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Mar 16, 2011 23:16:43 GMT
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I wouldn't mind (and be honest if asked). But it buggs me to not know how stuff has been done, what has been done, how muchfiller hides under the shiny paint - questions like that. It's this, that annoys the heck outa me with my recently purchased W123. It's been touched... That said, I think what I prefer are cars that only I layed my hands on. I wouldn't mind rolling a car that someone else has build. But prefere to do it myself, eventhough that other person might have more and beter skills than me (not hard ). Money is also a point. You might end up with a smaler amount of total money spent (taking into consideration materials and tools etc. - everything you needto finish a car) - but doing it yourself, the money gets spent over a stretch of time, little by little. And not all at one time. That's also very important for me, as I'm not exactely rich ;D Cheers, Jan
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stealthstylz
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Mar 16, 2011 23:37:29 GMT
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If I had a decent amount of money to spend i'd always buy fully restored cars. Imagine how fun it would be to buy concours classics and just do the fun stuff like a big slam/nice wheels/engine swap etc without having to do any restoration work.
Matt
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Mar 16, 2011 23:47:19 GMT
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Happy to buy something nice and just stay on top of servicing, cleaning and repairs.
When I got the TVR it was good condition, I drove it and added close to 50000 miles, its got pretty tatty looking, needed some repairs, I took the engine out and cleaned/painted the chassis etc, now getting tidy again but needs a respray, that's not something I can do myself so will pay someone to do it properly, after doing so much to the car though you do get more attached to it.
It doesn't matter what car I have, I'm always tinkering, fixing or changing bits about it. The MX5 was pretty mint, but standard, I since have fitted turbo, 6 speed box, mapable ECU etc.
The Vitesse on the other hand hadn't moved for 20 years when I got it, that's a much bigger project but no more enjoyable than the other cars.
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Drive TVR Tuscan S, BMW 330d and MX5 Turbo
I run Torquetuning.co.uk an ECU remapping service.
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i would have no problem in buying a minter and driving it about and have done quite a few times BUT i could only do it if said minter was the basis for a new project . i couldn't just keep it as is and take the credit for it being that way it would only be used as a step ahead in a project to save on the effort of having to restore before modding what ever car it was . i enjoy the fabricating side of things but as far as rust repairs go I'd rather a shell that needed very little to begin with. i guess closer to the subject in hand would be no i couldn't buy and drive around in the modded car that somebody else built and take the credit for that build it would have to be my own work or a full restoration of somebody elses creation done by by me for me to feel happy about taking any credit
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Copey
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i am definatly a built not bought kinda guy, i would much rather throw blood, sweat and tears into a car rather than just cash, i get why people would rather buy a minter than build one, i guess its just easier if they have a busy life but would still love a classic to go to shows in. i guess a kinda inbetween of the 2 would be a "cheque book car" someone buys a rough car and throws money at it to get it how they want it, i am not gonna slag this approach, but its not me
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1990 Ford Sierra Sapphire GLSi with 2.0 Zetec 1985 Ford Capri 3.0 (was a 2.0 Laser originally)
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It wouldn't bother me. I don't see it as taking the credit for rebuilding it, but taking the appreciation of just driving around a lovely old car. Specifically in terms of that Capri, there's no reason why I couldn't buy that and just enjoy and let other people admire. There's no reason to feel guilty that it was bought fully restored. I would never say it was 'my build', but then I would never feel obliged to say I didn't build it or even bring the build/resto into conversation. Many people on newer modified forums get this flak especially when the cars are fresh enough not to need restos or welding etc. Just buy someone elses finished car and show it. So what if you didn't build it? It's either a cool car or its not. As long as the owner isn't lying about who built it (which happens) then I think its unfair.
I once tried to pay someone to build my car the way I wanted it. They cocked it up and made a mess of it - so I don't do that any more.
After saying all that - nobody has ever built a car that was perfect to me. So I build my own. One day (THIS YEAR!!) I will finish something. But I wont sell my finished cars. Once done to my tastes and perfected - i wont be able to replace them!
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duncanmartin
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Out of retro ownership
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Mar 17, 2011 11:34:15 GMT
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I would totally hand my Beta over to a garage and get them to do the work if I could afford it. That way I would get to drive it! As it is, it's been sat rusting for ages (5 years in my ownership) and it will take a couple of years minimum for me to get it on the road. It would be more special if I ever get it done myself, but I'd trade that for driving it this summer!
And how do you feel about barn cars that just need a clean up? Who's car is that?
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Mar 17, 2011 11:38:12 GMT
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I'm curse word with spanners. There's no way I could ever perform a top-flight resto job myself. So if I could afford to buy a minter that someone else had put the hours into, I'd roll it with pride.
But that's just me.
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Last Edit: Mar 17, 2011 11:38:49 GMT by dbizzle
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MrSpeedy
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Mar 17, 2011 11:56:44 GMT
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I'd roll in a bought rather than built. I did for a while when the Vitesse looked good BUT, There is NO feeling like driving something you've sweated, cried and bled all over. Something you've created or re-created. I get an immense feeling of pride when recieving good comments about any of my motors. However, I do appreciate that not everyone who has a love of cars also possess the skills to build, maintain etc a car so have no option but to buy one in order to enjoy one. And if they're open about it then fair play to them.
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Mar 17, 2011 12:17:23 GMT
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Nothing beats the emotional attachment you form with a car doing everything yourself, getting it just the way you want it. I'd buy a standard minter, but modifications are personal and what makes the car your own. Even if you don't do it yourself, stuff that is commissioned by you or has a story behind it as part of your ownership, then it all sort of adds up to more than its physical worth.. The paint on my Volvo was partly me but I had masses of help, the one sided flames done by Ian on your Zodiac. Stuff like that A pre modified car with nothing done to make it my own would leave me sort of cold.
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring.
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prey
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Mar 17, 2011 13:04:12 GMT
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I don't think it matters either way - whether you buy a shed or a minter there's always going to be stuff to do to it to make it your own afterwards. Personally I enjoy doing/learning the jobs as much as the end result.
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Mar 17, 2011 13:18:17 GMT
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No question for me! I'd splash the cash happily on a minter if I had it - whether someone else had restored it or not. I wouldn't be so lame to take the credit - that's just a bit weird, really.
As well as mechanical ability, or lack of, there's another good reason why I'd buy if I could - time. A) I haven't got any and B) I'm not that fussed about it's all my own work so why would I waste time trying to get a car roadworthy when I could be driving it instead?
And yeah, I know about keeping things and making them your own- that's why I have a car in the garage that's not far off the road and has done less than 100 miles in seven years... Given the choice between the two though, I'd much rather have a turn-key minter.
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Lawsy
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Mar 17, 2011 13:19:44 GMT
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Yes.. yes I could. If I had enough disposable income I'd drive my car to Huxley autoservices and throw a small pile of cash at him to build the car I want built. I know I don't have the skills to do it, so I'll spend my time working all hours in order to earn enough money to pay someone else to do the job properly. I'd not want to buy someone elses finished project, unless it was exactly the sort of thing I wanted... . I pretty much agree with that.. Understand wher eyou coming for Chris too Personally, I don't have the skills to get to the finished point, but rather than rush out and buy someones elses finished article, I would rather buy soemthing that needed work doing then work harder so i can pay for it to be done myself or learn to get it done myself as we most on here would prefer modified over standard, then buying someone elses finished article, would probably mean tweaking ti anyway so to answer your question, yes i could buy someone elses project, (normally cheaper than doing it yourself too) and would be happy taking the smiles/comments that it brought.. But then I would probably want to personalise it myself, even it only meant something like wheels or ride height/stance etc
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Mar 17, 2011 13:49:48 GMT
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I'd quite happily pay some one else to build a car for me if i could, not sure about buying a minter and leaving it alone though, cant think of a car that i wouldnt want changing in some way.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Mar 17, 2011 13:58:18 GMT
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Being a student I cannot possibly come close to being able to afford a mint example of pretty much any of the cars I'd wish to own so it's not a problem to worry about. It's also the reason why I've a half stripped mk2 corty estate sat in my garage lol.
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Ether
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Mar 17, 2011 15:13:47 GMT
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I've broken that one. And the Ferguson 4x4 (split radiator hose), Zephyr 6 (blew a head gasket), Escort Mexico (exhaust fell off), Zodiac Rag (brakes failed) and possibly their MkII Cortina.
Ivan once claimed I was responsible for 70% of his workload.
Anyway, yep, I could roll around in something someone else restored. I love driving old cars far more than I do fixing them. Doesn't make me any less of an enthusiast.
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MWF
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Mar 17, 2011 15:38:34 GMT
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I just like cars really.
Not out to prove anything with them, just to enjoy them.
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10mpg
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Mar 17, 2011 15:55:38 GMT
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Yep totally, absolutely I wouldnt take credit for someone elses work, but I'd rather everyone of my cars was a minter and if it was someone elses work that got it that way, I couldnt care less..
don't get me wrong I'm personal and sentimental about my cars but I'd rather every single one arrived as minter and my effort was put into using and maintaining it, restoring things for the sake of it is a mugs game, (speaking as a 'professional' car restorer!) it costs more takes longer and ultimatly by the time you've finished your sick of the sight of it imho!
tbh, if you are the kind of person like some of us are (nightmares/oldbus ect to name a few) who has the money time focus and resources to get out there and turn a scrap value rotter into a show winning specimin in a year flat then I see the point, but most of us spend years chasing an impossible dream 'it will get done one day' when i don't have to worry about kids/work/mortgage/family/weddings/uni ect ect and before you know it a decade has past and you still havnt finished the car you started..
That's why I just sold all my cars and bought the TVR and just kept the one project (the one that a 19 year old started) who is now near as makes no difference 30...
One nice car to play with that needs nothing to enjoy one daily and one project..
and that's how it will stay
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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bryn
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Mar 17, 2011 16:08:51 GMT
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I just like cars really. Not out to prove anything with them, just to enjoy them. ^This and what Matt said above too, I have done both. I bought the Land Rover hot rod thing, I built my beach buggy and others. Neither has an increased pleasure for me over the other, both have their merits... I have nothing to prove, which I think helps I think we're crediting the public at large here with far more knowledge than they have. Somebody seeing that Capri driving down the road will maybe glance and sub consciously smile, 99% won't even notice. Those that do think it's a nice car, know what it is and understand what's involved with it will more than likely not give a dot either way, they'll be too busy remembering getting off with somebody in the back seat/getting a lift home from school/cleaning Dads on a Sunday etc. Remember Chris, you're not driving around telling people you built/restored/modified it, just smile and enjoy the ride ;D
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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dazcapri
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Mar 17, 2011 16:20:12 GMT
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mate of mine bought a mint cortina cos he didn't want to do the work ended up doing it anyway as it was full of filler so i'd buy a minter only if I knew it's history wouldn't take the credit for it though
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Mk3 Capri LS
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