me). Driving that Capri - much like any of the Heritage cars I've driven - is an odd experience. Chris I'm in the same boat really. My Dolly should have gone off to China to be turned into coke cans and washing machines. But I'm a sentimental idiot (Semi-mental too in all honesty) with no concept of money... So it's sat outside on axle stands with a mostly bent nose for the last 11 months... With sporadic notions of fixing it... But just like the last time I got it working again, I know that first drive will be awesome. Because my bare hands are responsible for it. Doesn't mean I'd pass up the chance to own a minter that someone else has put the work into... I just wouldn't be as fanatical about it and it'd never truly be 'my car'
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